Genesis Chapter 22 Discussion



 
  • Alex1939 - In Reply on Genesis 22 - 1 year ago
    Alex1939...Billy its a picture of the offering up of Christ Jesus...That Ram caught caught in the thicket by his horns was symbolic of Christ and HIS CROWN OF THORNS...That resulted in the great Promise that there was gonna be a nation of Israel via Abraham's seed...B/C thou has done this thing i will multiply thy seed as the sands of the seas...That resulted in Jacob and the 12 tribes...

    .....Thus the offering up of Christ is gonna result in an Israel of God the H.G. Plural as the stars of Heaven..That 2 nd Promise ... Gal 6:16 Which are spirits the H.G. PLURAL...That New Covenant in his blood...I will pour out of my spirit on ALL FLESH...If i be lifted up I will draw all men unto me...And the 2 nd time the angel spoke to Abraham is when God swore by his very self Gen. 22:15 saying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of heaven...Thus the sower and his seed the very seed of God to whom the word ( his seed ) came it made them Gods and the scripture cannot be broken...Thats y they refered to the H.G. as the Promise the H.G. is the multiplication the regeneration of very God in humanity via the seed of Jesus the word...His breath...That New Covenant in his blood from Calvary...When he had taken the cup he says this is the New Covenant in my blood drink ye all of it.

    .....But The Lord also says that i am the light of the world but the nite comes when no man can work...And the day of the Lord cannot come till there 1st come a great falling away and that man of sin be revealed which is mans carnal mind...Satan's seat is our carnal minds that is in war with the wheat the H.G...The kingdom of Heaven sufferes violence b/c of the Tares and the wheat...The dragon and the woman with Child.. Rev 12:5 kjv...But the woman with Child wins and is gonna rule all nations with his rod of iron the word of God that cannot be broken....That New Covenant...The book in the fathers right hand..k gbu
  • Issachar Baker on Genesis 22 - 1 year ago
    This is a good Bible trivia when my mom was back home from work isaw this on Google chrome so I got it because the one my mom downloaded is boring so I saw it and now I am now back on Bible trivia games with no music
  • Faith Grossl on Genesis 22 - 1 year ago
    Did sarah have any knowledge of his request
  • Richard H Priday on Genesis 22 - 2 years ago
    This chapter gives the infamous command for Abraham to sacrifice his only son; the son which encompassed so many promises of God already related to future descendants and seemingly end it through this action. If anything else; Abraham's maturity of faith was great enough to accept this without any attempt to change things or resist God. His commentary at least seemed to suggest with his son and the two young men assisting that he would return afterwards with Isaac. Whether this was for their benefit not to panic or his own assurance God would be faithful or both we are not told. To have enough faith to expect and trust the Lord to provide some last minute reprieve held out until the end. The gig was up once Isaac was bound; and it is noteworthy that he didn't protest either. Only a supernatural Resurrection is what some suggest they believed would save the day; as it turned out as the knife and physically initiated the killing he was stopped before it reached him; and the ram in the thickets was used instead. God's swearing to him reiterated blessings; and also multiplying his seed as the stars of heaven (v. 17) along with military victories promised. There was further provision already in the works when he learned of his brother Nahor's offspring through an unknown source.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Genesis 22 - 2 years ago
    Dear Jocelynne,

    God was testing Abraham's faith in asking for him to sacrifice Isaac. God had communicated to Abraham at some time that He could raise up what has died, as Hebrews11:17-19 says Abraham believed that. So, since Abraham knew God could raise the dead, God was testing Him to see if he would believe it for his son, Isaac.

