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  • Leah Marie Leonetti - 2 years ago
    We are special!

    This is how i see it, Since The Lord Jesus died and bled for all humanity

    (every person there is) does that not make us special?

    For anyone to think that it was for one single person or race, that would be wrong.

    He rose from the dead/the flesh of sin and death.

    For His Righteousness

    His Forgiveness

    His Grace

    His Will

    His Spirit

    A Free Gift for everyone

    I believe a true Christian/saint are those who are saved solely by The Blood of Jesus Christ

    by His Good work for us.

    Are there mistakes in The KJV? Grave mistakes!

    See Jude 1:4 you cannot change a Holy thing into a bad thing, it should say, they exchanged

    The Grace of God for.....

    (or they left a good thing for a bad thing)

    Also in Romans 1:23 and 25

    Psalms 4:2

    See Mark 3:30

    Also in Galations 3:13 Should say "being made a sacrifice for us", not a curse.

    See also 1 Corinthians 12:3; Matt. 12:32

    Also 2 Corinthians 4:10 the dying of our flesh; see Heb 10:10 He died once

    2 Cor. 5:21 Our Sacrifice for sin- He hath made Him "A Sacrifice for us"

    Only The Holy Spirit can work miracles- so in Rev.13:14; Rev. 16:14; Rev. 19:21 should say signs and wonders.

    See Matt. 24:24 or even schemes (Gog)

    Also in 2 Thess. 2:9 should say, "with all deceivableness", instead of power.

    See 2 Thess. 2:10

    In order to find mistakes in bibles, i believe, you need to find other scriptures to back it up.

    I in no way want to add or take from His Word wrongfully in any way, shape or form.

    I also do not believe that Jesus had long hair or looked like a hippy;

    He is Risen from the flesh, He is not in pictures.

    He comes in Spirit in us.

    God Bless!
  • Tina - In Reply on Romans 7 - 2 years ago
    Jude 1:20

    How do you pray in the Holy Spirit?
  • T. Levis - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 4 - 2 years ago
    1Corinthians 4, understanding 1st pray & read: James 1:5,

    1Corinthians 4:1 "Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of CHRIST, and the stewards of the mysteries of GOD." references: Mark 4:11, in context Mark 4:1-34, Romans 11:25, Romans 16:25-27, Ephesians 3, Revelation 10:7, some Old Testament references: Isaiah 53, Psalms 22, Zechariah 13:6, Leviticus 16:17, John 19,

    Romans 14:12 : reference for several

    1Corinthians 4:2, references: Titus 1:7,

    1Corinthians 4:3-4, ref: Romans 8:33, Isaiah 50:8, Jude 1:24-25, Romans 14:13, Psalms 98:9,

    1Corinthians 4:5, ref: Matthew 25:31-46, Hebrews 10:30, 2Thessalonians 2,

    1Corinthians 4:6,7,8, ref: 1Corinthians 12, Deuteronomy 8:18, Psalms 75:6-7, John 19:11,

    1Corinthians 4:9-14, Hebrews 11,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Brother Carl - In Reply on Romans 7 - 2 years ago
    The outward man is the flesh:

    For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

    Rom 2:28 (KJV)

    But the inward man is the Spirit:

    But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

    Rom 2:29 (KJV)

    We perfect holiness in the fear of God (Afraid to Sin) by cleansing ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit:

    Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

    2 Cor 7:1 (KJV)

    This cleansing is done with washing by the word of God:

    That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,

    Eph 5:26 (KJV)

    Man is spirit, soul and body which must be blameless when JESUS CHRIST comes back:

    And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    1 Ths 5:23 (KJV)

    The Spirit of man is the Candle of the Lord, searching all the inward parts of the belly - Proverbs 20:27

    The washing of the regeneration is with the renewing of the Holy Ghost - Titus 3:5

    Building up your most holy faith praying in the holy ghost - Jude 1:20

    This way the inward man is renewed day by day.

