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  • Bruce dye on Matthew 10 - 1 year ago
    matthew10:28 be afraid of him that can kill the soul in hell [GOD] last Sunday our Pastor said the soul never dies. I believe the soul does die in hell... what say you??
  • Luke - In Reply on Matthew 10 - 1 year ago
    The Pastor is WRONG, and the Bible does support the death of the soul,,,it's called the second death, at the Great White Throne Judgement if thou hath not repented and come to the Lord, thou shall perish.

    They are cast into the lake of fire, for God IS that lake of fire

    DEUTERONOMY 4:24 (For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.)

    PSALMS 37:13 But the lawless shall perish, And the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.

    What happens to the fat when it drips onto the coals in a BBQ?

    DEUTERONOMY 4:24 (For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.)

    20 And the beast was arrested, and with him the false prophet that did the signs before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone

    The Son of Perdition means liable to Die, He's the only one sentenced to DEATH thus far, but many follow him into the lake, whereby they die.
  • Delilah - In Reply on Matthew 10 - 1 year ago
    Of course the soul must die ! How can death be a punishment if our soul , which is us , doesn't die ?
  • John - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Bruce. Biblically speaking when a Christian dies His Holy Spirit. Goes back to God

    Who gave it and the body decomposes and his soul which is breath life I.E. when

    You take your last breath that is the end of soul life. Now an unbeliever is just

    Body and soul so when they die I.E. from dust thou art and unto dust thou shalt return then also they are their last breath and that's the end of soul life. The

    Confusion in this area of scripture is there are those that believe that spirit and

    Soul are the same and they are not. Also that a human is born with spirit and it gets

    Regenerated not correct, man lost his spiritual connection with God in Genesis.

    Now biblically there is hell or Sheol the grave then there is hell the gehenna which

    Is eternal damnation for all unbelievers, so for us born again does not apply also

    For the just it does not apply.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Matthew 10 - 1 year ago
    Hi Bruce,

    As I see this verse, It says not to be fearful of anyone who can kill our bodies where they do die. But to fear the One who can destroy body and soul in hell. I believe, since kill is not used in to second scenario, that Jesus is talking about eternal destruction, eternal punishment, and eternal condemnation, not the death of our soul. I believe that our soul will live immortally as will our bodies at the resurrection, either in heaven or hell. As far as at death when our bodies are dead, is our soul also dead? I don't think it ceases to exist during this time. What does it do during the time of our mortal death and our resurrection?

    I would hope to get some well thought out and well explained replies this. This discussion has been on this site before in recent weeks, but not concerning this verse, as far as I can recall.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Matthew 10 - 1 year ago

    I agree with your pastor. Matthew 10:28 says, "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."

    That word able is the key. This to me says that God is able to destroy both soul and body in hell, meaning He has the capacity and ability to do so, but no place in scripture supports the idea that He has or will destroy anyone's soul in Hell.

    In fact, the bible seems to teach that the soul, when it departs our physical body at death (And death literally means separation), but the soul lives throughout eternity in either Heaven or Hell. Matthew 25:46 is one place that would support the eternal existence of the soul. It says, "And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal." There are several other places in scripture that also support the same eternal existence of the soul.

    Now if the soul is destroyed in Hell, how could it be everlasting punishment? Some do teach that the soul will be destroyed, meaning that it will cease to exist. They call it annihilation. But the bible does not support that teaching. But I would have to agree with your pastor. As person will either spend eternity with Christ, or they will go off to everlasting (Same as eternity) punishment, completely separated from Christ throughout eternity.

    Is there any other place/s in scripture other than Matthew 10:28 that would cause you to believe that the soul is not eternal?

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