So, I found a Church that teaches the total Depravity of man, the Doctrines of Grace, correctly teaches the Trinity, Three who are One, not One who can become Three, teaches that Jesus Christ is 100% God and 100% man, correctly teaches what the role of The Holy Spirit is, convicting of sin and righteousness, correctly teaches the gifts of the Holy Spirit, teach that the Miraculous gifts of the Apostles have ceased, teaches Baptism by submersion and that baptism is not an act that must be done to be saved, but a command to be obeyed to show one's new life in Christ, teaches that their are no Apostles today, no new revelation or prophetic words being given to a select few, but that the Word of God is sufficient, and that the 66 books that make up the Holy Bible are in fact Inerrant, infallible, and in fact sufficient to learn and obey the One and only God as revealed in its pages from Genesis to Revelation. This Church holds to the 1689 London Baptist Confession of Faith and Westminster Confession of Faith, and finally, it teaches the command of our Lord to assemble together in corporate worship and giving of ourselves with our time, talents, and spiritual gifts for the building up of the Saints. This is a Church, though not perfect, one sure seriously consider attending.
I found another Church that holds to all that is listed above, and has a female pastor.
As my last posting stated unregenerate man in the accounts of the Kings of Israel and in fact from Genesis to Revelation demonstrates nothing but evil. Genesis 6:5 shows that the ACTIONS of men when they were fully demonstrated led to judgment as it will when the wickedness is fully ripe such as with grapes when they are treaded under the winepress of God's wrath in Revelation 19 and other prophetic related scriptures.
As C.S. Lewis indicated Christ was either a lunatic; a liar or THE TRUTH. His words are piercing; but so is all scripture describing the state of man who desperately needs a Savior. Bad news has to be understood before the Good News in regard to our state; not that every detail needs to be understood but enough exposed; which only the Spirit can reveal to a man.
Thus scripture is either a great moral lesson or THE truth for someone; it is either an entertaining mystical adventure or it leads us to the conclusion that it is either heaven or hell for us. The natural tendency is to use scripture to justify ourselves; we have all heard the analogy "I am better than Hitler; or a serial killer; blah blah". We could say the "Devil made me do it" rather than attesting to the cause of our misery is our own sin that allows the enemy to wreak havoc on our lives. The Devil can be allowed to do all sorts of things but can't force us to sin. Truth be told we are in sin all the time if we aren't alive in Christ but the enemy wants to find a way to kill steal and destroy. We dare not take Satan as a joke either but scripture makes a true believer victorious and courageous (bold as a lion) ( Prov. 28:1). Preaching to myself here...
My final thought at present is that for the Ephesians 6 type believer we wield the sword of power based on Scripture; not on some esoteric experience. Only when the Lord is truly showing us something that is scriptural does it benefit us; the Word helps us to see what is of God; man or Satan.
Thank you, I do not mind discussing this topic as you mentioned Hebrews 1:8 and John 17. The reason is that it can create tensions, as many consider it non-debatable and inappropriate for discussion. While there are some denominations labeled as cults, I do not support, or have any part in. We should inspire one another to pray and study God's word with love and a sincere desire for truth, from Genesis to Revelation, acknowledging that all that was, and is, and is to be, was before the world was.
In Christianity, the belief in the immortality of the soul has been influenced by ancient Greek philosophy, especially the teachings of two notable philosophers, Socrates and Plato. This philosophy views death as the separation of the soul from the body. Plato described the body as a prison for the soul and saw death as a means of freeing the soul.
This philosophy of death started blending in the church in the second-third century, some saying the good souls go to heaven, but the bad souls go to hell. Augustine of Hippo, a theologian and philosopher who was made a saint, held this philosophy, strongly influencing the doctrines in the church in the fourth and early fifth centuries, and later John Calvin taught it.
Some interpret 2 Corinthians 5:6-9 to mean that when we die, we go to be present with the Lord. This interpretation is also linked to Ecclesiastes 12:6-7, this is not dependent on salvation, all human spirits, regardless if the person is saved or not, return to God because the spirit in man comes from God, Job 32:8, Zachariah 12:1.
The soul: The Bible does not teach that the soul is immortal, but in Ezekiel 18:20, all souls are God's, and the soul that sinneth shall die, in Matthew 10:28, hell is the Word Gehenna which refers to the Lake of Fire. As written in the Bible, in Genesis 2:7, when God formed Adam out of the dust of the ground and with the breath of life from God, Adam became a living soul, that is all of Adam, the complete identity of Adam, including consciousness, desires, and emotions.
When God breathed into Adam the breath of life, and he became a living soul/being. The Hebrew word for soul is nephesh, which means a breathing creature, not a spiritual entity. It can describe a person's soul, life, mind, will, and even our body, not one thing, but the whole of the person, the true self. 1 Peter 3:20, eight souls were saved. Acts 2:43, Romans 13:1
Genesis 3:15 - And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Genesis 12:3 - And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
Genesis 22:18 - And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.