    For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day.

    2 Cor 4:16 (KJV)

    JESUS CHRIST bless you.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    I've heard it explained it was a perversion thing. Note they were adults, Genesis 6:18, Genesis 7:7,13, Genesis 8:16,18,

    Genesis 9:22, honestly ask yourself would you go tell others? Or cover? Who showed their father honor? Genesis 9:23

    Noah, "knew what his younger son had done to him." Genesis 9:24, it wasn't that he just saw.

    There's additional information, to help readers understand, Genesis 9:18, Genesis 9:22, Genesis 9:25, Genesis 10:15, note Canaan, 1st recorded rape of a girl Genesis 33:18, Genesis 34:1-2, & Sodom & Gomorrah, Genesis 10:19, Genesis 13:13, Genesis 18:20, Genesis 18, Gen. 19,

    Isaiah 3:9, Jeremiah 23:14, Ezekiel 16:49, Jude 1:7, it appears to point to a root of evil started with that person.

    Hopefully this is helpful
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Here are scripture links about Jesus CHRIST ministry, the Bible however indicates HIS open ministry longer than a year on earth.

    Luke 3:23, people take that scripture & add holidays & other events to draw a timeline.

    It doesn't actually say that Jesus CHRIST ministry is/was limited to just those years of HIS open ministry because it's everlasting. Luke 1, John 1:1-5, Luke 2:42-50, John 8:58, 1Corinthians 15:47-58, Ephesians 3:9-11, Titus 3:7, John 3:15, Hebrews 5:9, Jude 1:21, Romans 6:23, Romans 5:21, John 17:3, 2Timothy 2:10, 2Corinthians 5:1, 1John 5:11, John 10:28, 1John 5:20,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • RichFairhurst on Hebrews 11 - 2 years ago
    (Originally posted under wrong verse, should be Hebrews 11:5-7)


    Genesis 5:21-22

    Hebrews 11:5-6

    Jude 1:14-15


    Genesis 6:1 through Genesis 9:29

    Matthew 24:37-39

    Luke 17:26-30

    Hebrews 11:7

    1 Peter 3:19-20

    2 Peter 2:5

    2 Peter 3:3-7

    Whether or not a person acknowledges it, Enoch and Noah are fathers to every man, woman and child living today. However, without saving faith they will only be fathers according to the flesh to our generation. That genetic relationship will be undeniably proven before God, but it will not only profit us nothing, it will actually make anyone in our generation more guilty than the people in theirs if they mock or ignore the testimony concerning them in these last days without repenting and believing in Jesus Christ as they did. We need to carefully consider and draw both encouragement and warning from their examples of faith if we want to share any of the benefits of the heritage they have left us.

    Jesus Christ is the one who will catch us up to be with Him, like He did Enoch, if we are confirmed by the Holy Spirit to be those who please Him and His Father. He is also the unexpected Bridegroom who will close the wedding feast door that lets in the prepared wise virgins but shuts out the unprepared foolish virgins where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth, like He closed the door of the Ark that Noah prepared behind him and his household, shutting out those who were unprepared outside.

    Although no one should count on it, if in His grace the Father continues to patiently wait beyond our short lives to send Christ with His holy angels for the final harvest, we still must hold to the fear of the LORD we see in these two ancestors of ours and uphold their testimony so that we may be partakers with them in the pleasure the Father has in their faith and the faith of all those mentioned in this chapter of Hebrews. That is one of the ways we will be able to add our own testimony of faith to theirs.
  • T Levis - In Reply on 2 Timothy 4 - 2 years ago
    As opposed to what? Destroying the evil? Genesis 6:5-6,11,12, He did that in Noah's day: Genesis 6:7-9, Genesis chapters 6-9,

    Genesis 8:21-22, Gen. 9:9-17, therefore HE made a covenant of mercy. Yet HE also makes promises of giving an "account"