    It is easy to believe things in theory, but here God wants to show Abraham if he actually believes in the resurrection power of God in regards to his only son who had promises attached to Isaac's survival. God knew what that Abraham would willingly offer Isaac, but Abraham (and Isaac) needed to find out if their faith was strong enough for such a test.
  • Jcbu undercover - In Reply on Genesis 22 - 2 years ago
    If this were me,I would have pleaded with God to take me for a sacrifice instead of my son ,and said who will bring all the sands of the future people if my son is not here? It was a test of his faithfulness,and when Sodom and Gomorah were destroyed it showed that you can question God ,and plead with him for others that are righteous.Thank God an angel was sent to offer a sacrifice before anything happened.
  • Rick Mentzer - In Reply on Genesis 22 - 2 years ago
    Jocelynne Bell Understand up front that this is a different condition of a burnt sacrifice being explained

    the record is in Judges chapter 11 starting in verse 23 Jephthah who's heart was for Gods People God put his

    spirit upon Jephthah and he vowed a vow that whoever comes out of his home when he defeats the children

    of Ammon shall surely be the lord's and I will offer it up for a burn't sacrifice. Verse 32+33 God delivers them

    and verse 34 jephthah goes to his house and His daughter is first one to come out and she was his only daughter.

    A burn't sacrifice can also mean that a person has been committed to serving God in the temple or in our day and

    time single in the service of God the rest of there lives! In this case a man gave His word to God and if you make

    that level of commitment don't break it, i.e. say it and mean it. Verse 35 through 40 explain the heart of the

    daughter and how she prepared to commit herself in the temple the rest of her life! The context of this starts

    In verse 1 of chapter 11. In our culture words don't mean a lot that's why we have attorneys but in eastern culture

    what you vowed you did if you were a just man.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Genesis 22 - 2 years ago
    Hi Jocelynne.

    The account is in Genesis 22:1-18.

    It's a lot to this story than what meets the Eye.

    Issac was the child of promise and heir of the blessings promised to Abraham and by which the seed would come and by which all the world would be blessed.

    Genesis 15:5-6.

    Genesis 21:12.

    ( And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.)

    Now if God was going to keep his promise "WHICH HE ALWAYS DO, BECAUSE GOD CAN'T LIE" Abraham would have to believe in something else. THE RESURRECTION!!

    Hebrews 11:17-19. By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,

    Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called:

    Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; FROM WHENCE ALSO HE RECEIVED HIM IN A FIGURE.

    I believe this is where the Gospel is preached to Abraham.

    Galatians 3:8.

    Genesis 22:14. And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovah-jireh: as it is said to this day, IN THE MOUNT OF THE LORD IT SHALL BE SEEN.

    I believe the Lord Jesus was offered up on that same hill.

    I hope this helps.

    God bless.
  • Jocelynne Bell on Genesis 22 - 2 years ago
    So Abraham was trying to sacrifice his son? I'm a little confused.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Genesis 22 - 2 years ago
    Thank you for your reply

    Once again you have helped me by providing the Scripture in John where Jesus mentions that Abraham saw this day and rejoiced. I was going to search for it this morning, and here you gave it to me. I rad the whole chapter of John 8. Blessings to you.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Genesis 22 - 2 years ago
    Thank you for your comment.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Genesis 22 - 2 years ago
    Thank you.
  • David - In Reply on Genesis 22 - 2 years ago
    Hi Gigi Some added incite James 1:13 God can't be tempted neither tempt he any man, the word tempt in Genesis 22:1 there is the word nasah which is to try or prove. When Gods word is followed he proves or shows what he can and will do which was Abrahams great example of Believing what he said to do. But to try and tempt God would be to go against what is written and expect him to bail you out. Perhaps some added perspective.
  • Chris - In Reply on Genesis 22 - 2 years ago
    Thank you for re-living that wonderful portion of Scripture for us. Re: John 8:56, I would include John 8:56-58. In just three verses, Jesus speaks about life after death; that Abraham though now long dead in the flesh, was alive in spirit to be witness to Jesus' coming to Earth. As well, Jesus speaks about His pre-human existence: "Before Abraham was (even existed), I am". Is it any wonder that the Jews took up stones to destroy Him? Wonderful Truths that many, even today, will reject or twist to their belief.