Jeremiah 31:33 - But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Mark 12:29-31 - And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
30, And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
31, And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
Acts 17:11 - These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
1 Corinthians 13:13 - And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
1 Corinthians 15:1-4 - Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2, By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3, For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4, And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Hello sir, from your words it sounds like you already decided what you believe before you look into it. You say interpreters added their own thoughts in italics and I wonder where does such an assumption come from? Sometimes articles like "the" or "a" are needed to complete the translation and they indicate that with brackets or italics. The fact that its being presented in the first place shows more transparency. Other Bibles don't indicate that. There is no word-for-word language translation, you end up missing words and would be incomplete and grammatically incorrect sentences. You can even do a Google Translate of basic words and you might input 4 words and get 3 words back, or vice versa. It doesn't mean there's a grand conspiracy to deceive you and it doesn't mean the devil is behind it. I would suggest studying any foreign language and you will learn more about how translations occur. I looked at the FAQ and saw this below. You can see in the examples "that" was used to complete the translation which is just following English rules, or "it was". I don't think the devil is behind a big conspiracy to make it grammatically correct and clear to readers. The fact that the translators were this transparent shows how careful and forthcoming they were. Also, all of this can be checked anytime against the original Greek/Hebrew so its not like anyone is able to get away with sneaking extra words in.
Q: What do the words in italics or [brackets] mean?
A: These are words the translators added from the Hebrew and Greek to make the English complete. It is also seen in italics in some Bibles.
Examples:
Genesis 1:10
And God called the dry [land] Earth; and the gathering together of
the waters called he Seas: and God saw that [it was] good.
Proverbs 30:11
[There is] a generation [that] curseth their father, and doth not bless
their mother.
Romans 6:5
For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall
I found another Church that holds to all that is listed above, and has a female pastor.
What Church was KJV only?
As C.S. Lewis indicated Christ was either a lunatic; a liar or THE TRUTH. His words are piercing; but so is all scripture describing the state of man who desperately needs a Savior. Bad news has to be understood before the Good News in regard to our state; not that every detail needs to be understood but enough exposed; which only the Spirit can reveal to a man.
Thus scripture is either a great moral lesson or THE truth for someone; it is either an entertaining mystical adventure or it leads us to the conclusion that it is either heaven or hell for us. The natural tendency is to use scripture to justify ourselves; we have all heard the analogy "I am better than Hitler; or a serial killer; blah blah". We could say the "Devil made me do it" rather than attesting to the cause of our misery is our own sin that allows the enemy to wreak havoc on our lives. The Devil can be allowed to do all sorts of things but can't force us to sin. Truth be told we are in sin all the time if we aren't alive in Christ but the enemy wants to find a way to kill steal and destroy. We dare not take Satan as a joke either but scripture makes a true believer victorious and courageous (bold as a lion) ( Prov. 28:1). Preaching to myself here...
My final thought at present is that for the Ephesians 6 type believer we wield the sword of power based on Scripture; not on some esoteric experience. Only when the Lord is truly showing us something that is scriptural does it benefit us; the Word helps us to see what is of God; man or Satan.
Thank you, I do not mind discussing this topic as you mentioned Hebrews 1:8 and John 17. The reason is that it can create tensions, as many consider it non-debatable and inappropriate for discussion. While there are some denominations labeled as cults, I do not support, or have any part in. We should inspire one another to pray and study God's word with love and a sincere desire for truth, from Genesis to Revelation, acknowledging that all that was, and is, and is to be, was before the world was.
God bless,
RLW
Part 1
In Christianity, the belief in the immortality of the soul has been influenced by ancient Greek philosophy, especially the teachings of two notable philosophers, Socrates and Plato. This philosophy views death as the separation of the soul from the body. Plato described the body as a prison for the soul and saw death as a means of freeing the soul.
This philosophy of death started blending in the church in the second-third century, some saying the good souls go to heaven, but the bad souls go to hell. Augustine of Hippo, a theologian and philosopher who was made a saint, held this philosophy, strongly influencing the doctrines in the church in the fourth and early fifth centuries, and later John Calvin taught it.
Some interpret 2 Corinthians 5:6-9 to mean that when we die, we go to be present with the Lord. This interpretation is also linked to Ecclesiastes 12:6-7, this is not dependent on salvation, all human spirits, regardless if the person is saved or not, return to God because the spirit in man comes from God, Job 32:8, Zachariah 12:1.
The soul: The Bible does not teach that the soul is immortal, but in Ezekiel 18:20, all souls are God's, and the soul that sinneth shall die, in Matthew 10:28, hell is the Word Gehenna which refers to the Lake of Fire. As written in the Bible, in Genesis 2:7, when God formed Adam out of the dust of the ground and with the breath of life from God, Adam became a living soul, that is all of Adam, the complete identity of Adam, including consciousness, desires, and emotions.
When God breathed into Adam the breath of life, and he became a living soul/being. The Hebrew word for soul is nephesh, which means a breathing creature, not a spiritual entity. It can describe a person's soul, life, mind, will, and even our body, not one thing, but the whole of the person, the true self. 1 Peter 3:20, eight souls were saved. Acts 2:43, Romans 13:1
See part 2
Genesis 3:15 - And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Genesis 12:3 - And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
Genesis 22:18 - And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.
Jeremiah 31:33 - But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Mark 12:29-31 - And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
30, And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
31, And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
Acts 17:11 - These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
1 Corinthians 13:13 - And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
1 Corinthians 15:1-4 - Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2, By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3, For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4, And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Q: What do the words in italics or [brackets] mean?
A: These are words the translators added from the Hebrew and Greek to make the English complete. It is also seen in italics in some Bibles.
Examples:
Genesis 1:10
And God called the dry [land] Earth; and the gathering together of
the waters called he Seas: and God saw that [it was] good.
Proverbs 30:11
[There is] a generation [that] curseth their father, and doth not bless
their mother.
Romans 6:5
For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall
be also [in the likeness] of [his] resurrection:
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