Genesis Chapter 29 Discussion

  • Richard H Priday on Genesis 29 - 2 years ago
    This chapter; and indeed the following ones show God's dealings with Jacob. Interestingly; the previous event in chapter 28 showed Jacob stating that if he was blessed; that he would serve the God of Israel. One would think that was what he was doing previously with his upbringing. It is interesting to note at least he didn't make the commitment before he was ready to make it sincerely; and the Lord had to "one up" many of his earlier tactics to demonstrate that He was truly the one in control and to refine him.

    It is also interesting seeing the disingenuous gleeful response that Laban showed Jacob in verse 13 and 14. He had learned something; of God's blessings with Isaac earlier and Rebecca. It was his own gain; however which motivated him; much like with Jacob's manipulations. He started a pay arrangement after a month; and interestingly it was Jacob himself who decided to make the terms of marriage as far as the length of servitude of seven years; surely he could have requested her sooner. Then; of course came the "coup de gras" as it were; apparently he didn't see anything with the overnight consummation of the marriage; this shows how little he cared not to at least want to see her face to face but instead being smitten by external beauty. Thus; Laban had the upper hand and stuck him for another seven years for Rachel. The Lord had the final say here to demonstrate to Jacob that he was going to bless the woman who Jacob despised for fleshly reasons; by blessing her with children. It would take some time for Rachel later on to catch up. Again; a covenant of marriage no matter how informal the ceremony was still an arrangement recognized by God and Jacob had to deal with it. It would appear that both marriages were accepted by the Lord; but clearly contention and strife resulted from such arrangements. In all this; of course God's purposes for the tribes which would be the patriarchs of Israel were fulfilled.
  • Gigi on Genesis 29 - 2 years ago
    Well it looks like in this chapter, the tables were turned on Jacob by Laban sending Leah in to where Jacob was following the marriage celebration. It was night, and we do not know what Leah was wearing or how dark it was for Jacob to not be able to discern that the woman he consummated a marriage with was not Rachel. But Jacob really loved Rachel and wanted her for his wife, so he was willing to work another 7 years for Laban in order to secure Rachel as his wife, too. I have always felt sorry for Leah. The "customs" of the time dictated that the elder daughter is to be married first, so she was given to a man who loved her younger sister.

    Here we have another plural marriage in Genesis. Both Leah and Rachel were full-fledged wives, not concubine wives, and of equal standing. Of course tensions would arise. Jacob would have known that from being a twin. I am not sure what is meant when Laban told Jacob to complete the week with Leah. Perhaps it was the custom for a man to be wit his wife a full week without any other duties but to share the marriage bed. So, Jacob did, and then he took Rachel as his wife and most likely for a week's time just like for Leah. After that it doesn't speak of the arrangements of who has access to Jacob when and for how long. The text skips to the subject of the barrenness of both women until Leah conceived. Must have been very unbearable for Rachel to see her sister bear 4 sons and she had not conceived at all. Probably put a rift between the sisters in some way.

    Since it seems that Jacob did not arrive at Laban's home laden with gifts for the family he would take a wife from, it appears that Jacob would have to work for his father-in-law in exchange for having Laban daughter/s for his wife/wives. Must have been customary for men to supply some kind of dowry in order to take a daughter for a wife.

    It is obvious that Leah felt hated in this family relationship. I doubt that Jacob really hated her, he just loved Rachel more.
  • Carleton on Genesis 29:17 - 3 years ago
    "The doctrine of Jesus Christ is the word of the heavenly Father. The doctrine of the Son and the testimony of the Holy Spirit is above (excels) all the teachings of the prophets, and it contains all that is necessary and conducive to salvation.