    And that "downswing of his arm" was probably the point when full trust & commital gave way to any speck of doubt or fear. And that was a micro-second in duration, reminding us that the Lord's timing can never be wrong.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Genesis 22 - 2 years ago
    GIGI

    CONTINUING- I sent the previous text mistakingly to soon.

    Genesis 22:14. And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovah-jireh: as it is said to this day, IN THE MOUNT OF THE LORD IT SHALL BE SEEN."

    "Abraham was happy to see my day "!!!

    God bless.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Genesis 22 - 2 years ago
    Amen Sister GiGi.

    In Abraham's mind Issac was as good as dead. Abraham was banking on Gods promise as you said.

    Hebrews 11:17-19. By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,

    OF WHOM IT WAS SAID, THAT IN ISAAC SHALL THY SEED BE CALLED:

    ACCOUNTING THAT GOD WAS ABLE TO RAISE HIM UP, EVEN FROM the DEAD; from whence also he received him in a figure.

    Genesis 22:14. And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovah-jireh: as it is said to this day, In the mount of the LORD it shall be seen.
  • GiGi again on Genesis 22 - 2 years ago
    ...and sacrificed the ram as a substitute for Isaac (and all of Isaac's seed). Such an amazing historical story! As many have pointed out in their posts, many comparisons and fore-shadowings of Christ Jesus and His sacrifice. Abraham's one , and only Son promised to Abraham: God's one and only Son, promised to mankind in the garden of Eden. Isaac carries wood on which he would be sacrificed; Jesus carries his own cross on which he will be sacrificed. Isaac goes willingly to the altar and is bound willingly; Jesus willingly goes to Jerusalem, to Pilate, to Golgatha, to be nailed to the cross. Abraham is willing to to slay his own son; God the Father is willing to slay His own. The difference is, Abraham was stopped by God; God did not stop the slaying of His son, Jesus. The ram in the thorny thicket was provided for the sacrifice; Jesus with his head crowned with thorns (the thorns were dug into His flesh, and He bled). Just amazing parallels! Jehovah-Jireh-God will provide.! Then God speaks again to Abraham and reconfirms his promise and covenant with him, this time with Isaac, too.

    Abraham passed the test of faith. He can look back on this and bless the Lord for His faithfulness and promised blessings.

    I think the account in the remainder of the chapter happens at a time later than the test. Word comes to Abraham from Haran that his brother Nahor has had 12 children, 8 by his wife and 4 by his concubine, Reumah. This sets up the lineage of Isaac's wife-to-be Rebekah, born to Bethuel, Nahor's son. So, Rebekah is Isaac's second cousin one generation removed. Now Abraham and Sarah know that there is a kin person for Isaac to marry.

    Whenever I read this account of Abraham's test with Isaac, I desire more faith and pray for it. I also remember Abraham and God's faithfulness when I face a test of faith, too. God is good and cannot be tempted by evil. He will always do what is right. It always reminds me to be in constant fellowship with God so that I know His voice.
  • GiGi again on Genesis 22 - 2 years ago
    ....He also believed that God would resurrect Isaac after he died in the sacrifice. So, by faith, Abraham hoped against hope, and determined to do all that God had commanded him to do, without hesitation. He was sure of what he hoped for and did not waver in his faith in God. He believed God would completely fulfill his promises of making him a great nation.

