Discuss Colossians 1 Page 2

  • Duncan - 8 months ago
    Hi,

    There was a question posted few weeks, regarding The Gift of The Holy Spirit.

    Part 1

    -I believe Jesus Christ is the son of the Living God and He died on the Cross for my sins, and He was buried and rose on the third Day and He is sited at the right hand of the father, and He is our high priest according to the order of Melchizedek.

    -Brethren bear this in mind that God is the same and He does not change.

    As it is written Malachi 3:6, kjv

    For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

    -As God spoke by the prophets in time past in these days, these last hours ( John 1:18) He speaks to us by His beloved son in whom we have been qualified to be saints in the inheritance in the light by His blood at the cross By repentance. ( Colossians 1:12-14,KJV)

    -And if you have repented at the cross and received salvation which is by grace and faith alone none of any of our works then we receive gifts according to His will which He gives for the edifying of the ministry (body of Christ For He is the Head of the Church Colossians 1:18, KJV.)

    As it written in Ephesians 4:7-8, KJV

    7.But unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ.

    -And in time past ( Hebrews 1:1, KJV) They the prophets healed the sick, raised the dead and provided provisions and all according to the will of God and not mans will.

    -Therefore, we serve the same Living God who has been in the beginning and Does not Change and Was manifest unto us as a child, but He was there from the begging as a Son given unto us as a Son Mighty God, everlasting Father. (Isiah 6:9 KJV)

    As it is written in 1 timothy 3:16, KJV.

    And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

    Part 2 next.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 8 months ago
    S Spencer,

    Part four,

    2 Peter 2:20. They had the knowledge of the Lord and Savior; they were saved and had escaped the pollutions/sins of the world. Can we escape sin outside of Christ? They choose to go back to a life of habitual, intentional, and willful sin. And their punishment will be worse, Luke 12:47-48.

    Galatians 6:9 This to me is obedience, It says unless we faint, to me that is to give up, quit, intentionally turn away, we reap life everlasting. Colossians 1:23 "If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel". If we continue that is a choice, we must make that is not given that is our obedience.

    Jude 1:21 We are to keep ourselves, the Holy Spirit helps us, but this is something we do and if we do, He will keep us from falling. 2 Peter 1:10 If we do, it is not done for us, we have been given but it is up to us to obey and do, if they have forgotten they had to know it to forget it. If We Do!!! we shall never fall. Hebrews 6:13-16 What Abraham did, in his faith, he waited for a long time he endured. He did not faint or grow weary or turn his back to God, the evidence of his faith, just like when he drew back the knife.

    This is not about a Christian who is struggling and battling sin regardless of how long they struggle they are still in the race and if they repent and return in the light will be forgiven and in the grace of God. As David said restore unto me the joy of thy salvation, Psalms 51:12. We all are in a battle with our flesh and sin daily. We can lose the joy of salvation and if we come under repentance, we will still be in God's grace but without repentance, we will be cut off.

    See part 5.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 9 months ago
    Ronald.

    Part 6.

    This section I will attempt to address those scriptures you presented suggesting one can lose his Salvation.

    Hebrews 3:12-13.

    Verse 12) Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.

    Well, if there is an evil heart of unbelief, and deceitfulness of sin. THEN YOU ARE NOT SAVED!

    1 John 1:7.

    Ronald, I don't grasp you here. This is not a verse saying you can lose Salvation.

    "But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, if we are in the light we are saved. If we are not in the light, we are not saved.

    2 Peter 2:20.

    Look at 2 Peter 2:22. These are dogs, NOT SONS! This is the same group described in the previous verses!

    Take it from 2 Peter 2:9-20 to get the context.

    Galatians 6:9.

    Christians will go before the judgement seat of Christ to give an account for the things done in the flesh.

    We are to keep sowing and in due season we will reap. this is the fruit of their labor.

    He that soweth to the Spirit, sows to the spirit by the power of the Holyspirit.

    Paul has just asked the Galatian Christians to be convinced, once again, that trusting their flesh in this life will only lead to corruption. Reliance on our own power only leads to death. That is true whether we trust human effort to save us by following the rituals and sacraments of the law, or by following our own selfish, sinful desires.

    Salvation comes only by "planting" the Spirit. Through faith in Christ for the forgiveness of our sin.

    God gives to us His own Spirit. Only that Spirit will deliver eternal life in the end.

    Colossians 1:23.

    Verses 21-22 states we have been reconciled In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:

    Jude 1:24. says "Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,

    So, those who is moved away from the faith was never saved.

    See Part 7.
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 9 months ago
    Brother Richard:

    Christ has already come the second time, as a thief in the night, you don't see the thief?

    Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was once offered for the SINS of many, and to those who look for him he shall APPEAR THE SECOND TIME without SIN unto SALVATION.

    John 16:7 For I tell you the truth, it is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter WILL NOT COME unto you, but if I depart, I will sent him to you.

    John 15:26 ....but when the Comforter IS COME ....... even the SPIRIT of TRUTH ..... he will testify of me ......

    Colossians 1:27 ..... this mystery ..... Christ ON YOU ......

    God Bless YOU!
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 9 months ago
    Brother Giannis:

    Galatians 2:20 I AM CRUCIFIED with Christ .......

    I BELIEVE God's word, I'm DEAD.

    ..... nevertheless I LIVE ...... yet NOT I, BUT CHRIST .......

    Psalms 1:2 ... his delight is the LAW of the Lord .....

    Romans 8:2 For the LAW of the SPIRIT OF LIFE in Christ ......

    John 14:6 .... I am the LIFE ......

    Ephesians 4:4 ..... ONE body ...... ONE Spirit .....

    1 Corinthians 15:38 ... to every SEED ..... his (Christ's) own BODY .....

    1 Corinthians 12:27 NOW ye are the BODY of Christ .....

    Colossians 1:27 .... this mystery ..... Christ in you ....

    Ezekiel 36:27 And I WILL CAUSE you to walk in my statutes, and keep my judgements and DO THEM.

    I'm DEAD, dead men CANNOT sin.

    God Bless YOU!
  • Jordyn - 9 months ago
    OSAS

    What is one SAVED from?

    DEATH

    You cannot be saved from DEATH until God sends his angles to HARVEST the SEED.

    ONLY mature SEED are harvested, immature SEED are scattered to the wind as is chaff.

    Fruit produces SEED, the fruit never look like the SEED, the SEED always looks like the SEED that was planted.

    Luke 11:8 Now the PARABLE is this: the SEED is the word of God.

    John 1:14 ..... and the word (SEED) was made flesh.

    Hebrews 9:28 So Christ (the SEED) was once offered for the sins of many; and unto them that look for him (TRUTH, Christ is truth) he (the SEED) shall APPEAR the SECOND TIME.

    Matthew 24:30 Then SHALL APPEAR the sign (the image oft he SEED) of the son of man in heaven (IN YOU).... the son of man COMING in the CLOUDS of heaven (IN YOU).

    Colossians 1:27 .... this mystery ..... Christ in YOU ......

    Matthew 12:28 But if I CAST OUT DEVILS by the Spirit (TRUTH) of God; then the Kingdom of God has COME TO YOU.

    God Bless YOU!
  • Jordyn - In Reply on Matthew 10 - 9 months ago
    Brother richard:

    you quoted:

    matthew 10:23 .... ye (those 12 disciples) shall not have gone over the cities of israel, til the son of man be come.

    christ came the second time when god raised him from the dead, we became joint-heirs, we are the body of christ.

    christ came; the second time, in the clouds of heaven, the new creation.

    colossians 1:27 .... this mystery ...... christ in you .......

    john 17:22 and the glory that thou has give me, i have given them, that they may be one, as we are one.

    the gospel is believing what god has done for man.

    psalms 107:8 o that man would praise the god of his goodness, and for his wonderful works to the children of man.

    god bless you!
  • Richard H Priday on Revelation 1 - 9 months ago
    Further insights to Revelation 1

    Verse one states:

    The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

    This verse shows much like Matthew 24:36 that some things apparently are still appropriated by the Father; at least in regard to the timing of events in the future and the day and hour they begin. Admittedly; this is a mystery as Christ is fully God and fully man but we can learn the Godhead and how the Son does nothing apart from the Father here at the very least ( John 5:19). Indeed that verse says the Son can do NOTHING of Himself; which could have been particularly true during His earthly ministry.

    Nonetheless we see that death could not overcome Him ( Acts 2:24). God exalted Him as High Priest and King and gave Him all authority in heaven and earth positionally ( Matt. 28:18); restoring the position which He no doubt had since He was the One who created all things ( Colossians 1:16).

    verse 3 states Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand. It reminds us of the verse in Revelation 22:12 where He states that He comes quickly; and the delay of the church age can be seen in the verse Habakkuk 2:3 where it says although it tarries wait for it and the original language shows that it will surely come in its time and not delay. There is a crown; in fact for those who patiently wait for it; we are warned against losing our crown in Revelation 3:10. See also 2 Timothy 4:8 and Malachi 3:16.

