Exodus Chapter 9 Discussion

  • GiGi on Exodus 9 - 2 years ago

    With this plague (fie and hail) Pharaoh speaks to Moses and says that he had sinned, that YHWH is righteous, and that the Egyptians are wicked. He said he would release the Israelites if Moses would make the fire and hail stop. But we see that Pharaoh was a manipulator and thought he could manipulate Moses AND YHWH. After Moses causes the hail and fire to stop, Pharaoh rescinds his words. It seems that Pharaoh may have had a hint of humility before YHWH but not enough to cause him to truly repent. He must have thought he could outsmart YHWH. And so, his heart was hardened even more. Instead of allowing his heart to be softened, YHWH squeezed Pharaoh's heart to push out more and more any sense of repentance or mortification before YHWH, along with any honor, respect, or reverence Pharaoh may have had towards YHWH after these plagues. Pharaoh just became more prideful, more arrogant, and more contrary to YHWH.

    This is what happens to people who fight against God; who denounce Him; who resist Him; who do not esteem Him. their hearts become hardened by their deliberate opposition to God.
  • GiGi on Exodus 9 - 2 years ago
    In this chapter, the YHWH continues to talk to Moses and sends Moses and Aaron back to Pharaoh bringing more plagues upon Egypt, but sparing the Israelites in the land of Goshen. Pharaoh's heart is hardened further, even though at one point he admits to having sinned and acknowledged the True God of the Israelites. Yet we discover that his words were not true words of repentance because he hardened his heart further when the plagues were stopped. He was just giving lip service in order to get a reprieve from this God he did not really know nor honor. Yet all of the ways of Pharaoh, God had orchestrated to bring about His purposes. By now the Israelites should be so thankful and sold out to YHWH seeing how they were spared the plagues how powerful YHWH truly was.

    The Egyptians worshipped both cows and bulls. The cow-god was Hathor and represented all of the best qualities of a female. The bull-god was Apis, Hathor's son (who was the most sacred bull-god as there were many bull-gods) who represented protection, virility, male prowess. Also, Apis was worshipped as actually god-creator and represented divinity and eternity. Seth was a donkey or camel -god, sometimes a mix of livestock represented storms and desert.

    Resheph was the name of the horse-god and represented war and pestilence.

    Menes was a goat-god.

    The pestilence (murrian) affected both humans and a variety of livestock. YHWH smiting the livestock of the Egyptians was pestilence demonstrated His defeat of all these livestock-gods.

    The next plague was skin boils, pustules, skin eruptions.

    There were gods/goddesses of healing, medicine.

    Sekmet-goddess of healing

    Thoth-god of healing

    Isis-goddess of medicine

    YHWH sending this plague challenged these gods ability to heal.

    The next plague was that of fire and hail.

    Shango was the fire and thunder god.

    Nut was the hail god.

    So YHWH was showing He was stronger and more fierce than these gods.
  • Chuck on Exodus 9 - 2 years ago
    Paul sorry but you are deceived. god creates us i his image we are not

    gods . genesis 1-26. we wer born in sin from the fall of adam, born

    in sin shapen in iniquity sin did my mother conceive, you have been

    deceived fron the cult of mormonisim , jesus brother was not satan

    this is blasphemy. jeus was the only god man who walked this earth, conceived

    of the holy sprit a supernatural birth, paul you have a different jesus, god was not

    flesh in bones , god is spirit and those who worship must worship him

    in spirit and in truth, repent paul receive the real jesus christ as lord and

    saviour or hell awaits you. heb 9-27 appointed unto man once to die than the

    judgement. mormonisim is a cult. gal 1-8
  • Bella on Exodus 9 - 3 years ago
    Listen to him read to you.
  • Albert Elliott - In Reply on Exodus 9 - 3 years ago
    What does it mean the Lord hearkened the heart of pharaoh
  • Eric on Exodus 9 - 3 years ago
    Hardening his heart is defined in the commentary. It reads as follows:

    -Hardness of heart denotes that state of mind upon which neither threatenings nor promise, neither judgements nor mercies, make any abiding impression. The conscience being stupified, and the heart filled with pride and presumption, they persist in unbelief and disobedience.

    Why would God make Pharaoh harden his heart to disobey him?

    Upon reading the comments it is for 2 reasons.