    Nor can the will of the heavenly Father be found anywhere so clearly as in the words of Jesus Christ, by whom he has in these last days spoken, made known his will, and fully expressed it; hence all that is contrary, or not conformable, to the words of Christ, is not God's word or will; for "no other foundation can be laid, than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ"

    1 Cor.3:11.

    Originally written in German by Dietrich Phillip on his writing titled "The True Knowledge of God"

    Supporting scriptures to this small part of his text are as follows:

    Hebrews 1:2

    John 7:16

    John 3:11

    John 8:28

    John 12:49

    John 14:10;24

    Galatians 1:8-9

    Matthew 4:4

    Matthew 11:29
  • Carleton - In Reply on Genesis 29:17 - 3 years ago
    Dear Andy, please read them yourself.

  • Andy G van den Berg on Genesis 29:17 - 3 years ago

    May we further suggest you Google 'False Apostles and False Christs'. It is the first Listing out of 16.9m.

    In His Service.

    Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada
  • Meant Well - In Reply on Genesis 29:17 - 3 years ago
    May God bless me every time I am mocked for things I meant to be pure and lovely; of good report.
  • Mishael - In Reply on Genesis 29:17 - 3 years ago
    I apologize for taking too much space. It will not happen again.
  • Richard - In Reply on Genesis 29:17 - 3 years ago
    You're so right Mishael. I believe when I pray I call Jesus Christ around 15-20 things. Most in your list. And so many people today are getting very hung up, and arguing, on saying "you should only call Him this or that". Thank you much for you posting a list of His names brother. God Bless!
  • Stanjett - In Reply on Genesis 29:17 - 3 years ago
    You wrote a book to ask if we felt like crying?
  • Names of JesusPart 4 - In Reply on Genesis 29:17 - 3 years ago
    40. Resurrection and the Life - "Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die." John 11:25

    41. The Door - "I am the door. If anyone enters by me, he will be saved and will go in and out and find pasture." John 10:9

    42. The Way - "Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6

    43. The Word - "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." John 1:1

    44. True Vine - "I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser." John 15:1

    45. Truth - "And you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." John 8:32

    46. Victorious One - "To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I was victorious and sat down with my Father on his throne." Rev. 3:21

    47 - 50. Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

    "For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders.

    And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace." Is. 9:6

    All thisand so much more.

    He alone is worthy.


    After all the "discussion" over the weekend about Jesus's name ( Yeshua, Messiah, etc)

    He's worth so much more than to be an object of disagreements. Am I the only one who felt like crying?

  • Names Of JesusPart 3 - In Reply on Genesis 29:17 - 3 years ago
    27. Mighty One - "Then you will know that I, the Lord, am your Savior, your Redeemer, the Mighty One of Jacob." Is. 60:16

    28. One Who Sets Free - "So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed." John 8:36

    29. Our Hope - "Christ Jesus our hope." 1 Tim. 1:1

    30. Peace - "For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility," Eph. 2:14

    31. Prophet - "And Jesus said to them, "A prophet is not without honor, except in his hometown and among his relatives and in his own household." Mark 6:4

    32. Redeemer - "And as for me, I know that my Redeemer lives, and at the last He will take His stand on the earth." Job 19:25

    33. Risen Lord - "that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures." 1 Cor. 15:3-4

    34. Rock - "For they drank from the spiritual Rock that followed them, and the Rock was Christ." 1 Cor. 10:4

    35. Sacrifice for Our Sins - "This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins." 1 John 4:10

    36. Savior - "For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Savior, who is Christ the Lord." Luke 2:11

    37. Son of Man - "For the Son of Man came to seek and to save the lost." Luke 19:10

    38. Son of the Most High - "He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The Lord God will give him the throne of his father David." Luke 1:32

    39. Supreme Creator Over All - "By Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities-- all things have been created through Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. Col. 1:16-17

    10 more on the way :)
  • Carleton - In Reply on Genesis 29:17 - 3 years ago
    Thank you for doing this. I saved both pages thus far. Lots of fire activity nearby. Prayers are needed.

  • What the Good Shepherd Does About Hirelings - In Reply on Genesis 29:17 - 3 years ago
    This is proverbs 18:21

    Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.