    The subsequent chapters show what happens when one casts aside their first love (with the Ephesian church); and other churches as to false doctrines. Since only God knows when the Rapture and subsequent Tribulation begins; any attempt for Satan to bring it forth sooner will fail so many will not believe it when it truly comes.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 10 months ago
    Hi Jema,

    I'm with you, I believe the Bible is the inspired word of God given to us. A reason we differ, preconceived ideas are obstacles to the truth. We all grow up in cultures where we inherit certain biased beliefs, values, and attitudes from our parents, teachers, religious affiliation, peer groups, and friends. When we study the Bible unless we can clear these obstacles, and beliefs when we read our sub-conscience mind will block the true meaning with the ones we have stored in our mind.

    We must empty our minds as we know nothing, take out the garbage, pray, and let the Spirit of Truth show us the true meaning of what we are studying. We must keep in mind we get milk first and then meat and it can be years between.

    I also believe in one God and Father of all, who is the God and Father of Jesus, the Son of God, the Messiah/Christ.

    John 20:17 Romans 15:6 2 Corinthians 1:3 2 Corinthians 11:31 Ephesians 1:3 Ephesians 1:17 Ephesians 5:20 Colossians 1:3 1 Peter 1:3 1 Corinthians 8:6.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Jordyn - In Reply - 10 months ago
    Jema:

    Recognizing that God is generous to you is acknowledging God and his presensence in you: YOUR HIS BODY. His word says he causes you to do his pleasure; therefore, you are not acting irresponsible with his generosity, but are acting according to his will.

    Philippians 2:13 For it is God that WORKETH in you, both TO WILL and TO DO of his good pleasure.

    Ezekiel 36:27 And I WILL put my spirit IN YOU and CAUSE you to walk in my statutes and ye shall keep my JUDGEMENTS and DO THEM.

    Colossians 1:27 .....THIS MYSTERY ..... CHRIST IN YOU ......

    You DIED with Christ on the cross, ONLY Christ arose; and you as a joint heir, with Christ of that resurrection, A NEW CREATION.

    Luke 20:36 Neither can they (YOU, Jema) DIE anymore, for they (YOU, Jema) are equal unto the angels, and are the children of God, being the CHILDREN (YOU, Jema) of the RESURRECTION.

    Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he (YOU, Jema) that hath part in the FIRST (you and Christ) RESURRECTION ......

    1 John 3:9 Whosoever is BORN of God (TRUTH) CANNOT COMMIT SIN; for his seed (the anointing) remaineth in him, and he cannot sin because he is born of God (TRUTH).

    The wages of sin is DEATH: you DIED on the cross, the life IN YOU is CHRIST, your the BODY of CHRIST.

    BELIEVE, Christ is CAUSING you to do HIS WILL, for his good pleasure, you ARE NOT irresponsible, but walking in the WILL of God.

    God Bless you
  • Chris - In Reply - 10 months ago
    Page 2.

    Then what about Abraham? Abraham was dead & buried, how could he being dead rejoice to see Jesus' Day, this is the Day of Jesus' Coming? This wasn't a situation of (the Genesis) Abraham knowing about Jesus & waiting patiently with joy, for Jesus' Sacrifice & Redemption. This dialogue with the Jews was to show that Abraham was alive in Hades all this time, but NOW rejoicing to see the Messiah finally come (in Jesus' Day) Who would give full atonement to him & all others waiting in hope.

    Yes, Abraham, as those many others, 'who looked for a heavenly city', expected it (in faith) & died (in faith), "not having received the promises, but seeing them afar off" ( Hebrews 11:13,16). Their faith/faithfulness to God was vibrant even to this point in their death & confinement in Hades, but until the Atonement was completed at Calvary, they remained in limbo, waiting, in expectation of the promised eternal rest that awaited them, to have Christ's Blood applied to them as well.

    Now the Gospel was complete for them (what they once knew imperfectly); the eternal Rest they longed for was now realized in Christ Jesus, in Whose Blood there is Peace with God ( Colossians 1:20) & eternal Rest in Christ ( Hebrews 4:9). GBU.
  • Jesse - 10 months ago
    INTRODUCTION TO PHILEMON (Part 2):

    III. THE HISTORY OF COLOSSAE:

    Colossae was a city of Phrygia, in the Roman province of Asia. It was about 90 miles east of Ephesus. Colossae was in the Lycus Valley along with Laodicea and Hierapolis. The population of Colossae was mostly Gentile but had a large number of Jewish population.

    The church at Colossae began during Paul's three-year ministry at Ephesus (Acts Chapter 19). Paul didn't start the church in Colossae, but he spent three years in Ephesus. And you can see why. There was a tremendous amount of ministry going on there. During this three-year period, a man by the name of Epaphras was saved while visiting Ephesus.

    The Church at Colossae was established by Epaphras, not Paul ( Colossians 1:5-7). So Epaphras came from Colossae into Ephesus, met Paul, heard him preach, and received Christ. Epaphras goes back to Colossae, and he establishes the church there, not Paul.