    1. Test Moses faith to do as God commanded unto Pharaoh

    2. To show the people his power

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  • Alex on Exodus 9:4 - 3 years ago
    MATTHEW 13 Comments by Alex on the KINGDOM OF GOD that has to be WITH IN US VIA that good seed the WORD,Simply b/c an external Kingdom wd no threat to satan , satans kingdom is within us,Thus the Kingdom of God has to be with in us,Ya remember kingdom against Kingdom, thus our warfare is in our minds . Thus the Kingdom of God has to be with in US i.e we need the mind of Christ to win this war on SIN . But a Church building wd be no help at all . Simply b/c our warfare is in our minds, its internal,in the spirit . Thats y the good seed is sown in our hearts and minds etc as the branches have to be in the vine 24/7 not 1 day a week . Thats y he refered to himself as the SON OF MAN , he is gona be born in humanity ,mankind remember a lil child is gona lead them, that heavenly Child is the result of the good seed, Donot dispise the day of small things which is the seed of the sower that is gonna form Christ in US. Which is the manchild the H.G. THAT IS GONNA BE BORN IN US SINNERS VIA that good seed the WORD which is the PLUMLINE of the new covenant.a heavenly birth via a tiny seed but this tiny seed is the living word the PLUMLINE. ya Cannot build a house without a plumline ,but in the spritual realm the plumline is the living word which is God himself,The living word . By my Spirit saith the LORD. The H.G. is our plumline telling us when we get outta square or outta plum or outa level . Or outta his spirit or outta his truth .Jesus said that outa of the hearts of man proceeds all manner of evil thus we need a Plumline a new heart and a new spirit etc. The manchild is gonna rule all nations which is the H.G. Gods plumline . His weapons of war is the H.G. and fire is His holy judgement that we need ,The manchild but his judgement is ALSO his LOVE whom the lord loveth he chasenth . But this new innerman has to come via a birth .I.E. judgement is gonna come via a birth of the manchild Gods great judge ,that is gonna rule all nations.which is the H.G. the manchild,The H.G.
  • Steven Spencer - In Reply on Exodus 9:4 - 3 years ago
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  • Chris - In Reply on Exodus 9 - 3 years ago
    Acts 14:11-14 tell us that Paul & Barnabas healed a crippled man at Lystra. This miracle caused some to think that the gods had come to visit them. So they named Paul, Mercurius & Barnabas, Jupiter. And to this Paul & Barnabas were extremely upset as they wanted to point people to the True & Living God, not mythological beings.

    So Mercurius, or Hermes was a god of travel, commerce, communications, eloquence: to which Paul was likened for his speech. And Jupiter, or Zeus was the king god of the sky, thunder, lightning, law & justice.

    Other Greek gods: Hera, Poseidon, Demeter, Athena, Apollo, Artemis, Aphrodite, Hermes, Dionysus, etc. These names I gleaned from the Web. And these gods would also be included in their religious & family practise.
  • Karen on Exodus 9 - 3 years ago
    What are the names of the Greek Gods in the KJV of the Bible?
  • Mishael - In Reply on Exodus 9 - 3 years ago
    In areas that are sparsely populated, they're not experiencing Corona virus like big cities do.

    Maybe some cows survived.
  • Debbie Hope on Exodus 9 - 3 years ago
    All the cattle died earlier in the plagues - Then when they were hail storm the cattle also died'. Where did that cattle come from if all died during the plague.
  • Paul on Exodus 9 - 3 years ago
    Proverbs 8:27 When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:

    We existed with God before the world was formed.

    And there was a war in heaven.

    Pharaoh killed Israel's first born males to genocide Israel.

    I believe once Pharaoh acted to destroy God's people, he lost his free agency and God then showed His power thru Pharaoh and Moses destroying all the first born males of Egypt.

    We are in a battle of good and evil.

    The battle is real.

    So real, God gave His Only Begotten Son for God so loved the world.

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  • Paul on Exodus 9 - 3 years ago
    Why would God harden pharaoh's heart and use Pharaoh to destroy and show His power?

    Paul says, For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power"

    I believe the answer involves a pre-existence, meaning we existed before we came to earth.

    Pharaoh was a vessel of dishonor and would not purge himself becoming a vessel of honor.

    Scriptures verifying a pre-existence:

    Jeremiah 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

    Romans 11:2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying ...