    Genesis 9:5-6, Psalms 37, Isaiah 61:3, Romans 12:9, Hebrews 10:30, Jude 1:7,

    It's like this Genesis: GOD gave dominion to man over the Earth, including sea. Gen. 1:28, It's a ' stewardship ' that all men will give an account for. Matthew 25:31-46, yet the Earth still belongs to GOD : 1Corinthains 10:26,

    GOD gave Moses a set of "Best Laws" That if people obeyed, would cut down on suffering. Instead many have rebelliously rejected, mocked & ignored & refusal to enforce. Whose then to blame for suffering in consequence? Proverbs 3:27,

    I think it amazing that GOD intervenes on our behalf so many times. Exodus 3:9, Psalms 12:5,

    & ultimately gave us Salvation John 3:16-18, Ecclesiastes 5:8,

    Hopefully this is helpful
  • Charles Robert Northup - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Followers of Nicolas a proselyte of Antioch: The perverse mixing of idol worship, sacrificing to idols of food and perverse sex acts combined after He was one of the 7 who were of Stephen appointed to wait tables to serve the widows in the church he is mentioned in Acts 6:5 Paul wrote that some who were of us went out from among us.

    Smith's Bible Dictionary


    (followers of Nicolas) a sect mentioned in Revelation 2:6; 2:15 whose deeds were strongly condemned. They may have been identical with those who held the doctrine of Balaam. They seem to have held that it was lawful to eat things sacrificed to idols, and to commit fornication, in opposition to the decree of the Church rendered in Acts 15:20; 15:29. The teachers of the Church branded them with a name which expressed their true character. The men who did and taught such things were followers of Balaam ( 2 Peter 2:15; Jude 1:11). They, like the false prophet of Pethor, united brave words with evil deeds. In a time of persecution, when the eating or not eating of things sacrificed to idols was more than ever a crucial test of faithfulness, they persuaded men more than ever that was a thing indifferent ( Revelation 2:13-14). This was bad enough, but there was a yet worse evil. Mingling themselves in the orgies of idolatrous feasts, they brought the impurities of those feasts into the meetings of the Christian Church. And all this was done, it must be remembered not simply as an indulgence of appetite: but as a part of a system, supported by a "doctrine," accompanied by the boast of a prophetic illumination ( 2 Peter 2:1). It confirms the view which has been taken of their character to find that stress is laid in the first instance on the "deeds" of the Nicolaitans. To hate those deeds is a sign of life in a Church that otherwise is weak and faithless ( Revelation 2:6). To tolerate them is well nigh to forfeit the glory of having been faithful under persecution ( Revelation 2:14-15).
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    John 3:16; John 5:24; John 6:37-40,47; John 10:27-29; Romans 6:23; Romans 8:38,39; 2 Corinthians 1:22; Ephesians 1:13; Ephesians 2:8; Ephesians 4:30; Hebrews 13:5; 1 John 5:11-13; Jude 1:24 - are a few examples, all promising the true child of God that his/her salvation is secure forever.

    Yet 1 John 3:7-10 reveals the two-faced 'Christian': having every appearance of serving God, but has sin dominating his life; living carelessly & not carefully.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Deuteronomy 28, note: Deuteronomy 28:58, Deuteronomy 28:15, Deuteronomy 28:28, Matthew 15:22-28, Matthew 17:14-21, Mark 5:2-13, Mark 7:27-30, Luke 4:33-43, Luke 8:26-40, Luke 9:35-50, Acts 10:38, James 4:7, 1John 3:8, Jude 1:9,

    Deuteronomy 28:1-14, Exodus 23:25, Matthew 4:23,

    Luke 9:55-56,

    Jeremiah 32:27, Jeremiah 32:17, Luke 1:37,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • T. Levis - In Reply on 3 John 1 - 2 years ago
    Genesis 4, Genesis 5, Hebrews 11:5, Jude 1:14, KJV
  • Jessyca - 2 years ago
    In response to "John J"

    There are many sins! Idolatry, Fornication, Witchcraft, Pride, etc... All of these sins fall under three areas LUST OF THE FLESH,LUST OF THE EYES, AND THE PRIDE OF LIFE | 1 John 2:16|! They are not all classified as stealing! But what they are classified as are sins against a Holy and Righteous God AND transgression of the LAW | 1 John 3:4|!