    Several years after the Colossians church was founded, dangerous heresies began to circulate in it. Epaphras was so concerned about these heresies that he made the long journey from Colossae to Rome were Paul was a prisoner ( Colossians 4:12-13).

    IV. THE THEME OF PHILEMON:

    The portrayal of the Gospel expressed between Paul and Philemon over Philemon's slave Onesimus.

    V. DELIVERED BY:

    Philemon was delivered with Colossians and Ephesians by Tychicus who was accompanied by Onesimus ( Ephesians 6:21-22; Colossians 4:7-8). Epaphras remained behind in Rome ( Philemon 23). So Epaphras was there with Paul. He didn't go back with the letters. He stayed with Paul. Very interesting!
  • Jesse - 10 months ago
    INTRODUCTION TO 2 TIMOTHY (Part 3):

    And so, Timothy was considered Jewish. And in case some of the Hebrew and Jewish people would hear that he's Jewish as he's traveling and wanted to corner him and pin him down as to whether he's been circumcised, and whether he's been through the synagogue ceremonies, Paul had him circumcised so that he would be free to preach the gospel in the synagogues.

    Timothy was ordained by Paul and the Presbytery ( I Timothy 4:14; II Timothy 1:6).

    He accompanies Paul on his third missionary trip ( Acts 19:22; Acts 20:4; II Corinthians 1:1, 19).

    Timothy ministered in at least five churches as Paul's representative. He sent Timothy to:

    1) Thessalonica ( I Thessalonians 3:2, 6).

    2) Corinth ( I Corinthians 4:17; 16:10; II Corinthians 1:19).

    3) Philippi ( Philippians 2:19-23).

    4) Berea ( Acts 17:14).

    5) Ephesus ( I Timothy 1:3).

    Timothy was with Paul during Paul's first imprisonment ( Philippians 1:1; Colossians 1:1; Philemon 1:1) and went to Philippi after Paul's release ( Philippians 2:19-23).

    After Paul's release from his first imprisonment ( Acts 28:30), he revisited several cities leaving Timothy at Ephesus.

    Paul went on to Macedonia from where he wrote Timothy this letter ( I Timothy 3:14-15).

    Timothy was around 35-years of age when Paul wrote I Timothy.

    Paul was arrested in Troas and taken to Rome and imprisoned for the second and last time.

    Timothy also suffered imprisonment ( Hebrews 13:23).
  • Jesse - 10 months ago
    INTRODUCTION TO 1 TIMOTHY (Part 5):

    Timothy ministered in at least 5 churches as Paul's representative:

    1) Thessalonica ( I Thessalonians 3:2, 6)

    2) Corinth ( I Corinthians 4:17; 16:10; II Corinthians 1:19)

    3) Philippi ( Philippians 2:19-23)

    4) Berea ( Acts 17:14)

    5) Ephesus ( I Timothy 1:3)

    So, here's somebody who spent 15-20 years with Paul all the time. He knew his teaching. He was able to live with him and watch his walk with the Lord, and he was sent out as Paul's representative to these different churches.

    Timothy was with Paul during Paul's first imprisonment ( Philippians 1:1; Colossians 1:1; Philemon 1:1) and went to Philippi after Paul's release ( Philippians 2:19-23). After Paul's release from his first imprisonment ( Acts 28:30), he revisited several cities leaving Timothy at Ephesus.

    Paul went to Macedonia where he wrote Timothy this letter ( I Timothy 3:14-15). Timothy was around 35-years old when Paul wrote I Timothy. Timothy also suffered imprisonment ( Hebrews 13:23).

    IV. DATE OF THE LETTER:

    Written around 62 - 63 A.D. between Paul's first and second imprisonment. Paul wrote both 1 Timothy and Titus during this time. Paul was arrested again sometime after 64 A.D. and condemned to death. July, 64 A.D was when Rome was burned by Nero and blamed on the Christians. So, from 64 A.D. onward, Christianity was an illegal religion.

    That's why there was persecution all the way from 64 A.D. to 313 A.D. Christians were persecuted and put to death because Christianity was an illegal religion until Constantine decided to bring Christianity from the underground and make it a legal religion.

    Christianity joined Constantine's sun worship religion, which is why we have a lot of the traditions we have in the church today. It hasn't come from the bible. It hasn't come from the Christian church in the first 300 years. It came from Constantine's false religious system.

    Paul wrote this letter during his second imprisonment; he also wrote II Timothy.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 10 months ago
    Hi Carleton,

    Thank you, brother, I know I differ in this fervently held belief from most, and not believing it is offensive to many. I just would like to share just a little of my understanding of where I am on this, I know many will disagree.

