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  • PROPHECY - In Reply on Zechariah 13 - 2 years ago
    Dere:

    Salvation is so YOU will never die; but are GIVEN eternal life.

    1 John 5:11 And this is the record, God hath GIVEN to us eternal LIFE, and THAT LIFE is his SON.

    YOU DIED with Christ on the cross.

    YOU AROSE, a new creation, the LIFE of Christ IN YOU: you are the body of Christ.

    1 Timothy 6:16 Who (Christ) ONLY hath IMMORTALITY, dwelling in the light ....

    1 Corinthians 15:53 .....and this mortal (you) SHALL PUT ON IMMORTALITY .....Christ ONLY hath IMMORTALITY.

    1 Corinthians 15:54 .....Death is swallowed up in victory ......

    Colossians 1:27 .....this MYSTERY .....Christ in YOU .....

    1 Corinthians 12:27 Now ye are the BODY of Christ ....

    Psalms 82:6 I have said, YOU are gods, the children of the most high.

    This is the GOOD NEWS of the gospel.

    God bless you!
  • Henry - 2 years ago
    , Colossians 1:27 I haven't noticed on this forum many sharings on the

    Subject of Christ in us the hope of Glory which is the spiritual power it's

    Available to walk in against the spiritual powers we deal with. We who are

    Born again Saints are viewed by God our Father as more than conquer sons

    And daughters and Jesus Christ our head Spiritual brother. Put on His armor

    God's Word Ephesians 6 and conquer in Love.
  • PROPHECY - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Brother James:

    They are the same; BUT,

    Christ spoke other words ALSO:

    And ALL CHRIST'S Words will COME TO PASS.

    Ezekiel 18:31 Cast away from you all your transgressions; whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a NEW heart and a NEW spirit: for WHY WILL YE DIE, O house of Israel?

    This QUESTION has to be ANSWERED: so we will ONLY DIE ONCE, and that DEATH happens while we stand on our own two feet.

    Revelation 21:5 .....I make ALL THINGS NEW ....

    So there will be a NEW MT. OLIVE: that is in NEW Jerusalem, a city made of LIVING stones, and a NEW temple therein.

    This NEW PLACE, where God DWELLS is YOU.

    Hebrews 9:27 For it is appointed to man ONCE TO DIE; but after this the JUDGEMENT.

    Remember, ALL things have been made NEW.

    Christ has BUILT a NEW HOUSE.

    Hebrews 3:4 For every house is builded by some man; but he that build (ready done) ALL THINGS is God.

    Hebrews 3:6 But Christ as a son over HIS OWN HOUSE, whose HOUSE WE ARE ...the NEW house of God, where God dwells.

    What is this NEW judgement.

    1 Peter 4:17 FOR THE TIME IS COME (Christ second coming, as the Holy Ghost, to LIVE is his NEW house: YOU) that JUDGEMENT must begin at the (NEW) house of GOD.

    Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was once OFFERED (in the flesh) to bear the sins of many (first coming); and unto them who LOOK FOR HIM (the thief in the night) he shall APPEAR the SECOND TIME (second coming, like a thief in the night) without sin UNTO SALVATION.

    This house, our body, already has someone; the spirit of deception, that old serpent the devil, living in it; so that inhabitant has to DIE to make way for the NEW:

    Colossians 1:27 ...this mystery ...Christ in you ...

    Matthew 12:28 But if I (the NEW man, Christ IN YOU) by the SPIRIT of GOD (TRUTH) cast out (kill, destroy) devils (the spirit of lies and deception, that live in MY HOUSE) then the Kingdom of God HAS COME TO YOU.

    Remember ALL THINGS have been made NEW, but you CANNOT see them with eyes of flesh.

    God Bless YOU, the body of Christ
  • PROPHECY - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Amen Brother Luke:

    Acts 1:9 ....and he was taken up; and a CLOUD received him (Christ the GLORIFIED BODY out of their sight;

    INTO MAN: his BODY).

    Christ was taken into (NEW) heaven: MAN the BODY of CHRIST.

    The CLOUD: the Glory and Presence of God ABIDING in, and on, God's temple.

    Exodus 40:38 For the CLOUD of the Lord was upon the tabernacle (temple of God) by day, and FIRE (Hebrew 12:29) by night .....

    2 Corinthians 6:16 ....for ye are the temple of the LIVING GOD ......

    Colossians 1:27 ....this MYSTERY .....Christ in you .... HIS BODY .....HIS TEMPLE .....HIS LIFE ....HIS TRUTH...

    Romans 8:29 .... to be CONFORMED (by the NEW BIRTH) to the IMAGE OF CHRIST ....

    2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the eyes of them WHICH BELIEVE NOT, lest the light of the GLORIOUS GOSPEL, should shine unto them.

    Psalms 82:6 I (the word) have SAID; ye are gods, the children of the most high.