    With that said ALL the sins in God's Word minus one are forgivable...The only unforgivable sin in God's eyes is denying Christ Jesus! | Matthew 10:33| Jude 1:4 | Proverbs 30| Which is blasphemy of the Holy Ghost! | Matthew 12:31| This is saying that Christ Jesus did not die on the cross and send us the Comforter! The Holy Ghost is our Comforter!

    We must be born again for our sins to be washed away | John 3:7 |

    I noticed one of the comments state there are "7 deadly sins" God says ALL sin causes DEATH! | Romans 5:12| It says there in Romans that death passed upon ALL men! This is our physical death...But there is DEATH beyond our physical DEATH and that is an eternity in HELL the SECOND death this is spoken of in Revelation | Revelation 20:14| This second death is for those that have not been SAVED by the Grace of God through FAITH in Christ Jesus...causing BLASPHEMY of the HOLY GHOST!
  • Ian - 2 years ago
    Jessie, re your comment on Paul praying in the spirit and praying with his mind.

    Read from 1Cor 14:2, "The one speaking in a tongue, does NOT speak to men but TO GOD, for none hears (in the sense of understands) but in the SPIRIT he speaks mysteries. So Paul, when he speaks in a tongue to God, given by the Holy Spirit, he speaks mysteries. (mysteries are things that are not known - understood)

    v4- "the one speaking in a tongue (unlearned) builds himself up. This is where Jude 1:20 comes in. He builds himself up in his spirit, where his most holy faith is situated.

    He goes on to explain that in a meeting of believers it is important for all to understand what is spoken; so, if an unknown is spoken publicly in a gathering their needs to be an interpretation given. But if there is no one who has such a gift then the one show speaks in an unknown tongue should do so quietly without interrupting anyone's concerntration to understand the lingua franca.

    Paul did not rebuke them for speaking in unlearned langauges given by the Holy Spirit, but only because they were disorderly in their expression of that gift; they were excited without consdiering others present.

    so he says - "Seek to build each OTHER up".

    Then in v 14 he says For if I pray in a tongue (given by the Holy Spirit; he is speaking about gifts given by the Holy Spirit not languages learned by men), my spirit prays, but my mind (my 'nous' - understanding) is unfruitful.

    And finally in v 28 - "And if there is NO interpreter (one who has been given the gift of interpretating a tongue from the Holy Spirit) let him be silent (inaudible) in the assembly, and let him speak to himself (build his own faith up) and to God."

    Paul is talking about gifts given by the Holy Spirit.

    The ability to speak in 'tongues' is for private edification - unless there is an interpretor present - in which case all can benefit from the interpretation given.

    peace in Jesus
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Leviticus 1, the several books of Leviticus points out the laws, you can continue through each of them & find the laws you're referring to.

    Genesis 9:22-27, Genesis 13:13, Genesis 18:20,21,22, Genesis 19, Revelations 11:8,

    2 Peter 2:1-15, Jude 1:7-25, Isaiah 3:9, Jeremiah 23:14, Romans 1:18-32,

    Galatians 5:16,

    Hopefully these are helpful in your study.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Job 1 - 2 years ago
    Son's of GOD = 1 John 4:15, Galatians 4:7, 1 John 5:10, Ezra 3:2, Hebrews 12:7, Revelation 21:7, 1 Timothy 1:2, 1 Corinthians 6:2-3,

    Jesus CHRIST the MESSIAH referred to the most as Son of GOD. Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Acts, Romans, Hebrews, etc.