    We cannot deny the divinity of Christ, He came forth from the Father. Do I believe Jesus was created? NO. Do I believe the Son of God began at Bethlehem, at His birth? NO. If we look at Micah 5:2 at the prophecy of His birth Micah says He will come forth, the Hebrew word yatsa means to go or come out.

    "Whose goings forth have been from old, from everlasting." The Hebrew word for everlasting is olam means long duration, antiquity, futurity, and days of eternity.

    Jesus came forth and was the Son of God before creation as we see He is the beginning of creation all came through Him and for Him, Rev. 3:14 Colossians 1:16. Jesus is the only begotten Son of God who came forth from the Father, (came out of) not created. Does Jesus confirm this, John, 7:29 John 8:42 John 16:27 John 17:8?

    My understanding is Jesus is the literal Son of God, truly begotten of the Father. Jesus came out from God, His true Son, of the same matter, and divinity as the Father with divine inheritance, John 5:26 John 6:57 Heb. 1:4, not a title as a part of God. God truly gave His true only begotten Son John 3:16.

    As the Gospel of Jesus tells us, all who believeth that Jesus is truly the only begotten Son of God. My understanding is if I do not believe Jesus is truly the Son of God I deny Him. That brings in 1 John 2:22 if I say Jesus is God, I deny that there is a Father and a Son.

    Just a little and thank you again for your caring reply, you do not have to reply I just wanted to tell just a little.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Carleton - In Reply - 10 months ago
    P2 Continuation on verses thinking of Jesus Christ.

    Matthew 23:7- 8 "And greeting in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi. But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren."

    Deuteronomy 18:15 "The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken."

    Colossians 1:22 "In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight."

    P3 to follow later-
  • Carleton - 10 months ago
    P1: Re-read some scriptures last evening and would like to write them here.

    All of John Chapter 13 ; Chapter 14

    John 1:4 "In him was life; and the life was the light of men."

    Colossians 1:15 "Who is the image of the invisible God, the first born of every creature."

    Romans 8:32 "He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?"

    Hebrews 1:8 "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom."

    John 1:3 "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made."

    Hebrews 1:3 "Who being the brightness of his glory and express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;"

    Romans 8:29 "For whom he did foreknowledge, he did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the first born among many brethren."

    1 Corinthians 1:29 "That no flesh glory in his presence"

    John 1:14 "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we behold his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."

    Luke 1:31 "And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS."

    Matthew 1:19 "Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privileges."

    Isaiah 53:1 "Who hat believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed?"

    Philippians 2:5 - 6 "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God."

    Hebrews 6:20 "Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest after the order of Melchisedec."

    P2 follows
  • Jesse - 10 months ago
    INTRODUCTION TO COLOSSIANS (Part 1):

    I. ABOUT THE AUTHORS:

    Paul and Timothy. Paul's inscription is on all thirteen of his letters.

    II. TO WHOM IT WAS WRITTEN:

    It was written to the Colossians. Colossians was written for the Christians in the city of Colossae. Colossians was also supposed to be read in the church of Laodicea ( Colossians 4:16). Colossians was written at the same time as Philemon. Both were written while Paul was a prisoner in Rome. ( Colossians 4:3, 10, 18 and Philemon 9, 10, 13, 23)

    Timothy, Aristarchus, Archippus, Mark, Ephaphras, Luke, Onesimus, and Demas all appear in both letters demonstrating Colossians and Philemon were written by the same author at the same time.

    III. THE HISTORY OF COLOSSAE:

    Colossae was a city of Phrygia, in the Roman province of Asia About 90 miles east of Ephesus. Colossae was in the Lycus Valley along with Laodicea and Hierapolis. The population of Colossae was mostly Gentile but had a large number of Jewish population.

    The church at Colossae began during Paul's three-year ministry at Ephesus (Acts Chapter 19). During this three-year period, Epaphras was saved while visiting Ephesus. The Church at Colossae was established by Epaphras, not Paul ( Colossians 1:5-7).

    Several years after the Colossians church was founded, dangerous heresies began to circulate in it. Epaphras was so concerned about these heresies that he made the long journey from Colossae to Rome were Paul was a prisoner ( Colossians 4:12-13).
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 10 months ago
    Amen Carleton.

    By the Spirit of truth that worked in him mighty.

    Colossians 1:25-29.

    Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;

    Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:

    To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

    Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:

    Whereunto I also labour, striving according to his working, which worketh in me mightily.

    God bless you and Good night.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Jerry.

    Part 5.

