Proverbs Chapter 5 Discussion



 
  • T Levis - In Reply on Proverbs 5 - 1 year ago
    I'd like to add, because I see your title as "Evangelist" If you didn't know you can use this site for much study in the Scriptures. There is a word, phrase search bar even partial word can be searched such at "prop" for all words regarding Prophecy, Prophets, Prophetess, Prophetic, under "Modify Search" tab. The search bar will show up when you tap on the version KJV Standard or KJV 1611.

    For deeper word translation meanings for study there is also Strongs Exhaustive Concordance within the site. Prophetess Hebrew word "nbiy'ah" in Old Testament & greek word "prophetis" in New Testament

    Acts 21:9, doesn't give the females the title "Prophetess" but states the "four daughters, virgins, which did prophesy"

    Hopefully this is helpful
  • T Levis - In Reply on Proverbs 5 - 1 year ago
    Exodus 15:20, Judges 4:4, 2Kings 22:14, 2Chronicles 34:22, Isaiah 8:3,

    Luke 2:36,

    If you're wondering about women Prophetess: Joel & the book of Acts also Corinthians, speaks about them,

    Also falsely Revelation 2:20, Nehemiah 6:14

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Evangelist Price on Proverbs 5 - 1 year ago
    Where in the BIBLE do you find the word Prophetess? Thank You
  • PROVERBS 5 MEANING - In Reply on Proverbs 5 - 2 years ago
    This chapter begins with the typical plea for the reader or listener to pay close attention. This book uses the term wisdom to mean an ability to apply godly knowledge. Discretion is closely related to that idea. This implies someone who can discern between different things. We see the same idea in related English terms such as discrete, discriminate, and discernment. The advice given here is vital, and Solomon is eager to see it followed ( Proverbs 5:1-2).

    A key aspect of avoiding sin is to avoid temptation. This is why Solomon strongly suggests staying far away from those who tempt us towards adultery. Avoiding situations where we're liable to be overcome is sound advice. As part of that warning, this passage also describes the consequences of adultery. Those include a loss of reputation, shortened life, possible legal trouble, and reduced prosperity. Worse, adultery leads to deep regret, looking back with sorrow on sinful choices. There is a reason why, even in a modern culture drenched in promiscuity, there is still a deep stigma against those labelled as marital "cheaters" ( Proverbs 5:7-14).

    Summarizing this section is a reminder that God knows and sees all things. A common thread in adultery is secrecy, but that's not possible in the eyes of an omniscient Creator. Another common thread is regret over consequences. Once adultery has been committed, it cannot be undone. God can-and will-forgive those who seek Him. But that forgiveness does not change the past. The damage to relationships, reputations, and bodily health are real, and those who ignore godly advice are liable to find this out the hard way ( Proverbs 5:21-23).
  • LORRAINE CONLEY SELLERS on Proverbs 5 - 2 years ago
    What is chapter 5 refering to
  • Leslie Ray clark - In Reply on Proverbs 5 - 2 years ago
    to support your statement; one would have to disregard what the words of wisdom actually reports. First natural and then spiritual parables Jesus would address His followers. Thus I would agree that the council of Proverbs words report that "she"etc. addresses other types and examples. They also addresses the elephant in the room...
  • WhiteE on Proverbs 5 - 2 years ago
    This verse has nothing to do with a spouse or marriage in the sense of a husband & wife. The topic throughout the chapter is WISDOM. The writer, Solomon, is on the topic of WISDOM when he uses the "wife/woman/she/her" type references.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Proverbs 5 - 2 years ago
    H J,

    I'm sad to hear of you're very difficult situation all around. 1st let's start with GOD loves you. How wonderful it is when anyone seeks HIM & HIS truth. 1 John 4:19, John 3:15-16. Deuteronomy 4:29,

    I have wondered about this subject & I ask: if a man/woman marries someone thst is divorced Matthew 19:9, then is that a marriage honorable to GOD ? Or is it sin, continued in?

    Ezra 9,10, it appears only 2 people were against that decision. Ezra 10:15, some of them had children Ezra 10:44, Nehemiah 8:9, Nehemiah 13:23-31,

    Is it sin, to continue in sin?

    John 8:10

    Is that what Jesus would say to you?
  • SUCCESS IN RELATIONSHIPS - In Reply on Proverbs 5 - 2 years ago
    Obey those that have rule over you_meaning the leadership at the church you attend. They must give an account of you.

    We obey God; concerning marriage and divorce.