    John 10:34 Jesus answered them, IS IT NOT WRITTEN in your law, Ye are gods?

    John 10:35 If he called them gods, TO WHOM the WORD of God CAME, the scripture CANNOT be broken.

    Luke 9:23 .... If any man will come after me (the second coming of Christ: IN YOU) let him will DENY HIMSELF and take up his cross (first death) and follow ME (I AM the resurrection).

    Ephesians 4:4 ...ONE Spirit (the Father) ....ONE Body (Man) ......

    Christ the firstborn among many BRETHREN (the image of Christ).

    God Bless you (the body Christ).
  • Richard H Priday on Hebrews 3 - 2 years ago
    This chapter; for example in verse 6 shows the importance of enduring until the end. Verse 12 asks us to take heed in case an evil heart has us depart from God. Perseverance until the end is repeated in verse 14; with the example o Israel in the desert being largely rejected in verse 15 once again hammering home the theme of this chapter.

    This isn't exactly "politically correct" in reformed circles; or anywhere else for that matter (for those who always want encouraging scripture verses; for instance who we will keep anonymous). First of all; "assurance of salvation" isn't relying on "fire insurance" to keep us out of hell; and if we are elect and chosen then indeed we will heed the warnings. We need to comprehend through the indwelling Holy Spirit the hopelessness of our state; which should only be magnified after we are truly "Born Again". This almost mystic one time salvation prayer certainly can't be relied on to bring a foreign righteousness alien to our own human nature if there is no transformation of our hearts. Our society which once found it expedient to have a "Judeo-Christian" moral code has no interest in a "form of godliness denying the power thereof" ( 2 Tim. 3:5). Those who are tares will never endure to the end; and those lukewarm likewise will be stripped of any viable testimony with our whole society at such an advanced state of sinful decline ripe for judgment.

    The other issue is that even among apparently doctrinally sound churches today there is little dogmatic preaching on the reality of hell. When you hear the gospel being proclaimed it is nice although rare hearing those who are emphatic about what they are saved from; which often intersects with those who are not warning if the Tribulation wrath and sufferings coming after the Rapture. When we study about Christ our living Head ( Colossians 1:18) and we see how they tried to kill him 10 times before His death as well as the Apostles we see the expected result of Godly lives
  • PROPHECY - In Reply on Proverbs 1 - 2 years ago
    Brother S Spencer:

    No one is going to change someones opinion, that's the Holy Ghost's job, we are just to preach truth.

    Truth does not contradict God's words.

    You don't go to heaven.

    You (sinful flesh) DIED on the Cross, you, the (glorified) BODY of Christ, was raised back by the resurrection of Christ.

    The Spirit (in a glorified body) goes back to God that gave it.

    Christ, the glorified Body, (LIFE and TRUTH) is in man ( Colossians 1:27).

    Philippians 2:13 For it is God (Christ in you) that worketh both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

    Those chosen in this age, WILL BE ONE with Christ: IN MAN bringing man to GOD ( John 1:51).

    Ezekiel 14:9 And if the prophet (of man) be deceived when he has spoken such a thing, I the Lord HAVE DECEIVED that prophet .....

    1 Thessalonians 2:11 For this cause GOD SHALL SEND them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

    The whole world is DECEIVED, only the Holy Ghost can reveal truth.

    1 Thessalonians 2:12 That they ALL (everyone of us) might be damned (JUDGED, now or later, by God's words) who believe not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

    1 Corinthians 15:28 And when ALL THINGS (in the ages to come) SHALL BE subdued to him, the shall the Son also himself be subject to him who put all things under him, that God may be ALL in ALL.

    We either come to truth now; and become ONE with the WORD, in this age, or latter, in the ages to come. God's CHOICE.

    Psalms 22:27 And all the ends of the world SHALL REMEMBER (when they are resurrected back into bodies of flesh and judged by God's words) and turn unto the Lord: for all kindreds of the nations shall worship before thee.

    ALL God's WORDS will be fulfilled ( Isaiah 55:11).

    God Bless You.
  • PROPHECY - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Brother John:

    Isn't everyone a unbeliever before they are a believer?

    Isn't everyone a liar?

    Isn't everyone fearful?

    The lake of fire is Christ.

    Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.

    If your in Christ and Christ is in you; then your in the FIRE.

    Matthew 3:11 ....and he shall baptise you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire.

    Malachi 3:2 And who shall abide the day of his coming (Christ in you, Colossians 1:27, baptised into his name)? and who can stand when he (TRUTH and LIFE, John 14:6) appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire and a fullers soap.

    Malachi 3:3 And he shall set (in you) as a refiner and purifier of silver: that YOU may offer unto the Lord an offering in RIGHTEOUSNESS.

    God Bless You.
  • PROPHECY - In Reply on Proverbs 1 - 2 years ago
    Sister Amanda:

    The purpose of it all, is to bring God's creation to TRUTH.