    Who is God? - His Nature

    We know certain things to be true of God for one reason: in His mercy He has condescended to reveal some of His qualities to us. God is spirit, by nature intangible ( John 4:24). God is One, but He exists as three Persons-God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit ( Matthew 3:16-17). God is infinite ( 1 Timothy 1:17), incomparable ( 2 Samuel 7:22), and unchanging ( Malachi 3:6). God exists everywhere ( Psalm 139:7-12), knows everything ( Psalm 147:5; Isaiah 40:28), and has all power and authority ( Ephesians 1; Revelation 19:6).

    Who is God? - His Work

    We cannot understand God apart from His works, because what God does flows from who He is. Here is an abbreviated list of God's works, past, present, and future: God created the world ( Genesis 1:1; Isaiah 42:5); He actively sustains the world ( Colossians 1:17); He is executing His eternal plan ( Ephesians 1:11) which involves the redemption of man from the curse of sin and death ( Galatians 3:13-14); He draws people to Christ ( John 6:44); He disciplines His children ( Hebrews 12:6); and He will judge the world ( Revelation 20:11-15).

    Who is God? - A Relationship with Him

    In the Person of the Son, God became incarnate ( John 1:14). The Son of God became the Son of Man and is therefore the "bridge" between God and man ( John 14:6; 1 Timothy 2:5). It is only through the Son that we can have forgiveness of sins ( Ephesians 1:7), reconciliation with God ( John 15:15; Romans 5:10), and eternal salvation ( 2 Timothy 2:10). In Jesus Christ "all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form" ( Colossians 2:9). So, to really know who God is, all we have to do is look at Jesus.

    Jerry that is much of what we know about God and that probably don't scratch the surface on GOD!

    I HOPE THIS HELPS.

    GOD BLESS.
  • Plaintalk - In Reply - 11 months ago
    Brother Dan:

    There is only ONE SIN ..... UNBELIEF .....all other sins are COVERED by the blood of Christ.

    John 16:8 And when HE IS COME, he (the Holy Ghost) will reprove the world of SIN .... UNBELIEF ..... the HOLY Ghost is going to rule the world with a rod or iron (truth and mercy)

    John 16:9 OF SIN, because they BELIEVE NOT on me (THE WORD) .....

    Most believe Jesus came for the WORKS of the cross ..... they don't BELIEVE those WORKS ....

    ALL BODIES DIED (yours, mine, and Christ's) on the cross 2000 years ago; ONLY ONE BODY arose, the BODY of CHRIST.

    1 Corinthians 12:27 ... NOW ye are the BODY of Christ ..... who did NO SIN .....

    There is NO .... I, me, myself ... ONLY ONE BODY .... the body of Christ ..... all creation, the NEW CREATION ....

    John 17:22 And the glory that thou (the Spirit that raised Christ) has given me, I have GIVEN THEM (the new creation) that they may be ONE as we are ONE.

    If you don't BELIEVE his WORDS your continuing in SIN ..... if you BELIEVE his WORDS you CANNOT SIN .... your just doing what Christ WILLS and Causes you TO DO.

    Colossians 1:27 ..... this MYSTERY .... Christ in YOU ......

    Ezekiel 36:27 And I (the Holy Ghost) will put my Spirit IN YOU (his body) and CAUSE you to walk in my statutes, and keep my judgements, and DO THEM.

    Philippians 2:13 For it is God that WORKETH IN YOU both to WILL and to do his good pleasure.

    Most don't BELIEVE the WORD.

    God is giving you eyes to SEE his truth, your Christ's BODY, he is causing you to DO his good pleasure; therefore, you; his body, CANNOT SIN, because it's HIS WORKS, not your works.

    Revelation 2:26 ....and he that keepeth MY WORKS to the end, to him will I give power over the nations ....as I have been given of my Father .....

    God bless you as Christ CAUSES us to walk in TRUTH.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 1 year ago
    S Spencer on the last week.

    Part 2

    2 To make an end of sins (Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law). The verb in the Hebrew text translated as "put an end to" can mean "to seal up". The covering of our sins was accomplished on the cross at Calvary. When he said IT IS FINISHED, he provided us with the garments (wedding garments) to cover our sins. Psalm 32:1-2 Matthew 1:21 John 1:29 Romans 8:3 1 Corinthians 15:3 Hebrews 10:8-11 1 John 3:5 Revelation 16:15.

    Is there still sin today? Yes. Will there still be sin and death after Jesus's second coming? Yes. Even during the 1000 years, there will be sin and death until all is made new Rev. 21:1-4 but through Jesus, they are covered and sealed, Rev. 16:15

    3 To make reconciliation for iniquity (Reconciliation is an element of salvation that refers to the results of the atonement, iniquity is guilt, crookedness, perverseness, that which is not straight or upright, moral distortion, in the dark. Colossians 1:20-22 Isaiah 53:6 Isaiah 53:11 Ephesians 2:16 Titus 2:14 2 Corinthians 5:18-19.