    If we behave as unbelievers, why even be a Christian?

    If you want to know why the young people are out of control, it's because of what society dictates. Not God.

    Revelation chapters 2 and 3. Concerning Jezebel- many good videos on youtube about her.

    If we become one with the people we marry, or sleep around with: that is a lot of soul ties my friend.
  • HJ - In Reply on Proverbs 5 - 2 years ago
    OK, I may partially understand what you say. Does the word not it say in the New Testaments that we yes have a right as husband and wife, we see we are not compatible, we can't get along, we argue and bicker, we are miserable,we are so disgusting we make everyone around us miserable>It was said that yes we have the right to at last break the marriage, separate, get apart from each other YES we have that right BUT does that follow with words that yes we have that right to divorce>BUT we do not have the right to marry again and if we do we will be committing adultery and fornication? SO THEN,after the divorce as to man's Laws we have the right to marry again, And yes the Lord recognized the woman at the well had been married 5 times but he said >YOUR 1st husband is your husband, This mans Law that we can remarry as many times as we want to as long as there has been a legal divorced obtained , So the word says we can depart from our mate but we are in no wise to >MARRY AGAIN > BUT you are saying because God has put man in charge here on earth as to man's laws and because God has appointed Kings and Governors as bosses that as long as these men Kings and Governors says it is ok to divorce and remarry then capoosh just break The words of the Bible and go remarry as many times as we want because Kings and Governors tells us we can and we do not have to go by what the Bible says that yes we have the right to break up but not to marry again. This is a contradiction and no man has a right to overrule the Laws of God KINGS NOR GOVERNORS .. God nor Jesus has given no man the Power nor Authority to over rule what their Laws are, Yes Jesus knew the woman at the well had been married 5 times but he plainly said YOUR 1st husband is your husband. so then I take that as she only has 1 husband and has done what the Lord said to not do 4 times, or 5 if you want to consider the one she was having an affair with on the last . Jesus said YOUR 1ST HUSBAND IS YOUR HUSBAND.5 time adultress.
  • Mishael - In Reply on Proverbs 5 - 2 years ago
    I just want to add you might benefit greatly from watching some Greg Laurie videos on YouTube.

    He went through a lot with a mother that married and divorced frequently; alcoholic. Greg talks about what his childhood was like.

    We were young in the 80's with all the wild stuff in churches and how it hurt and confused Christians who wanted to live for God, the Bible way.

    Greg and I both were involved in Street Ministry: me in Texas, NM, Oklahoma, and him in California. He's funny sometimes but an excellent Pastor now of Harvest Church. You'll like him.
  • DIVORCE AND REMARRIAGE - In Reply on Proverbs 5 - 2 years ago
    JESUS'S TEACHING ON DIVORCE

    Matthew 19

    3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for Every cause?

    4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, ( Genesis 2:23-24) that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,

    5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?

    6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.

    7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?

    8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the BEGINNING it was not so.

    9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.

    [Wesley's Notes for Deuteronomy 24:1 Mosaic Law for Divorce]

    Some uncleanness - Some hateful thing, some distemper of body or quality of mind not observed before marriage: or some light carriage, as this phrase commonly signifies, but not amounting to adultery. Let him write - This is not a command as some of the Jews understood it, nor an allowance and approbation, but merely a permission of that practice for prevention of greater mischiefs, and this only until the time of reformation, till the coming of the Messiah when things were to return to their first institution and purest condition.]

    My best advise is to schedule a consult with your Pastor for prayer and conversation. If children are involved; they suffer emotional closeness issues later. I was divorced, raised the child alone; and never remarried in 39 years. I'm a widower now.

    See if you can work things out and rediscover the love you once had.

    Mishael
  • TB - In Reply on Proverbs 5 - 2 years ago
    Have you ever read John chapter 4. This is the account where Jesus stops by a well and a Samaritan woman comes out to meet him. He asks her to give him a drink. Theres an exchange that takes place about the Samaritans having no dealings with the Jews then Jesus tells her of this living water. She asks if He's greater than their father Jacob. The story continues with Jesus asking her to go get her husband. She explains that she has no husband. Jesus says to her, "Thou hast well said, I have no husband: For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that saidst thou truly. John 4:17-18.

    So Jesus recognizes this womans previous marriages. Which means that every one counts.