    God told him where to go to sacrifice Isaac. To a hill in Jerusalem, on a mountain in the land of Moriah. Many interpret this as the same mountain Solomon's temple was built upon (can't recall the verse where God tells David to go to Mt. Moriah to sacrifice). Abraham gathers all that he will need and sets out in the morning with Isaac and servants. Isaac caries the wood and Abraham carries the fire and the knife. Isaac goes willingly, perhaps like he has done many times before with his father, though he notices that there is not animal for the sacrifice and inquires about it. Abraham replies,, "God will provide Himself the lamb for the burnt offering." Abraham probably did not know he was prophesying about Jesus at this time, but Jesus did say to His Jews that Abraham saw this day and rejoiced. ( Jn 8:56). So, maybe he did see Jesus' sacrifice at this time or a little later. He built an altar, arranged the wood Isaac had carried, bound and laid him on the wood on the altar. (Was Golgatha the altar that Jesus was laid upon? Was it the same hill as in this event?) Without hesitation Abraham raised the knife with every intent to slay Isaac, and then God broke through,coming down from heaven, and stayed Abraham's hand, telling him not to lay a hand on Isaac. Saying, "Now I know that you fear God, since you did not withhold your one and only son, from Me." I tend to think that Abraham had just began the downswing of his arm holding the knife when God stopped him.

    Then Abraham saw a ram caught in a thorny thicket.

    As many have spoken of in their posts, there is so many instances of foreshadowing in this event.
  • GiGi on Genesis 22 - 2 years ago
    This is one of my most favorite chapters in the Old Testament. For those who just finished reading this chapter, I encourage you to read Romans ch. 4 and Hebrews ch. 11:17-19. There is a direct connection between this chapter in Genesis and those I cited from the New Testament concerning faith.

    The chapter opens with God's plan to test Abraham and his faith. This is both a physical and spiritual test. God is omniscient, meaning he knew every thing that will ever happen before he creation including all of the thoughts, intentions, words spoken, and actions of each and every person from before creation. God didn't need to find out what Abraham would decide or do. He wanted to test Abraham for Abraham's sake. God calls to Abraham; He initiates the encounter. Abraham did not go to God and say, "Lord, what can I do to prove my faith to you." Here I am." Abraham did not tarry in responding to God. he was not wary of God, nor did he think that serving God was a burden.

    God explains what he wants Abraham to do. I have always been amazed that God would ask Abraham to do what everyone throughout history knows is wrong; kill another person. Yet the Bible says that God cannot be tempted by evil (can't recall the verse in the NT). Abraham knew that it was wrong before God to kill/sacrifice another person. The idolaterous people did this, sacrificed their children to Molech (Baal), laying them on the hands of the giant idol with a fire below his hands and in a chamber within his form. Abraham knew that Isaac was in essence his only son because God said to send Ishmael away and he was no longer a part of Abraham's family. He loved Isaac deeply having waited 100 years for Isaac to be born (25 years after God promised he'd be born). Isaac was probably close to adulthood at this time, or old enough to marry and have children to fulfill the promise of the covenant. Yet Abraham reconized that God is God and ne is not. He knew God. He trusted God. See more...
  • Rick - In Reply on Genesis 22 - 2 years ago
    Hi English Sacha I see abrahams unwavering believing in that your sharing telling his own son God will provide a sacrifice which again shows Abrahams absolute walk, when God talked to Abraham his response here am I like what do you want me to do, no question,no doubt,just moving on Gods word. Can you imagine what his sons head was doing, then again his Son knew by example what Abraham believed, what a remarkable record.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Genesis 22 - 2 years ago
    Amen sister sacha, isaac was a shadow of the real.
  • English Sacha - In Reply on Genesis 22 - 2 years ago
    Hi , I'm not quite sure what you are exactly asking but I have always taken the ram to be Christ . The crown of thorns around his head , the fact that Abraham tells Isaac that : God will provide a sacrifice . Thats how I've always read it but others may disagree .
  • Chris - In Reply on Genesis 22 - 2 years ago
    Hello Leo. The emotional & spiritual conflict that Abraham would have gone through, from the time the command was given to the raising of the knife against his son, would have been so real & devastating. But Abraham knew his God. The God Who would provide Isaac as the "heir of promise" ( Genesis 15:4), now fulfilled that promise, & had something special planned that cannot disannul His Word. Abraham didn't know how, he only knew this God & that God's Promise would never fail.