    The word reconcile means to bring back to a former state of harmony Jesus reconciled both Jew and Gentile unto God in one body by the cross and now through Jesus we both Jew and Gentile have access by one Spirit unto the Father no more strangers or foreigners but fellow citizens. Making reconciliation for iniquity concerns our involvement in the work of salvation.

    4 To bring in everlasting righteousness. Everlasting, no end, righteousness, justice, mercy, loving-kindness, in conformity to the demands of the covenant and according to God's will, fair and balanced. Isaiah 61:10-11 2 Corinthians 5:21 Romans 3:21-26 Romans 5:17-21 1 Peter 2:24.

    See Part 3
  • Landry - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Brother David0921:

    I am going to let the word of God answer the questions you ask.

    You ask: Did the apostle Paul commit sin after he was saved.

    1 John 3:9 Whosoever is BORN of GOD doeth not commit sin, for his (GOD'S) SEED remaineth in him: and he CANNOT sin because he is BORN of God.

    You ask: in 100 years will I be alive in physical body? YES!

    John 11:26 Whosoever liveth and believeth in me (the SEED) shall NEVER DIE, believest thou this?

    Luke 20:36 Neither can they (the SEED) DIE ANYMORE (they died with Christ on the cross): for they are EQUAL unto the ANGELS (angles have Christ's resurrected body); and are the children (SONS, like Christ) of God, being the children (SEED) of the resurrection.

    1 Corinthians 15:38 But God giveth it (Christ's SEED) a body as it has pleased him, to every SEED his (Christ's) OWN BODY.

    You ask: do I every commit sin. NO!

    Galatians 2:20 .....I am DEAD, nonetheless I LIVE, YET NOT I, but Christ LIVETH IN ME .... ALL creation DIED on the cross ....ONLY ONE SEED (Christ) arose ....

    You ask: What does it mean to be born again.

    To believe the WORD's Of GOD.

    You can not be BORN again until you BELIEVE YOUR DEAD, only Christ is alive.

    You ask: Where is Paul living and in what form:

    Luke 20:36 ...EQUAL to the angles .... the IMAGE of CHRIST ...... Christ is the ANGEL of GOD ......

    Isaiah 63:8 .... and the ANGEL of his (God's) presence SAVED them ..... Paul is living IN and BY the presence of Christ, in the body of Christ ...

    Colossians 1:27 ..... this mystery ..... Christ in you .....

    1 Corinthians 12:27 ... ye are the BODY of Christ ....

    God bless YOU!
  • Oseas - 1 year ago
    JESUS' own testimony about Himself is wonderful, and reveals to us in depth the mystery of His existence here in the greatness of the Universe created by GOD, the Word, GOD the Father, full of heavenly bodies, and here on Earth, specifically, He populated the planet with living beings, and sat in the circle of the Earth, as is written in Isaiah 40:21-22KJV:

    21 Have ye not known? have ye not heard? hath it not been told you from the beginning? have ye not understood from the foundations of the earth?

    22 It is GOD that sitteth upon the circle of the Earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; ...

    That said, we must remember what JESUS said from His own existence: - John 17:4-5KJV: as follow:

    4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do. ( John 1:3, and 5:17, and Hebrews 1:1-2KJV testify about this that JESUS said. Take a look.)

    5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the WORLD was. (John the Baptist, the angel of the LORD, testified about this, saying: John 1:18KJV- 18 No man hath seen GOD at any time, the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, He hath declared Him.)

    Paul testified, saying: Colossians 1:14-16KJV:

    14 In JESUS we have redemption through His blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

    15 Who is the image of the INVISIBLE GOD -the Word- the Word is GOD- , the firstborn of every creature (the Word made flesh):

    16 For by Him -by JESUS- were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by Him, and for Him: ( John 1:3, and 5:17, and Hebrews 1:1-2 confirm)
  • Landry - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Jema:

    Your comment sums up antichrist.

    As David0921 said, there is only two kingdoms on earth, the Kingdom of God and the kingdom of Satan.

    The Kingdom of God of God is the Spirit of TRUTH, LIFE and LIGHT: CHRIST.

    The opposite of Christ is antichrist.

    The kingdom of Satan, the spirit of deception, death, and darkness.

    It's not ONE antichrist in that kingdom, it begins with ALL men.

    1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist; wherefore you have heard that it should COME, and even NOW already is it in the world.

    Most Christians confess that Christ came the first time in the flesh, FEW confess that he came the second time as the LIFE in the body of man.

    Christ is still on the earth in the FLESH, in YOU his body; YOU, sinful flesh DIED on the cross, ONLY Christ arose to indwell YOU, his flesh.