    As far as Gods laws for christians it says in Romans 13:1-2 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. Whosoever therefore resisteth the power resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

    1 Peter 2:13-15 Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well. For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men:

    Titus 3:1 Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work,

    Now as far as I know, Mans laws that include marriage do not go against what marriage is in the new testament and even in Jesus' sight this woman has been married 5 times and now was living in fornication. Being with someone she's not married to. That being said, we can rightfully assume she obviously was not a virgin after the marriage to her first husband. So in your case you were legally married to two women, regardless of their former status. This holds weight in Gods sight.
  • H J on Proverbs 5 - 2 years ago
    Several issues that all come together as 1. I was raised in a Holy Roller environment, An environment that about everything you did was pretty much sinful, women wearing pants, people wearing jewelry, wedding bands a sin, A man with long hair will go to hell. This is only to name 3 or 4 of such I feel to be ignorant. But now these same Christians that practiced those laws and rules have now put on pants, wear jewelry, talk about their neighbors and about anything they so choose to do, and now think they are Children of God. My opinion. They were God's Children then and God's Children now but they sure brainwashed a lot of the youth even to a point they had the youth afraid to know God for they were doomed either way.

    I have been married twice but is only 1 of those marriages legit by God's rules?OR Have I ever been married ever as because both women I married had been married and divorced before I met and married them, (Traditional marriages as known by man,) But were those marriages made by God? Should not a woman and man be given to each other by GOD, and not man for it to be a lawful marriage? A Lawful marriage unto God. I am not here to do as men think I should I am here to do as God said, Both women I married as we would surely know they were married before me SURLY they would not be virgins and already defiled. Have I really been married> By God's standards or am I committing an act of fornication or even some type of adultury? My idea is these marriages of mine were traditional marriages > MAN-MADE MARRIAGES and I do believe there is a scripture that speaks we are to be careful as to traditions. They can get us in trouble as to God's Laws. Again Is not God the only one that can give a man and woman to each other, By man's Laws I know I have been married twice BUT by Gods Laws have I ever been married at all (PERIOD) Really I am not trying to be funny I am being serious. Please be serious and not be presenting me with man's Laws.Let's stick to this Bibical
  • SPENCER SHAW - In Reply on Proverbs 5 - 2 years ago
    Wormwood is an odorous, perennial shrub native to Europe and naturalized in the northeastern, central, and northwestern United States. Its aromatic leaves have a strong sage odor and bitter taste, and its multibranched stems are covered with fine, silky hairs. The plant has a fibrous root system and grows to about 1.2 m tall.

    the bible talks about but the water being turned into wormwood in revolution. a punishment God sends to people on the earth in the last days. not that it is actually wormwood implying that its going to be bad to drink

    [ Rev 8:11 KJV] 11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.

    the star named wormwood is some angel
  • Teresa on Proverbs 5 - 2 years ago
    Is wormwood a preventative measure for illness, or a descriptive term for punishment?
  • Chris - In Reply on Proverbs 5 - 3 years ago
    1 Corinthians 10:7-15: "And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband: But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife."

    "But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away. And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him. For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy. But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace."

    This passage of Scripture gives one of the best accounts in a difficult marriage. However, the first part of that passage speaks of a wife who for some reason, wants to separate or divorce; she should remain unmarried or be reconciled to her husband.

    The rest of the passage speaks of a non-Christian & Christian spouse, that they should remain together if they're happy to do so (I think this assumes that some issue has arisen prompting the departure of one); but for whatever it takes, they should try to sort it out & remain together. But if one does separate or divorces, then that is allowed, as they should no longer be under "bondage". Some would take this word to mean that they are free to remarry after divorce, though, given the Scripture that "the twain shall be one flesh" ( Mark 10:8), I take it to mean that both will need to remain unmarried.

    And in the case of a spouse committing adultery, he/she would need to get right before God & with the other spouse. But if the other spouse finds no more favor in him/her, then divorce seems appropriate, but again both remaining unmarried until one of them passes away.
  • Freddie on Proverbs 5 - 3 years ago
    Can you divorce a person for committing adultery according to the Bible
  • Rochelle Hardin on Proverbs 5 - 3 years ago
    Where does it state in the bible about herpes
  • Stephanie Barentine - In Reply on Proverbs 5 - 3 years ago
    Oh no I understand, thank you so much.
  • SkipVought - In Reply on Proverbs 5 - 3 years ago
    Stephanie,

    "And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished: But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ." 2Co 3:13-14

    7-8 IF the ministration of death (glory to be done away) THEN the ministration of the spirit (rather glorious)

    9 IF the ministration of condemnation (be glory) THEN the ministration of righteousness (exceed in glory)

    11 IF that which is done away (WAS glorious), THEN much more that which remaineth (IS glorious)

    When Moses went before The Lord, his face shined. So he put a veil over his face when he talked with the people.

