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  • Bryanna - 1 month ago
    I have been struggling to let the lord in and live a godly life. When I do I know that he's there with me but everyday catches up to me and the wages of sun overcome me time and time again I would like to be closer connected to god and Jesus Christ and let them into my heart.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 month ago

    Barring fruit.

    Part 2.

    Staying intimately connected to the True Vine is the only way to "bear fruit in old age" ( Psalm 92:14), to "run and not grow weary" ( Isaiah 40:31), and to not "grow weary in well-doing" ( Galatians 6:9).

    One counterfeit to bearing good fruit is pretense. We can become experts at the routines, the lingo, and "acting Christian," while experiencing no real power and bearing no eternal fruit. Our hearts remain self-centered, angry, and joyless even while we go through the motions of serving God. We can easily slip into the sin of the Pharisees of Jesus' day in judging ourselves by how we think we appear to others and neglecting that secret place of the heart where all good fruit germinates. When we love, desire, pursue, and fear the same things that the rest of the world does, we are not abiding in Christ, even though our lives may be filled with church-related activity.

    And, often, we don't realize that we are living fruitless lives ( 1 John 2:15-17).

    Our works will be tested by fire. Using a different metaphor than fruit,

    1 Corinthians 3:12-15 says, "If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, their work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each person's work. If what has been built survives, the builder will receive a reward. If it is burned up, the builder will suffer loss but yet will be saved-even though only as one escaping through the flames."

    God is the judge of even our thoughts and motivations. All will be brought to the light when we stand before Him ( Hebrews 4:12-13).

    God knows what He has entrusted to each of us and what He expects us to do with it ( Luke 12:48). Our responsibility before God is to be "faithful with little" so that He can trust us with much ( Matthew 25:21).

    God bless.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 month ago

    An article on fruit barring.

    Part 1.

    In the natural world, fruit is the result of a healthy plant producing what it was designed to produce ( Genesis 1:11-12). In the Bible, the word fruit is often used to describe a person's outward actions that result from the condition of the heart.

    Good fruit is that which is produced by the Holy Spirit. Galatians 5:22-23 gives us a starting place: the fruit of His Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. The more we allow the Holy Spirit free rein in our lives, the more this fruit is evident ( Galatians 5:16, 25). Jesus told His followers, "I chose you and appointed you so that you might go and bear fruit-fruit that will last" ( John 15:16). Righteous fruit has eternal benefit.

    Jesus told us clearly what we must do to bear good fruit. He said, "Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself unless it abides in the vine, so neither can you unless you abide in Me. I am the vine, you are the branches; he who abides in Me and I in him, he bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing" ( John 15:4-5). A branch must stay firmly attached to the trunk to stay alive. As disciples of Christ, we must stay firmly connected to Him to remain spiritually productive. A branch draws strength, nourishment, protection, and energy from the vine. If it is broken off, it quickly dies and becomes unfruitful. When we neglect our spiritual life, ignore the Word of God, skimp on prayer, and withhold areas of our lives from the scrutiny of the Holy Spirit, we are like a branch broken off the vine. Our lives become fruitless. We need daily surrender, daily communication, and daily-sometimes hourly-repentance and connection with the Holy Spirit in order to "walk in the Spirit and not fulfill the lusts of the flesh" ( Galatians 5:16).

    See Part 2.

    Fruit barring.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 month ago

    Part 2.

    Sanctification and fruit barring.

    Having Christ's righteousness imputed to us does not mean we automatically do what is right-that will come through the process of sanctification. What it does mean is that we are positionally righteous; even though we still sin, we are legally righteous. God has credited the righteousness of Christ to our account, and He did this when He saved us. In grace, the holiness of Jesus Christ is ascribed to us. Christ "has become for us wisdom from God, that is, our righteousness, holiness and redemption"

    1 Corinthians 1:30.

    1John 5:13 reads"These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

    Here's an helpful article.

    If a person knows Christ and is growing in grace, he or she will be generally marked by the following traits:

    1. The believer enjoys fellowship with Christ and His redeemed people. 1 John 1:3.

    2. The believer walks in the light, not in the darkness. 1 John 1:6-7.

    3. The believer admits and confesses his sin. 1 John 1:8.

    4. The believer obeys God's Word. 1 John 2:3-5.

    5. The believer loves God rather than the world. 1 John 2:15.

    6. The believer's life is characterized by "doing what is right" 1 John 2:29.

    7. The believer seeks to maintain a pure life. 1 John 3:3.

    8. The believer sees a decreasing pattern of sin in his life. 1 John 3:5-6.

    1 John 5:18.

    9. The believer demonstrates love for other Christians ( 1 John 3:14).

    10. The believer "walks the walk," versus just "talking the talk" 1 John 3:18-19.

    11. The believer maintains a clear conscience. 1 John 3:21.

    12. The believer experiences victory in his Christian walk 1 John 5:4.

    Number 8 in the list above is that the believer will evince a decreasing pattern of sin in his or her life.

    No one who belongs to Christ continue to "Practice" sin as a way of life.

    1 Peter 2:2

    God bless.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 month ago
    Hi Bryanna.

    It seems you are struggling with the fruit of salvation.

    This is an area we all struggle with to some degree.

    However if you are a born again believer and truly "TRUSTING IN THE WORK OF CHRIST AND HIS SACRIFICIAL WORK ON THE CROSS" those wages has been paid in full.

    Sin brought on death.

    That's why we are to be born Again by the working of the Holyspirit. This is more precisely "Born from above"

    Now we have Christ spirit working in us.

    John 16:8 says the Holyspirit will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment.

    He will reprove it or show it to be wrong.

    No amount of preaching, pleading, or pointing of fingers will bring about the conviction of sin, unless the Holy Spirit is at work in the sinner's heart!

    So God bless you Bryanna!

    The most basic sin of which the world is guilty is unbelief.

    Once a person responds to the Spirit's conviction and turns to faith in Christ, the other sins he practiced will be taken care of. It is the sin of unbelief "a refusal to trust in Jesus is what is primary.

    Romans 6:20-22 reads,"For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness.

    What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed?

    for the end of those things is death.

    But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life.

    For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

    Justification, Righteousness and Sanctification.

    We have "been justified by his blood" ( Romans 5:9), and part of that justification is an imputation of His own righteousness.

    Christ righteousness has been imputed over to us.

    Romans 5:8-10. 2 Corinthians 5:21, and Romans 3:22

    sums it up as well.

    That does not mean we automatically do what is right, that will come through the process of sanctification.

    See part 2.
  • Stella_ml - In Reply - 1 month ago
    Praying for divine wisdom and strength and good will for you, sister! Believe!

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