    1 Peter 1:20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you ...

    Psalms: 90:1-2 (A Prayer of Moses the man of God.) Lord, thou hast been our dwelling place in all generations.

    Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.

    Proverbs: (Wisdom, she is speaking of being with the Lord before and during Earth's creation)

    Proverbs 8:4 Unto you, O men, I call; and my voice is to the sons of man.

    Proverbs 8:30 Then I was by him, as one brought up with him: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;

    Proverbs 8:23 I was set up from everlasting, from the beginning, or ever the earth was.

    Proverbs 8:24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.

    Proverbs 8:24 When there were no depths, I was brought forth; when there were no fountains abounding with water.

    Proverbs 8:25 Before the mountains were settled, before the hills was I brought forth:

    Proverbs 8:26 While as yet he had not made the earth, nor the fields, nor the highest part of the dust of the world.
  • Danny Ray stanaland on Exodus 9:1 - 4 years ago
    Yes i Do i have a King James v thank god
  • Stephen B on Exodus 9 - 4 years ago
    Keira, et al By hardening Pharoah s heart, it means that the Lord squeezed his heart, and forced him to show his true colors, i.e. his hatred of God and his unbelief. Read Ezekiel 18:23.
  • Stanjett - In Reply on Exodus 9 - 4 years ago
    read verse 1 and 2 of the next chapter. Chapter 10
  • Elondia - In Reply on Exodus 9 - 4 years ago
    For two reasons 1. God wanted to see Moses's obedience on display as His Prophet while 2. God wanted Pharaoh to understand that there is only one God, God All Mighty, Mighty in Battle! After all, failed for Pharaoh he confessed and said at the end of his disobedience that Moses's God "Is God." Our God Got Power-The Holy Ghost Power!
  • Name on Exodus 9 - 5 years ago
    Because it was for His Glory...From the very beginning, God was purposed to harden Pharaoh's heart to do this. To show His power to His people. The problem, and the consequence, lies now to Israel, that even seeing His power, never changed, never repented...
  • Keira Ruth on Exodus 9 - 5 years ago
    In all due respect I for Our GodI have A question. If God wanted Pharoah to let his people go why did he harden his heart? Wasn't that why Pharoah didn't let them go? .
  • BSP on Exodus 9 - 6 years ago
    Verse 26: Jehovah God made a clear distinction between his people and the Egyptians. The Egyptians should have seen that God was clearly bringing punishment upon them and protecting his people.
  • BSP on Exodus 9 - 6 years ago
    Jehovah God commanded Pharoah to release his people and Pharaoh was clearly warned of the consequence of not doing so. When Egypt suffered as a result of their disobedience, they had no one but themselves to blame.
  • I AM on Exodus 9 - 7 years ago
    All the sinners of my people shall die by the sword, which say, The evil shall not overtake nor prevent us. He that led into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killed with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
  • Dawne on Exodus 9 - 7 years ago
    If you...If only...If Egypt would have found a place of humility their entire nation would have found a place of comfort and peace with God. I wish anyone else who reads including myself a place to soften our hearts so that we may be a yield vessel. Pharaoh lost it all and created great hardship for his own country. May we all find a place of repentance and humility.
  • Irene123 on Exodus 9 - 7 years ago
    V.12 - yes, God DID harden Pharaoh's heart. Yes, Pharaoh's heart was hard from the beginning; God hardened it further. The Bible, God's word, not mine, says so.
  • A disciple on Exodus 9 - 7 years ago
    I see an absolute similarity between Pharaoh and his wicked people, and the so-called Liberal Globalists and Islamist Cult of today. They worship and serve the same devil; and they yet exalt themselves against the true people of God! We read in Revelation, as in all the Prophets, that even with all the plagues and punishments that God sends upon the world of the ungodly; yet do they not repent!
  • Lydia on Exodus 9 - 7 years ago
    No ! He was already a hard man .Any willful defiant person will get harder every time he says NO to God. And judgement will increase God has to judge sin!
  • Martha on Exodus 9 - 7 years ago
    In verse 12 why did God harden pharoahs heart?
  • Sandy on Exodus 9 - 7 years ago
    This is a very good Book of the Bible. Exodus, it tells me that God is very Patient but he will put his foot down when h has had enough!

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