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  • Brian Lewis on Matthew 6 - 1 year ago
    The word clearly says we are to ask jesus for nothing any more but to ask the father. that's the next to last thing recorded in gids word that jesus spoke to us. why no sermons on this? i have been in church in various denominations for 64 years n not 9ne sermon have i heard on this clear direction by jesus. not one. same with songs. in the garden is a favorite if mine but i refuse to sing it like written because it violates what jesus told us. he is not on thus earth walking n talking with us. the last thing recorded that he said to us was that he had to get off this earth so that the holy ghost could come n he would lead us into all truth. no sermons on that either!. jesus said he had to leave earth so that the holy ghost could come n he would lead us into all truth. we dont need any special language to talk with him cause just like the father n the sin he knows them all. i have never heard any sermon saying we need to ask the holy ghost what the truth is on things. not one. if these are the last two directions we have from jesus n he was certainly adamant about them why are the not only just avoided but literaly thrown out by so called christianity??? he said he was coming back n getting a few but the corruotion would be wirld wide n 8verwhelming like isreal did more than once n was nearly destroyed. put into captivity n the kast days here would be the same. hes coming for a few n not the great masses that claim to serve. even that has dwindeled down. why no teachings on the last two directions, mandates, he gave us????? is it because the keaders in akl denominatiins have refused n are not doing as he told ys??? it appears the only answer us yes thats the reason n the masses follow them no matter what is i. the word.
  • Chris - In Reply on Matthew 6 - 1 year ago
    Hello Brian. To your questions:

    John 16:23, "And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you." The disciples of Jesus were continually with Him, talking with Him & asking questions - whether for knowledge or making personal requests. And Jesus dealt with those questions. But He was to leave them soon & they would no longer be able to speak with Him as they were doing now. So, He tells them to make their requests direct to the Father, asking in the Name of His Son. Does this mean that we can't speak to Jesus directly in our prayers? I believe we can, as we can also talk to and ask of God, even as Jesus directed His disciples. But what Jesus spoke to His disciples was giving them a Word of comfort & direction concerning their requests, that they could hereafter speak to God in His absence.

    I think you're referring to the song with the first line, "I come to the garden alone." And possibly the lines, "And he walks with me - And he talks with me", that is causing you concern. You're right, Jesus is now seated at the right Hand of the Father in Heaven, but I know that by His Spirit (as is God's Spirit), He is with us and in us. Physically, Jesus is in Heaven (according to the Word), but His Spirit still lives in us to minister to us in every way. Does He then walk & talk with us? I believe so - as my relationship is to the Triune God & I have access to God through His Spirit. Then I should be able to converse with Him & enjoy His company as if He was right there beside me.

    And why you have not heard sermons on the above, or even isolated references to them, I cannot say. But you can always make mention of these matters to your pastor/elder for clarification. Sometimes we hold these things in our hearts & stew over them, when often sharing them with our leaders & seeking their help, will bring us clarity & peace.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Matthew 6 - 1 year ago
    Thanks Brother Chris for all you do.

    God bless you.
  • Chris - In Reply on Matthew 6 - 1 year ago
    Thank you brother for your kind words & encouragement. You certainly have the Barnabas spirit, 'the son of consolation/encouragement'. I perceive that you too would love to share a lot more here, except that work & other commitments unfortunately intrude. Rest assured we always look forward to your thoughts & Scriptures given, to consider & meditate on. Every blessing.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Matthew 6 - 1 year ago
    Thanks Brother Chris.

    I love to look, listen, gather and learn as much as I love to engage.

    Sometimes it's best to just say Amen when you can't improve a reply.

    God bless.

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