    I don't know what verse you speak of?

    A born again person should know we are not gods. Common sense that anybody is born with, knows they aren't a god. Reprobates do think they are gods.

    Jesus has given born again believers, Authority, in His Name only; to help people.

    To be saved and born again; or to lay on hands, or cast out devils. He authorizes His followers.

    If you hear someone preach something else, they are held accountable to God for every word of error, or idle words, that proceeds OUT of their mouth. He will take care of that.

    If it happens in a church, people need to handle it as taught in the Bible. All things must be done in order.

    As a believer, you must pray to God, in Jesus Name; and lay out this entire incident. By faith, you must trust it will be dealt with.

    We are Jesus's flock and He is the Good Shepherd.

  • Allen - In Reply on Genesis 29:17 - 3 years ago
    In proverbs 18.21 what does one understand by this verse?

    Do I become a little god having the power of life and death.

    This is so widely used today born again belivers
  • Chris - In Reply on Genesis 29:17 - 3 years ago
    The Bible doesn't expand on Leah's 'tender eye' except to compare her to Rachel's beauty. The Hebrew word used for 'tender eye' means "weak or soft, wanting in clearness or brilliancy". So we cannot know for sure how Leah appeared but it may well have been eye lids that drooped or defective pupil alignment (just my thoughts). Whatever, Jacob was taken with Rachel' beauty, but Dad, Laban wanted the opportunity to have Leah married off first, so you have probably read of that deception in the rest of that chapter.
  • Names of Jesus Pt 2 on Genesis 29:17 - 3 years ago
    14. Head of the Church - "And he put all things under his feet and gave him as head over all things to the church." Eph. 1:22

    15. Holy Servant - "and grant that Your bond-servants may speak Your word with all confidence, while You extend Your hand to heal, and signs and wonders take place through the name of Your holy servant Jesus." Acts 4:29-30

    16. I Am - "Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am." John 8:58

    17. Immanuel - "She will give birth to a son and will call him Immanuel, which means 'God with us.'" Is. 7:14

    18. Indescribable Gift - "Thanks be to God for His indescribable gift." 2 Cor. 9:15

    19. Judge - "he is the one whom God appointed as judge of the living and the dead." Acts 10:42

    20. King of Kings - "These will wage war against the Lamb, and the Lamb will overcome them, because He is Lord of lords and King of kings, and those who are with Him are the called and chosen and faithful." Rev. 17:14

    21. Lamb of God - "The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, "Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!" John 1:29

    22. Light of the World - "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life." John 8:12

    23. Lion of the Tribe of Judah - "Weep no more; behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has conquered, so that he can open the scroll and its seven seals." Rev. 5:5

    24. Lord of All - "For this reason also, God highly exalted Him, and bestowed on Him the name which is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee will bow, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father." Phil. 2:9-11

    25. Mediator - "For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus." 1 Tim. 2:5

    26. Messiah - "We have found the Messiah" (that is, the Christ)." John 1:41
  • Names in Bible Pt1 on Genesis 29:17 - 3 years ago
    50 Names and Titles of Jesus:

    1. Almighty One -who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty." Rev. 1:8

    2. Alpha and Omega - I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Rev. 22:13

    3. Advocate - My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father--Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. 1 John 2:1

    4. Author and Perfecter of Our Faith - Fixing our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of faith, who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. Heb. 12:2

    5. Authority - Jesus said, 'All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Matt. 28:18

    6. Bread of Life - Then Jesus declared, 'I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. John 6:35

    7. Beloved Son of God - And behold, a voice from heaven said, This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased Matt. 3:17

    8. Bridegroom - And Jesus said to them, Can the wedding guests mourn as long as the bridegroom is with them? The days will come when the bridegroom is taken away from them, and then they will fast. Matt. 9:15