    Creation is DECEIVED.

    Sinful flesh (man) DIED ON THE CROSS; a NEW CREATION (Christ in you) arose.

    1 Corinthians 12:27 Now ye are the body of Christ ....

    Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD (Christ in you) that worketh both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

    Colossians 1:27 ...this mystery ....Christ IN YOU .....

    John 17:23 I in THEM, and THOU in ME, that they may be PERFECT (Christ is the only one perfect) in one .....

    Psalms 82:6 I have said, ye are gods, the children of the most high.

    Philippians 1:29 For UNTO YOU it is GIVEN in the BEHALF of Christ, not only to BELIEVE on HIM (the word), but also to suffer for his sake.

    Romans 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature WAITETH for the MANIFESTATION of the Sons of God.

    Why is creation WAITING?

    Obadiah 1:21 And saviours (God's SONS, Christ and his brothers) shall come on mount Zion to JUDGE the mount of Esau, and the kingdom SHALL BE the LORD'S.

    Psalms 149:9 To execute upon them the JUDGEMENT written, this HONOUR hath all his saints.

    Romans 8:21 For the creature itself SHALL BE DELIVERED from the bondage of corruption (death and the grave) into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

    1 Corinthians 15:28 And when all things have been subdued unto him, then shall the son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that GOD may be ALL in ALL.

    Billions of people; dead and in the grave, are AWAITING the arrival of Christ and his brothers at the resurrection of the dead: to be brought to TRUTH.

    Proverbs 16:6 By MERCY and TRUTH iniquity is purged .....

    BELIEF will judge UNBELIEF.

    God Bless YOU, his body.
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello again One Eighty. Looking at our comments both now & previous, I think the problem I have is understanding the phrase you use, "I believe Jesus is an EXTENSION (creation) of God Who is Spirit."

    I don't use the word 'creation' to refer to Christ's appearance, as that denotes that God created Jesus, as One Who had no previous existence (e.g. Adam & Eve were created, the angels were created, animals, etc. as well). Whereas Jesus was never created as He is the Word incarnate (made flesh); i.e. the Word was always in God's Being & God took His Word and embodied His Word with humanity. The Word, though in human form, never ceased to be vitally connected to God, i.e. the Word was always Divine (holding the Divine Nature), but for the sake of taking upon Himself flesh, for suffering & dying, Jesus made Himself of no reputation ( Philippians 2:6-8): Greek for that is 'ekenosen', emptied Himself of His full Divinity - which He had to of course, to become man with human limitations, aging & death.

    You've also said that "Jesus is an EXTENSION of God" & I think I can understand your meaning with this, but I wouldn't use 'creation' for Jesus, because how can a created One also be the Creator & Sustainer of all things ( Ephesians 3:9; Colossians 1:13-17)? So, I'm unsure whether we're saying the same things & using specific words to describe Jesus' manifestation, or whether we need to discuss further what I've shared about the eternal Nature of Christ Jesus. Blessings.
  • PROPHECY - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Brother Jesse:

    I agree with your comments.

    We have to surrender (die) our life to Christ.

    Do we have life, in and of ourselves, NO? Most don't understand this.

    1 Corinthians 4:11 For we which LIVE are always delivered unto death for Jesus sake, that the LIFE OF JESUS might be made manifest in our mortal bodies (as well as in our IMMORTAL bodies in the AGE TO COME).

    To repent means to change our way of UNDERSTANDING.

    To repent would be to agree with God's word.

    John 14:6 I AM the way, the Truth, and the LIFE.

    Colossians 1:27 ....this mystery ....Christ in you .....

    Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD (in you) that worketh both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

    Christ (the first man) UNDERSTOOD this ....THOU in ME....the Father did EVERYTHING through Christ.

    Man has to come to TRUTH (Christ in you): Man does EVERYTHING ....I in THEM .....through Christ.

    This is the great DECEPTION: No KNOWLEDGE of the WORKS of God.

    Hebrews 2:8 .....For now we see NOT YET all things put under him.

    Man's time table IS NOT God's timetable.

    Ephesians 2:7 That in the AGES TO COME .....

    Isaiah 11:9 ....for the earth shall be full of the KNOWLEDGE of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.

    Isaiah 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I PLEASE, and it shall prosper in the things whereto I SENT IT.

    1 Corinthians 15:28 And when all things (in the ages to come) have been subdued to him, then shall the Son also be subject unto him who put all things under him, that GOD may be ALL in ALL.

    God Bless ALL on our pilgrimage to TRUTH.
  • Chris - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 13:11 - 2 years ago
    Indeed brother John, just as we are bound to mature biologically, so we must endeavour, by the Grace of God, to mature spiritually: that we "might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding; That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God" ( Colossians 1:9,10).
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Just on this matter about 'Jesus being a creation of God', Brad. We see a couple of phrases used in the Bible: 'firstborn' and 'only begotten'.