    Luke 3:38,

    * Romans 8:14, * Hebrews 1:13-14,

    I understand "Son's of GOD presented themselves before GOD" to mean= they prayed notice Job 1:5, "offered burnt offerings" then vrs. 6._._._ the accuser came, Revelation 12:10,

    Genesis 4:26, Luke 3:38,

    Exodus 34:2, Leviticus 14:11, Leviticus 16:28, 1 Samuel 10:19, Daniel 9:18, Luke 2:22, Romans 12:1, Jude 1:24-25,
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Matthew 14:30 - 2 years ago

    1. Yes I believe in some ways our faith may be considered more complicated because they being with Jesus " physically " John 3:12, John 14:11, yet scripture says : 2 Chronicles 20:20, we have so many accumulated testimonies, prophecy fulfilled, the written WORD of GOD from many generations past in many ways we have all that to help build upon our faith. Then we have personal experiences & witness of miraculous events in our present days & years. I believe it's powerful to see the biblical text, New & Old Tstm & imagine the future with the stacked testimonies & understanding time accumulates more information. When the days of tribulation come the stacked accounts with all scripture will be that much bigger. GOD is amazing. I realized the other day the wealth of faith building information at our reach. I told a young man, "Yes, these days are difficult but we have so much to draw from". & GOD in HIS infinite wisdom gives each generation what they need. Romans 10:17, John 20:29,

    2. Luke 23:43, I guess it applies to today to yes prove "nothing is impossible with GOD" Luke 1:37, & possibly to encourage us that it's not too late to repent, in dying moment.

    Next. (?) Interesting observation. Matthew 4:12, Matthew 23:37, GOD gives people many chances to do good. Mark 6:20, Mark 6:19-31, read though, Mark 6:32-46, did Jesus even take time to mourn? It seems HE went to take a moment, yet compassion moved HIM to minister.

    At 1st read I had thought you asked about Peter & Paul comparison of Peter released & Paul was not, also same "(charges) Acts 12:5-17, Acts 21:30-40, - Acts 22, - Acts 23, - Acts 24, - Acts 25, - Acts 26, - Acts 27,-, Acts 28,

    My emotion would want to say "all chains are evil" however Mark 5:3-20, Jude 1:6, 2 Peter 2:4,

    GOD uses all for good , Psalms 105:17-25, Romans 8:28-30, while Paul was in prison he wrote letters that became an important part of our HOLY Bible today.

    3. James 1:5-8,

    Hope this helps
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    If you want to read about the account & additional scriptures leading up to it. Numbers 20:12,23, Numbers 27:12-23, Deuteronomy 31,

    Deuteronomy 32:45-52, Deuteronomy 33:1, Deuteronomy 34:1-8, Jude 1:9,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago

    If I'm understanding you right you're wanting us to pray for Earthquakes in California? Because unrighteousness within Newsomes' policies & appointed directors? No. Amos 5:18-20, Jude 1,

    Please let's instead pray for Justice within our elections especially California! Justice within the Courts. Orange Co. has years backlogs on Felony cases= no arrests. Pray, Justice within the streets. Protection for our Brothers & Sisters in CHRIST all over California!!!! Protection for their families, their fellowships, places of gathering!! Protection for fellow believers against lawlessness, racial hate crimes especially towards "white 'blanco' ", black & Asian people only because of their Citizenship status, color of hair, eyes, & skin. LORD please help us! Pray for the many Pastors like Greg Laurie, thousands of true outreach ministries all over California. Pray for the over 200,000 US citizens homeless & literally dying on the streets because of bad policies, neglect, injustice & wrongful allocation of housing. Matthew 25:31-46, Pray for Justice within the IRS, & Ca. Tax "authority" that wrongfully go after Christian believers & completely ignore billions or trillions of $ income, businessess, smuggling trades, & working "undocumented" unfairly & biased.