    13-14 Paul says contrary to what Moses had to do, Paul didn't need to do that. Referring to the unbelieving Jews of old up to that day, who had hard unregenerate hearts THAT WERE COVERED LIKE A VEIL. BUT whenever someone turns to God in faith, the VEIL IS LIFTED.

    "But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord." 2Co 3:18

    The unbeliever has a veil over his eyes of understanding. But whenever someone turns to God, the veil is removed.
  • Stephanie on Proverbs 5 - 3 years ago
    I was reading 2 Corinthians 3: 13-14

    And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:

    14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.

    I do not understand what this means. Could someone educate me please and thank you?
  • Pochalla Banak on Proverbs 5 - 3 years ago
    It is good for a man who has two wives to be chosen as a leader or to be baptized as Pastor at church?
  • Dawn Bunn on Proverbs 5 - 3 years ago
    Are the father,son and the Holy spirit one
  • Mild Bill - In Reply on Proverbs 5 - 3 years ago
    DeLonne Jones,

    "How does a pastor's wife forgive him for adulterous behavior of 6 years?" "Clearly repentance & Godley sorrowful."

    I would say that your forgiveness is dependent on believing the truth of his repentence. However, it is something you will probably never forget. Obviously your situation is made more difficult by his illness and a true healing of the marriage may never reach to your satisfaction. In accepting your role of care giver you have demonstrated your love for him and the vows you voiced. What you have shown is what is true about love, namely, that is based on a commitment and not feelings. You should understand that his dementia will produce numerous instances of hurt to your feelings. That is a byproduct of the illness and would occur even without his infidelity.

    Your best and only true help, the repair to your heart, is in what comes from your relationship with God. "I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee" Hebrews 13:5 There may very well come a time when for physical or spiritual reasons you cannot go on as his caregiver. I trust you will find it hard to bare, because it will be to you as him being dead/estranged. I pray you will find a morning in your days to come when joy will again fill your heart.
  • Sacha - In Reply on Proverbs 5 - 3 years ago
    Im so very sorry for you ,there is no way i am going to try and tell what you should do and i dont think any one else here would either . You must be heart broken . Do you not have a female friend you can trust to talk to ,it will help you im sure to talk to some one who knows you and your husband , strictly speaking you are free to do what ever you want to but please think very carefully before making a major decision that will impact the rest of your life ,please find a friend and have a chat ,you need support .It doesnt even need to be some one you actually like ,just some one you know is trustworthy and understanding .
  • DaLonne Jones on Proverbs 5 - 3 years ago
    Question? How does a pastor's wife forgive him for adulterous behavior of 6 years? Especially when he is diagnosed with Parkinson & Dementia and can't help me work through this devastating trial in our lives. He had to retire as an educator also. I had to retire to be his care provider. We live far away from family & I feel so alone most days. He often makes commitments to me that is clearly from that secret life. I know he's taking to the other woman. Yet, there are times when he doesn't remember me or where he is. Counseling requires both of us to be able to communicate. Our financial situation was really terrible but better now. Tthoughts of his past, so separate from my own are driving me in & out of depression/despair. I have no one, professionally I can talk to. His church does not know nor his immediate family. I know only what I found in his phone about the other woman. He admitted the affair. Clearly repentance & Godley sorrowful. But is no help with healing our marriage. I'm up & down. I need help. We've be. married 39 years this April.
  • BSP on Proverbs 5 - 4 years ago
    Verse 18-God wants husbands to rejoice with their wife. Romantic interests must be confined to one's own mate.
  • Israel - In Reply on Proverbs 5 - 4 years ago
    Keeping God's commandments is the safest place. His commandments keeps Israel from sin, no other nations. Not knowing Christ does not keep Israel in sin, Jesus Christ is Israel's Savior, He died so that Israel would be able to repent of their sins. Not keeping God's commandments is what keeps Israel on sin. Shalom
  • Pat on Proverbs 5 - 4 years ago
    I have noticed a word change happening in these text. Proverbs 5:20 for example. Immoral women has been replaced with a strange woman. Zion replaced with Sion in another verse, I cannot remember where I caught that one? I am using my KJV Bible as my reference which this is supposed to be?


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