    'Firstborn' (Gk. prototokos, first to give birth to, firstborn) as seen in Romans 8:29, "the firstborn among many brethren", where Paul applies the meaning to Jesus being the first to bring humanity & divinity into one (i.e. Jesus the Word (God) united with humanity (flesh); and to us who are saved (i.e. humanity (flesh) united with the Spirit (God)).

    And also in Colossians 1:15, "the firstborn of every creature", referring to Christ's highest rank & full rights bestowed upon Him by the Father over all creation; & that creation came into being by His Word Jesus & through Him, being held together by the Word of His Power (vv16,17 & Hebrews 1:3).

    'Only begotten' (Gk. monogenes, unique, one of a kind) as seen in John 3:16, Hebrews 5:5, 1 John 4:9, etc. Could we say that Jesus was a created Being by God, as one would describe a creation of a baby in the womb or a potter creating a vessel from a lump of clay? The use of 'monogenes' strongly suggests that Jesus wasn't created, simply because He already existed within God's Person as the Word of God. But God did something not done before - a unique birth: that which always existed came into the World in another form - Mary's womb was merely the delivery point for prophecy's fulfilment & for Jesus' identification with His people. God could just as well have zapped His Word into flesh & onto Earth, but God had His Own special Plan.

    One could use the word 'created' in this respect as you've done, but that might then bring on the thought that Jesus was a created Being without an eternal existence. I feel 'monogenes' satisfies the uniqueness of Jesus' pre- & post-incarnation Presence.
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello Ronald. If I might add my understanding to some of the Scriptural references you gave.

    Revelation 3:14: "These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God." The Greek for 'beginning' is 'arche', as we add that prefix to the words such as 'arch-enemy, arch-bishop, arch-rival. It certainly has the primary meaning of a 'beginning or first in line', but it clearly denotes 'one who holds the primary highest position/control over others'. That being the case, if Jesus first appeared as the creation by God in the womb of Mary, it could never be said that He was the beginning/first in line to all of God's Creation, which happened several millennia prior. But Jesus was there because He was involved in the creative Work ( John 1:1-3; Colossians 1:16; Hebrews 1:2).

    Colossians 1:15: "Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature." I understand that 'firstborn' indicated here, refers to the 'rights & privileges' of the firstborn child (e.g. 2 Chronicles 21:3). All God's creation have received His Love & Care, but at the birth of His Son into humanity, Jesus, as the Son, was the first(born) to gain/inherit His Father's full estate, as well as enjoying "the fullness of God in Himself" ( Colossians 1:19). But the full riches of God to humanity could only be realized by those placing their trust in the Forerunner & Shepherd of their faith, Jesus Christ.

    John 17:5: "O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was." What was His Glory? We can assume all of God's Glory, for He is the Word of/from God, but even if that wasn't the case, Jesus, as the Word of God, had that Glory even before creation of the worlds.

    You stated, "I honor the Son for what He gave up." If Jesus (the Word) didn't exist from eternity within the Person of God, & was only created from the womb of Mary, I wonder what He had to give up? Your responses have been very interesting.
  • Ronnette - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Hello David:

    Yes I understood the same way you do. I just wanted to ensure that we saved as many people on this site. That is why it is important to take time to explain based on the Bible. The Book of Acts is a transitional book. Luke did a magnificent job inspired by God writing the chain of events after Jesus Christ died on the cross. Peter and the rest of the Apostles concentrated on preaching to the Jews, but when they have rejected it three times Paul went to the Gentiles. But Jews and Gentiles today can be saved by the mystery of the Gospel of Paul 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. We are saved by grace through faith. We are baptized by trusting on Jesus Christ's death, burial and resurrection meaning trusting on the blood of Jesus Christ. Christ Jesus already went to the most Holiest of Holy to sprinkle His own blood as the Jews did on earth. So anybody today can be saved by that blood. Once you are saved, the mysteries are revealed by the Holy Spirit. We are the Body of Christ, the Bride of Christ, knowing Christ in you.

    Romans 16:25; Galatians 1:9-12; Galatians 2:1-14; Acts 15:11; Roman's 2:16; 1 Peter 1:10-12; 1Peter 1:18-20;

    1Corinthians 4:1

    Colossians 1:18; Colossians 1:24-27; Ephesians 1:13; Romans 8:9-11; Ephesians 4:30; 1 Corinthians 3:16 and many more I can share. So knowing we are saved, we know the mystery of the rapture. 1 Corinthians 15:50-58; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18

    Romans 9:1; 2 Corinthians 11:31; Galatians 1:20; 1 Timothy 2:7

    Revelation 3:3. We are watching and praying with thanksgiving.