    California is like no other, it is a place of love, grace, mercy, acceptance, refuge. What has caused such enormous problems: it's loving open arms of grace, the enemy & evil doers have taken advantage & turned it into lawlessness. Jude 1:4,

    Hopefully this is helpful to you're understanding. Pray GOD see & help

    Deliver California O' GOD ALMIGHTY from the oppressors, help YOUR children, please O' LORD, in JESUS name we pray. Protect YOUR people like YOU've done so many times for me before. Thank YOU LORD
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Please read:

    Jeremiah 9:23-25, Zephaniah 1:9,

    Promise of punishment to Hebrews if they did not reform; Leviticus 26:23-25, Amos 3:2,

    GOD's punishment; Jeremiah 44:13, Hosea 12:2,

    Ezekiel 25:14,17, Jeremiah 51:11,36,37, Psalms 94:1, Jeremiah 50:15,18, Luke 21:22, Isaiah 63:4, Micah 5:15, Isaiah 61:2, Psalms 149:7, Jeremiah 11:20, Isaiah 47:3, Isaiah 34:6-9, Psalms 99:6-9, Ezekiel 25:12,

    Isaiah 59:16-21, redemption & recompense, Jeremiah 51:6, Jeremiah 30:20, Zephaniah 1:8,

    2 Thessalonians 6-9, Hope of GOD's recompense, it is "righteouss" Isaiah 35:4,

    Romans 12:19, Hebrews 10:28-31, Deuteronomy 32:35,

    Jude 1:5-7,

    Nahum 1:2, ''GOD is furious"
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello Becki,

    From what I understand most (or all) of us answering questions & possibly moderating are volunteers, that's what I've been told, I'm one that is. Freely I've received freely I should give. Matthew 10:8,

    I myself did not answer because I don't know that teaching.

    I am sorry that happened & I wish it didn't happen here. Each person here has their own reasons to be here. I jump on here irregularly, sometimes it's daily sometimes not for months. I do notice several questions do get overlooked= that's why I continue to volunteer here. = To try & answer the questions that seem to get skipped, overlooked, lost inside many words... Sometimes I answer a question that was overlooked & then there are several people giving alternative answers, weirdly. I was actually discouraged much recently & was going to stop volunteering here starting last night/today. Of course I prayed. Then after reading the WORD here just now, I went back into Discussion tab to find book in proposed reading 4 new year. & I saw your response, I feel a tug on my heart to help you. I don't believe that teaching of the Angels of GOD having children. Please read these scriptures: Matthew 22:28-32, Mark 12:24-25, Romans 8:14-17, John 1:12, Jude 1:1-25, if that were possible it would've happened in Tobit 3:7-17, Tobit 6:13-14 wouldn't it have?

    I recommend reading the HOLY Scriptures 2 Timothy 3:1-17,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Joleen - 2 years ago
    Thank you all for your prayers last time.

    Please pray that we would all fall in love with the Lord more and more each moment. Please pray that our work for Him is not done merely because of obedience but out of our love for Him.( Jude 1:21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.)

    Pray that God would restore unto us all the joy of our salvation. ( Psalms 51:12 Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me with thy free spirit.)

    And Please pray that God would give me the courage to stand up for my faith, and give me the courage to tell others about the Lord.

    Thank you all so much
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Luke 1 - 2 years ago
    Here are several scriptures I hope answer your questions

    * Psalms 139,

    Genesis 3:8, Genesis 4:16, Jonah 1:3, 2 Corinthians 3:17, Psalms 95:2, Psalms 16:11,

    Deuteronomy 11:10-13, Leviticus 22:3, Psalms 114:7, Psalms 68:8, Psalms 97:5, Romans 8:16, 1 Kings 9:3, 2 Chronicles 2:16-19, Job 10:4, Psalms 11:4, Psalms 34:15, Psalms 145:14-16, Proverbs 5:21, Proverbs 15:3, Hebrews 4:11-14, 1 Peter 3:12, Ecclesiasticus 15:19, Ecclesiasticus 17:15,19, Ecclesiasticus 34:16, Ecclesiasticus 39:19,