    9. Chief Cornerstone - The stone which the builders rejected has become the chief corner stone." Ps. 118:22

    10. Deliverer - And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, Jesus who delivers us from the wrath to come. 1 Thess.1:10

    11. Faithful and True - "I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war." Rev.19:11

    12. Good Shepherd - "I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep." John 10:11

    13. Great High Priest - "Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold fast our confession." Heb. 4:14
  • Brenda Riley on Genesis 29:17 - 3 years ago
    What does tender eyed mean?
  • Bianca Peterson on Genesis 29 - 3 years ago
    In verse 35, even though Leah happened to be in circumstances beyond her control that weren't ideal, she still expressed gratitude towards Jehovah God and offered him praise. This is a good example to imitate because we each face trials that may be out of our control but we can always look for ways to express our thanks to Jehovah God.
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  • Stan jett on Genesis 29 - 5 years ago
    Sarah: (The Jews in ISRAEL today are of Russian descent. ) Really? I thought that in 1948 they came back from ALL nations.
  • Majesty on Genesis 29 - 8 years ago
    Leah had many children but still received no love from Jacob
  • Norah on Genesis 29 - 8 years ago
    For Jacob to have married two sisters was to fulfill Gods purpose for all Jacob's sons represents the twelve princess and twelve tribes
  • Bk on Genesis 29:34 - 9 years ago
    A web search showed that the Hebrew name Levi means "Joined in Harmony ".
  • Geraldine cole on Genesis 29 - 9 years ago
    To get the truth we must go back and read ch 24. 25.26. 28 then 29 because Issac call his son Esau in because he knew he was dying and Isaac told his to go get his food that he love and cook it.his wife heard him and told Jocob her son to pretend he was Isaac oldest son so that his father could bless him and he would own all of Isaac when Jacob and his mother decieved Isaac everything went wrong Esau hated his brother for what he did he stole his birthright everything went wrong from that lie u no a family lie can travel down threw a family until someone stand u and speak the truth
  • Hannah on Genesis 29:17 - 9 years ago
    I thinks it 's beautiful that in the end Jacob wanted to be buried with leah and not rachel. Out ward beauty doesn 't matter
  • Mark Nunes on Genesis 29:17 - 9 years ago
    Leah had beautiful tender sad eyes far apart and slanting down at the sides like Marylin Monroe This was her best feature but Rachel still had more going for her and was beautiful also and had a nice body. Fat was considered beautiful back then at a time when everyone worked so hard, ate so little and hardly any one got overweight. So maybe Leah was skinny. Well favored probably meant Rachel had a fuller figure but with a nice hourglass shape.
  • Sarah on Genesis 29:17 - 9 years ago
    No she was not blue eyed ,nor white, how did you gather that from that passage? You pastor knows not the word. All the nation of ISRAEL was, and is dark unto this day. She was pleasing to the eye, but not like Rachel . The Jews in ISRAEL today are of Russian descent.
  • Brigit on Genesis 29 - 9 years ago
    What I get from this story the fact that we don 't always see what 's ahead of us nor do we understand why God would allow certain things to happen in our lives i.e Leah 's marriage to Jacob BUT we have to trust that no matter what happens we have to remain faithful to our spouses and God turn that which appears bad into good for out of the tribe of Judah our Lord our Savior was born hence deliverance for mankind...may faith, hope, charity and love abide in you all.
  • Kayla on Genesis 29 - 9 years ago
    I love this scripture sometimes one child is always more favored more then the other if you think back 2 chapter back in Genesis that happened with Jacob and Esau. So, he meets to siblings and ended up favoring one then the other based off of looks because of that I think also god is trying to show us a message that you can 't go by just looks and favoritism it can either end up good or bad. you need to love each child the same no matter what their differences are and that you need to have other options open not just based on looks. God shows us these things o helps us with day to day life and how to deal with situations and he helps you through anything if you believe in him he will carry through even if you haven 't put all your faith in him he still carries through even if he doesn 't he knows some things is better for you and is not going to work for you.

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