    John 16:8 And when he (the SPIRIT of Christ) is COME (Christ second coming as the Holy Ghost) HE (Christ) will reprove the WORLD OF SIN (unbelief).

    Colossians 1:27 ..... this mystery .... Christ in you ...... a NEW CREATION ......

    God bless you
  • Landry - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hammer63:

    You said we have to read the bible correctly:

    Jesus SAID he spoke to the multitude in PARABLES.

    He literally placed a physical child in the midst of them them; BUT the TEACHING was not about a physical child, but the fact that HIS RESURRECTION was going to make YOU a new creation, a new birth, being raised with Christ.

    And whosoever receiveth one such little child (the Holy Ghost) RECEIVETH ME (Christ in you).

    Colossians 1:27 .... this mystery ..... CHRIST IN YOU ..... the Holy Ghost IN YOU .... the Spirit of God IN YOU .... the LIFE in YOU ..... the TRUTH in YOU ..... you are the BODY OF CHRIST.....

    The glory that thou hast given me, I have given them, that as we are ONE, that they may be ONE in us.

    The is ONLY one CHILD; but HE dwells, and is the LIFE and TRUTH in all bodies.

    You are the body of CHRIST.

    Not many understand what the resurrection accomplished.

    All men died with Christ on the cross, all men were made alive by being resurrected with Christ.

    At each man's appointed time, Christ will CAUSE them to come to TRUTH.

    I WILL put my Spirit in YOU and CAUSE YOU to walk in my statues and keep my judgements, and do them.

    For it is God that worketh IN YOU both to will and to do his good pleasure.

    God bless you as his truth is revealed IN YOU.
  • Stephen Peppin - In Reply - 1 year ago
    For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of his will. Colossians 1:9

    And he arose, and came to his father. But when he was yet a great way off, his father saw him, and had compassion, and ran, and fell on his neck, and kissed him. And the son said unto him, Father, I have sinned against heaven, and in thy sight, and am no more worthy to be called thy son. But the father said to his servants, Bring forth the best robe, and put it on him; and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on his feet: And bring hither the fatted calf, and kill it; and let us eat, and be merry: For this my son was dead, and is alive again; he was lost, and is found. Luke 15:20-24

    Rejoice evermore. Pray without ceasing. In every thing give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus concerning you. 1 Thessalonians 5:16

    O give thanks unto the Lord; for he is good: for his mercy endureth for ever. O give thanks unto the God of gods: for his mercy endureth for ever. Psalm 136:1,2
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Jimbob,

    I think we both agree that the atoning blood sacrifice of Jesus Christ is very important. I was drawn to your comparison of Colossians 1:14 between the NIV and the KJB. I do not own an NIV but I have a few bible software programs that give me access to multiple bibles.

    Anyway, I looked this up for myself. You are correct. But was it the intent of the NIV to eliminate or diminish the blood sacrifice? I don't believe so. I read a little further down in the same chapter (Verse 20) which reads, "and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross"

    If it was the intent of the NIV to leave out the words "through His blood," why would it be mentioned in other places, especially in Ephesians 1:7 (NIV) which reads, "In him we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins."

    You would think that if the NIV was intentionally trying to remove the blood sacrifice, then it would not be found in any other place.

    Is there any reason why you fail to mention other verses in the NIV such as Romans 3:25 that says "God presented Christ as a sacrifice of atonement, through the shedding of his blood," 1 Peter 1:18-19 which mentions the precious blood of Christ, Ephesians 2:13 which says we have been brought near by the blood of Christ," Hebrews 9:14, "How much more, then, will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself unblemished to God, cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death, so that we may serve the living God!" or Revelation 1:5 which says "To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood."

    It doesn't seem fair to only bring up Colossians 1:14 without mentioning these other verses, especially Ephesians 1:7.

    I am not defending the NIV, but I'm also not condemning it either.

    Blessings to you in Christ Jesus!
  • Fredscanlan - In Reply on Colossians 1 - 1 year ago
    "The hope laid up for you in heaven".

    Where is Heaven ? Is it the kingdom that Christ established at His resurrection?

    Is it the heavens that we will arrive in someday? Can we experience the heavenly now?

    Paul calls us Saints, imagine what it is to be a Saint. Holy, . blessed children in the here and now! This is something to see and yet we can celebrate heaven in the here and now! If you are Saint you are a blessed child of God ,"Which is come unto you" . We can receive these things and realize the joy that living in the Spirit brings unto the Saints. Growing into the things that belong to those who Love Him!

    Repent and be Baptized
  • Farther-daughter on Colossians 1 - 1 year ago
    We are the image of God, and we should live, walk, talk, spiritually as him. Being humble, loving, forgiving, and worshiping our Lord and Savior.


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