    If Satan was evident, it would have been sinful flesh working in Abraham's heart & mind to somehow avoid or change this 'awful' plan. It would have been Satan's delight to see Abraham cower down & refuse. But it was Abraham's singular focus to obey his God no matter what was asked of him (he might have even recalled the Lord's Directive to leave the Ur of the Chaldees & then Haran, not knowing what lay ahead). The provision of the ram in place of Isaac is clearly a picture of God providing His Sacrifice in our place. God could have allowed Isaac to lose his life through sacrifice & then raised up another. But the provision of the ram shows that each life is precious to God & there should never be an occasion for a life to die & face eternal judgement - that the ram was Isaac's substitute in death as the Lord Jesus is ours, hence providing the means for God to forgive us, as the Just takes on the punishment of the unjust.
  • David - In Reply on Genesis 22 - 2 years ago
    Hi Leo That does not flow with the message of Abraham obeying Gods command to do what God told Him to the point of being willing to give His son believing and that God by the ram would provide the sacrifice. A tremendous account of unwavering believing. Here's even a greater perspective Abrahams committed walk was so big being called a friend of God that if he had to sacrifice his son that he figured God could resurrect Him that's just an interesting thought.
  • Leo G Imes on Genesis 22 - 2 years ago
    Question? Can any symbolic correlation be made for the entangled ram(v.13) and a representation of satan/the possible failure of Abrahams faith in Gods prior direction(v.1); being sacraficed?
  • Jeff on Genesis 22 - 2 years ago
    This is a tremendous account of free will, God testing Abrahams faith, and the outcome of Abahams response confirming his trust which God did not know until Abraham chose to follow through. Then God said "NOW I know". God didn't say, I always knew. Free will is an amazing and yet dangerous power God has entrusted His greatest creation with, those He has given the opportunity to be His Sons bride.
  • William on Genesis 22 - 3 years ago
    Sadly, even Matthew Henry misses the depth of Gen. 22:8. God did not say he would provide a lamb. He said He would provide HIMSELF a lamb. All glory and wisdom and honor to God and to those who have their eyes opened by the faith of Jesus Christ our Lord.
  • Richard in Christ - In Reply on Genesis 22:14 - 3 years ago
    Hi S Spencer,

    No problem sir. Here are a couple sections from the Apocrypha books that I know of. A couple good Scriptures on death of those who are with the Lord.

    Wisdom of Solomon 2:23-24, Wisdom of Solomon 3:1-9, Wisdom of Solomon 4:7-16, Wisdom of Solomon 5:15-16,

    Ecclesiasticus 14:11-18, Ecclesiasticus 19:18-20, Ecclesiasticus 41:3,

    A couple from the Book of Enoch: 58.3 And the righteous will be in the light of the sun and the chosen in the light of eternal life. And there will be no end to the days of their life and the days of the Holy will be without number.

    62.13 And the righteous and the chosen will be saved on that Day and they will never see the faces of the sinners and the lawless from then on.

    62.14 And the Lord of Spirits will remain over them and with that Son of Man they will dwell, and eat, and lie down, and rise up, forever and ever.

    62.15 And the righteous and chosen will have risen from the earth, and will have ceased to cast down their faces, and will have put on the Garment of Life.

    62.16 And this will be a Garment of Life from the Lord of Spirits; and your garments will not wear out, and your glory will not fail, in front of the Lord of Spirits.

    As these are just some things besides the verses in the NT we have. Of coarse the ungodly and those who are against the Lord death is detailed to not be good throughout all Scripture.

    God Bless Spencer.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Genesis 22:14 - 3 years ago
    Share what you have Richard. Thanks
  • Richard in Christ - In Reply on Genesis 22:14 - 3 years ago
    Hello Catherine,

    Seeing your post a verse comes to mind. Though it is not exactly what you state about to "mourn birth". Ecclesiastes 7:1.

    I know of a couple other things about death being "good". For those who are with the Lord of coarse. If you're interested let me know.

    God Bless.


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