    We are on the last days and we want all to be saved. We are here on earth to fulfill God's purpose - To trust God and to do God's will. Nothing of anything good we do. Rejoice evermore! I am so happy to communicate with you David. Have a blessed weekend.
  • OLD MAN WILSON - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Sister Suze:

    When our body of flesh and blood DIES, do you believe we are instantly in the presence of God with the same glorified body that Christ has.

    We don't have to wait for the second resurrection, we are the (first) resurrection INTO Christ.

    2 Corinthians 4:10 Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the LIFE also of JESUS might be made manifest in OUR BODY.

    2 Corinthians 4:11 For WE WHICH LIVE (being raised INTO Christ) are always delivered unto DEATH for Jesus' sake, that the LIFE OF JESUS might be made manifest in OUR MORTAL FLESH.

    Colossians 1:27 ....this mystery ....CHRIST IN YOU......

    Philippians 2:13 For it is God (Christ in you) that worketh (his life, we have no life, we are just CHRIST BODY) in you both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure (Christ is the LIFE in us)

    1 Corinthians 15:38 But God giveth IT (the new creation: the LIFE OF CHRIST) a body, and to every SEED HIS (the FATHER'S) own body (Christ is the BODY of the FATHER).

    1 Corinthians 15:28 ...And GOD (the Father, the ONLY LIFE THERE IS) will be ALL (LIFE) in ALL (BODIES).

    Ephesians 4:4 ONE Spirit (one life) ...ONE Body (man) ....

    Ephesians 4:5 ONE God and Father of ALL .....

    God BLESS YOU
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    You're correct Robert, Jesus was always referred to as the Son OF God, or the Son OF Man - and so He was & is. Yet, when we consider other Scriptures of how Jesus regarded His relationship to the Father, we are compelled to re-think our beliefs.

    Other Scriptures have been given on this thread, but I would emphasize only a few:

    John 17:5 - Jesus had God's Glory even before the worlds were created.

    Matthew 1:23 - Jesus' Name, Emmanuel, is "God with us".

    Colossians 1:15-17 - Jesus is God's Image; Jesus created all things; Jesus was before all things & He holds all things together.

    John 10:30 - Jesus' claimed equality with God, for this very reason the Jews wanted to stone Him.

    Just a few very compelling verses to show beyond doubt that this Jesus was not a mere created being for the world's salvation. He was the Essence of God (the Word of God made flesh) Who was declared as God coming in the flesh ( John 1:1-14).

    We would have to discount Jesus' former Glory in Heaven, His Name as, "God now with mankind", His creative & sustaining Work, and His Own claim of equality with the Father, to believe that Jesus was anything less than wholly Divine in Heaven & on Earth.

    It may be difficult for our fickle human minds to comprehend such concepts & Truths, but our weaknesses should not prohibit us from believing God's Word & the necessity for God Himself to pay to secure our salvation (this is His love demonstrated) - no other sacrifice would do - not even a special created human being or a specially prepared animal. If the people of His day understood it & the apostles & early Church believed it, then where & how did we go wrong by rejecting His Deity?
  • Robert Malit - In Reply - 2 years ago
    THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD = JESUS

    OLD TESTAMENT PROPHECY OF PROPET ISAIAH

    SHEDDING OF BLOOD FOR REMISSION OF SINS

    Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

    Isaiah 43:10 - Ye [are] my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I [am] he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

    Isaiah 43:11 - I, [even] I, [am] the LORD; and beside me [there is] no saviour.

    Isaiah 44:6 - Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I [am] the first, and I [am] the last; and beside me [there is] no God.

    NEW TESTAMENT - OLD TESTAMENT PROPHECY FULFILLED

    JESUS SHED BLOOD, DIED ON THE CROSS, RISEN FROM THE DEAD, ASCENDED INTO HEAVEN

    John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

    John 1:2 - The same was in the beginning with God.

    John 1:3 - All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

    John 1:14 - And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

    John 8:58 - Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

    John 10:30 - I and [my] Father are one.

    John 14:6 - Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

    Colossians 1:15 - 22 - Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17And he is before all things, and by him all things consist
  • Ronnette - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Hello Mr. Adam Clark:

    First and foremost are you saved by the blood of the crucified Jesus Christ in whom we received all treasures and knowledge by acknowledging the mystery of God and of the Father, of Christ His Son (One God in three persons-The Trinity)? Colossians 1:27-28 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:

    I just have noticed some contentions about this in some comments. We can talk about the end times but it is very important to ALL that they know 100% they are saved and that they are going to Heaven. Noticed even in the beginning God gave us the messages on the importance of the blood from Genesis to Revelation.

    The LORD God must have sacrificed blood, for it maybe a lamb to make coats of skins to clothed Adam and Eve. Genesis 3:21

    We also see the importance of blood sacrifices between Cain and Abel. Genesis 4:3 Understand the motive of Cain. He offered the fruit of the ground whereby Cain worked hard for it. Like saying to God "Look what I did". I say this because of v5. In v4 Abel was respected because of animal blood sacrificed. This story depicted not of what you do, God is interested in you acknowledging the blood which are examples of a type of what later Jesus Christ would do as our own lamb. Clearly here we are saved by the blood and not by works.