    Hebrews 9:24,

    Jude 1:24,

    Revelation 19:6,
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Luke 21 - 2 years ago
    Jude 1:3-25, note also Jude 1:22-23,
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 2 years ago

    There are writings outside the Bible, these two are mentioned in the Bible, the book of Enoch, Jude 1:14, the book of Jasher, Joshua 10:11 2 Samuel 1:18 but are they the original books, and there are the writings of Josephus.

    Scripture does tell us Satan entered Judas, John 13:27, we see in Matthew 12:26 Jesus said, if Satan cast out Satan, suggests he could possess someone, but Mark writes the same conversation, he writes Jesus is speaking in parables, Mark 3:23.

    In Daniel 8 not covering Media and Persia, Alexander the Great, and the four it is Antiochus went plundering to place himself above all including God, Isaiah 14:13 is a good description of his intent. He almost destroyed Jerusalem and the worship of God by Israel and placed the abomination in the temple, but he failed. Host of heaven in Paganism are the sun, moon, stars, and planets that is worshiped, but this is not about angels.

    Demons and angels are not the same but if you are looking for scripture it is not in the Bible we have. Fallen angels are not in scripture just a definition that has been given the bad ones. Some angels left their first estate and are locked in chains of darkness (bottomless pit), 2 Peter 2:4 Jude 1:6. They have a king, his name in Hebrew Abaddon, Greek Apollyon Revelation 9:1, the hell you speak of, in my understanding comes from Platonism and not scripture.

    Revelation 12 that many places in the past but it is yet in the future, the battle is in heaven, so these angels still have access to heaven. When Satan and these angels are cast down to earth will be permanent because it says no more place is found in heaven, Revelation 12:8-12, my understanding this starts the 3.5 years of tribulation when Satan gives his seat, power, and authority to the beast.

    There are evil beings on this earth 2 Corinthians 11:13-15 Ephesians 6:12, but how they got here is not in scripture.

    Just a little information, may it not add to your questions.

    God bless,

  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Proverbs 24:16, Matthew 24:24

    A few more scriptures come to mind for what you described I hope these are helpful. Jude 1:21-25, Jude 1, 1 John 1:10, Psalms 51:10,
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Matthew 25:31-46,

    Hebrews 9:27-28,

    Jude 1:1-25,

    1 John 1:8-10

    John 3:15-16,

    Hopefully these are helpful. There are many more scriptures on this subject. If you would like more, let me know. Just reply back.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Jude 1:6, hopefully this is helpful in your study.

    You can also do a word or phrase search in this app. It is very helpful.
  • Hazel carty on Jude 1 - 2 years ago
    Jude has speak these powerful words that feed my soul
  • Chris - In Reply on John 21 - 2 years ago
    Hello Carol. I don't believe that the Archangel Michael was the pre-incarnate Jesus nor the resurrected ascended Jesus. We read of Michael in Daniel chapter 10, as one who helped another who was contending with the "prince of the kingdom of Persia". And again in Jude 1:9 when contending with Satan.

    Michael is seen as the chief prince of the angelic hierarchy, but Jesus is never seen as such nor does that work. In Jude, Michael did not hold the same authority as Jesus to be able to rebuke Satan. But of Jesus, we read that He is the Word of God Who proceeded from God to become a man for the suffering of death - taking upon Him our punishment for our sins. That was Jesus' Work then & He is now seated at the Father's right Hand interceding on our behalf & will one day make an appearance into the World to defeat Satan & his followers & to reign bringing in righteous rule & blessing. Michael nor any other angelic being can ever fill those shoes, as important as they might be in carrying out the Will of God upon Earth.

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