    Colossians 1:5; 1:14; 1 Corinthians 15:1-4

    You can read in Leviticus that they have to kill a lamb over and over again in order to get forgiveness of sins. Now look at Leviticus 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul. Your soul being forgiven through blood. Revelation1:5;5:9. Are you saved by the blood of Jesus Christ?
  • DAVID - In Reply on Romans 4 - 2 years ago
    Obeka In Gods eyes we are spiritually perfect the work is putting his word on in our minds Romans12:2 and then the three

    R'S of learning Colossians 1:13 receive, Thessalonians 3;10 Put the new man in the mind retain then Phil. 2:16 release or hold it forth.The battle is always words Gods thoughts His word like Phil.4:8+9 life giving or or the lies of the enemy. That's why the key to walking with God via the spirit is renewed mind daily based on Gods word. Our minds don't change over night that's the work and it never ends. The only man that ever lived on earth with a completely whole mind or sound mind is Jesus Christ.

    P.s. remember we were born into a corrput word and only had our 5 senses as information now we have holy spirit which is

    info from God which is always true. That's why I said the more you retain that's work the knowledge of God 2 Peter 1:1-8

    constantly says through the of God and our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
  • Ronnette - In Reply on Acts 1 - 2 years ago
    Dear 17sharp:

    Stay with prayers and supplication and reading the Bible. A person who truly seek the truth will be guided by the Holy Spirit. Romans 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; Colossians 1:27 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:

    Acts 20:28-32

    Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood. For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. Therefore watch, and remember, that by the space of three years I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears. And now, brethren, I commend you to God, and to the word of his grace, which is able to build you up, and to give you an inheritance among all them which are sanctified.

    Revelation 18:4

    And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. Agape.
  • Adam - In Reply on John 20 - 2 years ago
    Hello, John chapter 1 explains and answers all these questions:

    John 1:14-15 reveals that Jesus is called the "Word."

    John 1:1 says "Word was with God, and the Word was God." this means that Jesus was with God, and Jesus was God.

    John 1:3 says "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." This means that all things were made by Jesus, and without Jesus nothing was made.

    The common misunderstanding is that Jesus temporarily came to earth and while fully God, became fully man and appeared to allow Himself to be limited as a man. So, most people analyze His behavior as a temporary man and draw assumptions from it: like how can He pray to Himself? etc.

    John 1:9-10 - talks about Jesus, also called the "Light" coming to earth.

    Philippians 2:6-7 - to me this means that Jesus wasn't concerned about His power being lessor or limited as a temporary man.

    Luke 2:52 - Jesus put Himself in a position of a man to grow in wisdom and maturity.

    So, all of your quotes are while Jesus was in a temporary limited state as a man on earth.

    You wrote: "Inconceivable if he is God the Creator." It's not inconceivable because the Bible literally says Jesus created everything in John 1:3.

    If this isn't convincing enough there are more verses saying the same thing:

    Colossians 1:15-17

    Hebrews 1:2

    1 Corinthians 8:6

    Jesus literally created you!
  • OLD MAN WILSON - In Reply - 2 years ago
    One Eighty:

    God is Spirit, no beginning and no end, CANNOT be seen, touched, felt, etc.

    The Father wanted to be KNOWN, seen, touched, etc., available to the senses.

    The Father created a IMMORTAL BODY, and God (SPIRIT, LIFE) put HIMSELF in that Body, and he called that BODY the MAN JESUS CHRIST.

    Christ the Boby of God, the Father, no beginning no end, the First and the Last.

    Christ, THE BODY, can do nothing of itself, it's the FATHER in that BODY, that does everything.

    And The Father sent Jesus Christ THE MAN to MULTIPLY HIMSELF. The FIRSTBORN among many brethren.

    Bodies of men, THAT CAN DO NOTHING OF ITSELF, that exist, and does the work, of CHRIST, by that LIFE OF CHRIST. This was all made possible by the death of the flesh and blood body on the cross and the RESURRECTION of the flesh and bone (IMMORTAL) body of Christ.

    This is what WE ARE: BODIES that exist, and do the WORKS OF CHRIST; by the LIFE OF CHRIST.

    We were put in a body of flesh and bone; FIRST, so we could come to this KNOWLEDGE.

    Ephesians 4:4 ONE BODY (man).....ONE SPIRIT (GOD)(LIFE) ...

    Ephesians 4:6 ONE GOD .....FATHER OF ALL .....

    Colossians 1:27 ....this mystery ...Christ in you (his body)

    Philippians 2:13 For it is God (Christ in you) that WORKETH both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

    THY WILL BE DONE

    God Bless YOU.
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Yes, we are essentially spirits. But to live on this Earth that God has given us & to enjoy its blessings, God has given us a body (both for visibility & for being human). John 1:1-14 tells us that the Word was with God & was God - that Word was made flesh (human). John chapter 1 speaks of Jesus, God's Word made flesh, to fulfil the Purposes of God for fallen humanity. There was no other reason for such an 'incarnation', for the Word & the Spirit are eternally part of the Godhead & each member functioned as purposed by God.

    God does not have a body. John 4:24, "God is Spirit". But God has manifested Himself in the flesh in Jesus, His Son incarnate. One disciple, Philip, asked Jesus, "shew us the Father, and it sufficeth us".

    Jesus answered him, " Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father? Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake."

    This does not mean that Jesus, in the flesh, looks the same as the Father, but Jesus' very works, His Life, & His Words, reveal the Person of God. So when we look at Jesus' Life, we are seeing the exact image of God, for how else can we describe the image of a spirit? Colossians 1:15: 'Jesus is the image of the invisible God'.

    We are all spirits (our true essence), clothed with a body. Once our bodies perish, our spirits, which can never die, are released to live on into eternity. Therefore, Jesus had to come to give His Life for us, so that if we believe in Him, calling upon His Name, the Father seals us as His & receives us into His family. If we refuse Him, only punishment remains. How we respond to God's Love in Jesus determines where our spirits will finally spend eternity.
  • Ronnette - In Reply on Romans 15 - 2 years ago
    Hello Giannis:

    I agree with your first sentence. To add, Jesus said "But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Matthew 15:24 KJV. During Jesus Christ on earth He commanded His Disciples in Matthew 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:

    6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Jesus was preaching the gospel of the Kingdom of Heaven. Had the Jews recognized their King..could of, would of, should of. But they killed their Messiah. Your second sentence is half correct. Jesus Christ had chosen Paul to be the twelfth apostle with a purpose to tell us Gentiles more detail what happened during his dispensation. The word dispensation can only be found 4X in Paul's epistles: 1 Corinthians 9:17

    For if I do this thing willingly, I have a reward: but if against my will, a dispensation of the gospel is committed unto me.

    Ephesians 3:2

    If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:

    Colossians 1:25

    Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;

    Ephesians 1:10

    That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:

    These verses proved to me that when Paul told us to "divide the word of truth" means that God speaks to different people in different times. Meaning Dispensation. Therefore, some verses of the Bible applies only to the Jews and only to Gentiles and some applies both to Jews and Gentiles in different times as "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets," Hebrews 1:1 KJV. Paul is our Apostle today. His dispensation of Grace is critical for today's salvation. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. Agape.
  • OLD MAN WILSON - In Reply on Susanna 1 - 2 years ago
    Amen Jackie:

    God uses parables, and symbolism through his word.

    We, through the working or the Holy Spirit, have to break down the symbolism to make all scriptures agree with themselves.

    Psalms 19:1 The heavens show his handy work ....

    John 3:13 No man has ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is IN HEAVEN.

    Colossians 1:27 ....this mystery ....CHRIST IN YOU ....

    YOU and I (the heavens) show his handy work and glory

    Psalms 19:2 Day unto day uttereth speech, night unto night sheweth knowledge.

    Literal day cannot speak, nor literal night show knowledge.

    You and I speak, by the working of the Holy Spirit.

    Psalms 12:4 Who have said, With our tongue we shall prevail, our lips are our own, who is Lord over us.

    Philippians 2:13 For it is God that WORKETH IN YOU (this mystery, Christ in you) both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

    Psalms 139:12 Yea the darkness hideth not from thee; but the night shineth as the day: the darkness and the light are both alike to thee.

    Psalms 19:4 Their (speech and knowledge)(Christ in you) line have gone through out all the earth, and their word (Christ in you), in them (You and I) (Christ in you) he hath set a tabernacle (you are the temple of God 1 Corinthians 3:16) for the SUN (the Father).

    Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple there in: For the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the TEMPLE OF IT (Christ in you).

    Psalms 19:5 Which as a bridegroom cometh out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.

    Isaiah 61:10 I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul (body, Christ in you) shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation (Christ in you), he hath covered (blood of Christ) me with the rob of righteousness (Christ in you), as a BRIDEGROOM decketh himself with ornaments (Christ in you), and as a BRIDE (You and I) adorneth herself WITH HER JEWELS (Christ in you).

    I'm out of characters I hope you see the picture.

    God bless you.
  • OLD MAN WILSON - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Sister Barbara:

    Is she mixed up:

    Colossians 1:27 ...this mystery ..... CHRIST IN YOU ....

    Christ CAME THE SECOND TIME at pentecost; in SPIRIT, as the Holy Ghost.

    Hebrews 9:28 So, Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many (first coming, as flesh), and unto them that look for him (as a thief in the night) he shall appear the SECOND TIME (unseen like a thief, as the Holy Ghost) without SIN UNTO SALVATION.

    Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD (the life of the body) that WORKETH in you (his body) both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

    Revelation 20:6 Blesses and HOLY (Christ in you) is he (the body of Christ) that hath part in the FIRST RESURRECTION ..

    John 11:25 ....I am THE RESURRECTION, and the LIFE, he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall HE LIVE.

    CHRIST IN YOU.

    1 John 2:27 The anointing (THE LIFE) in you ....... will teach you ALL THINGS .......

    Colossians 3:3 For ye are DEAD, and your LIFE is HID with Christ in God.

    Christ blood COVERS our sins, to REPENT means to change your way of thinking, or your beliefs.

    It takes lots of studying God's word and lots of repenting in the way, and things, we believe.

    God Bless you.
  • Old man Wilson - In Reply on Mark 1 - 2 years ago
    Ron:

    Psalms 78:2 I will open my (God the word's) mouth in a PARABLE

    The tree OF KNOWLEDGE of good and evil.

    The fruit of that tree IS KNOWLEDGE of good and evil.

    You are the garden of Eden; the tree of knowledge of good and evil is in you, and when you come to TRUTH, then you also come to THE KNOWLEDGE that the TREE OF LIFE is also IN YOU. BUT: Cherub with sword's of FIRE surround the TREE OF LIFE; so you are going to have to go through FIRE to partake of the fruit of the TREE OF LIFE.

    Ezekiel 31:9 I (the Father) have made him (Christ) fair by the multitude of his BRANCHES (you and I): so all the trees of Eden (you and I), that were in the garden of God (you and I), envied him (Christ).

    Colossians 1:27 ....this mystery .....Christ in you .....

    Ezekiel 29:49 Then said I, Ah Lord GOD, they say of me, doth he not speak in PARABLES.

    God Bless You.
  • PROPHECY - 2 years ago
    GOD IS LIFE and LIFE IS GOD

    The BODY is only a vessel that holds THE LIFE OF GOD.

    When the body DIES (the wages of sin is death: Romans 6:23) it returns to the dust from whence it came.

    Ecclesiastes 3:20 ALL go unto one place; for all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.

    Job 34:15 ALL FLESH shall perish together and man shall turn again into dust.

    Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit (LIFE) shall return unto God who gave it.

    Ephesians 4:4 ONE SPIRIT .....one LIFE

    1 Corinthians 15:38 For God giveth it (the new creation, YOU, Christ resurrected) a body as it hath pleased him, and to every SEED his (Christ's) own BODY.

    Ephesians 4:4 ONE BODY ....

    HELL (Hades) is the grave, where men, the dust of the earth go.

    The NEW MAN goes to the presence of God, the Father. as the BODY of Christ resurrected.

    Ephesians 4:6 ONE GOD and FATHER OF ALL .......

    Revelation 20:6 Blesses and HOLY is he (the new creation) who hath part in the FIRST RESURRECTION.

    Matthew 16:24 .....DENY YOURSELF ......

    Colossians 1:27 .....this mystery ......CHRIST IN YOU ..... you the body (of Christ).

    John 17:21 That they (new creation) may be ONE, as thou Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they (new creation) may be ONE IN US ....

    Revelation 12:2 And SHE (the church, Christ's bride) being with child (the new man) cried, travailing in BIRTH, and pained to BE DELIVERED.

    Whosoever BELIEVES SHALL (at the death of this body of flesh) BE SAVED ....... DELIVERED.

    May God give us eyes to see and ears to hear.

    God BLESS.
  • Gods of this world - In Reply on Genesis 3 - 2 years ago
    Wina

    Satan walks upright on two legs today, the same as in the time of Adam and Eve.

    Who is the most subtil of all the beast of the field that God hath made, that walks on two legs?

    Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.

    Job 1:7 And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord and said, from walking to and fro in the earth, and walking up and down in it.

    2 Samuel 24:1 And again the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go number Israel and Judah.

    1 Chronicles 21:1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel.

    Ephesians 2:2 Wherein time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air (Satan), the spirit that now worketh in the children of obedience:

    Matthew 12:28 But if I CAST OUT (of you) devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come unto you.

    Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was CAST OUT, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world was CAST OUT ......

    Colossians 1:27 ....this mystery .....Christ in you.

    God Bless You.
  • THE BODY OF CHRIST - 2 years ago
    SOUL AND BODY ARE THE SAME THING

    Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man out of the dust of the ground ....

    Man, as well as all creatures, is only a body.

    ....and breathed into them the breath of life, and man became a living soul.

    The soul, or body, has no life outside of the breath and life of God.

    Colossians 1:27 ...this mystery ....Christ in you ....

    John 20:22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said unto them, Receive the Holy Ghost.

    1 Corinthians 12:27 Now ye are the body of Christ .......

    John 14:6 ....I am the life .....

    God Bless You.


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