Psalms Chapter 139 Discussion



 
  • Kenneth shorter on Psalms 139 - 1 year ago
    that chapter is my favorite one in indeed god is evey were it maks me cry evey time i read that chapter i love god with endurance love we are at time judjmentday is coming mater of time be ready borthers and sisters it is on you ?
  • Haleywife16@gmail.com on Psalms 139 - 1 year ago
    Beautiful ,beautiful beautiful, our father who art in heaven, hallowed, hallowed, hallowed, be ( thy name)
  • Richard H Priday on Psalms 139 - 2 years ago
    These verses by David show God's design before birth (verse 5-6) as well as in the future whether in heaven or hell (verse 8). There are some who would read the verses in Jonah and indicate that indeed he was dead under the earth (with his body remaining in the whale but his soul in sheol) in Jonah 2:6. The passages referring to the lowest hell being underneath the mountains also exist in Deut. 32:22.

    Whatever the actual case in Jonah; for God's CHOSEN people He is certainly with them and cannot escape His presence. What is different; of course with believers and those NOT written in the Book of Life is that any grace is withdrawn; all are naked in Sheol for the wicked ( Job 26:6). For now; captivity has been taken captive; and there is no compartment anymore for the righteous in hell; for to be "absent from the body is to be present with the Lord." ( 2 Cor. 5:8); see also Eph. 4:8; Psalm 68:18. Verses 15-18 continue to describe God's foreknowledge and unlimited wisdom. Immediately after this; there is an impreccatory section in v. 19-22; followed by David's plea to discipline or chastise Him at the end of the Psalm to remove any wickedness; which He does to prune all of His saints. ( Hebrews 12:6; Rev. 3:19).

    In order to have such an attitude of perfect love and perfect HATRED; we need to have His perfect righteousness. Therefore; we learn to love what He loves (which is against the flesh and it's desires); and hate what He hates as the Spirit and His Word reveal to us. It is not sinners themselves but sin in general as well as the god of this world that are our enemies. This will come when Isaiah 24:21 is fulfilled. David had his faults; but He spent much time meditating and praising the Lord and was himself a humble man from the start. When he did sin; he would acknowledge it without resistance when confronted with it. Without Nathan the prophet and God's chastisement with the census who knows how much more debased David could have become
  • Philip Christian Parks on Psalms 139 - 2 years ago
    "Do not I (the Psalmist) hate them, O LORD, them that hate THEE (The LORD)" ( Ps. 139:21) =

    The Psalmist presented this question rhetorically. Here, both occurrences of "hate" translate from the same Hebrew verb root (transliterated "sane"; pronounced "saw-NAY").

    Both "hatreds" are personal, hating GOD's enemies' personally and their very existence. The wicked intensely hate the PERSON of The LORD. Responsively, the Psalmist hates the person who hates The LORD. The grammatical verb patterns affect the interpretations.

    The hate of the Psalmist is a Qal stem verb, meaning the action is a simple fact without further description of degree. The same Psalmist expressed the same sentiment in another Psalm ( Ps. 31:6):

    "I have hated them that regard lying vanities: but I trust in The LORD."

    The hate of those that hate The LORD is a Piel stem verb, meaning they hate more intensely and intentionally. The wicked hate aggressively and act out their emotional hatred with violence when they "rise up" (v.21) against The LORD.

    In The New Testament, CHRIST commanded Christians to respond to hatred with love, blessings, good deeds, and prayer ( Mt. 5:44; Lu. 6:28). Yet, Christian love and hate do not mutually exclude one another. A true, mature, spiritual Christian is equipped to love and hate the wicked simultaneously and equally.

    Due to the enemies' thorough wickedness (v.19), and of their expressed ill-use of The LORD's PERSON and of HIS NAME (v.20), and of their hatred toward HIM, obviously the next expectation is their hostile rebellion and forceful attack against HIM ("rise up against"; v.21).

    The qualifying term "perfect" in the expression "perfect hatred" (v.22) is synonymous with "complete" and "absolute". They were the Psalmist's "enemies" because they hate The LORD (v.21).
  • Marke on Psalms 139:15 - 2 years ago
    Psalm 139

    19 Surely thou wilt slay the wicked, O God: depart from me therefore, ye bloody men.

    20 For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain.

    21 Do not I hate them, O Lord, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee?

    22 I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.

    Christians are not to love the world neither the things in the world and are to have disgust for those who openly defy and blaspheme God with venom.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Psalms 139 - 2 years ago
    T. Levi's

    Thank You, I remember those who welcomed my warmly when I came here a few months ago. Just passing it on.

    Thank you for all of your contributions.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Psalms 139 - 2 years ago
    'Gigi' you always are so welcoming to everyone, it seems. I just wanted to say that, very kind of you. Yes very welcome
  • GiGi - In Reply on Psalms 139 - 2 years ago
    Nice to have you here Hattie. I love Psalm 139 also.

    I would love to hear what you learned! Please feel free to share your findings on this Psalm.
  • T Levis - In Reply on Psalms 139 - 2 years ago
    Yes, I very much love this one!! In our darkest hours, to remind me/us HE knows us & created everything about me/us. A reminder to be encouraged, even though difficult to comprehend he has many precious thoughts towards me.
  • Sister Hattie on Psalms 139 - 2 years ago
    I was blessed with a clearer understanding of God's word after reading Psalms 139. Thank you Heavenly Father.
  • Mishael - In Reply on Psalms 139 - 2 years ago
    King James Bible is what many of us use. Some like other versions, like the NIV.

    Sometimes I find really good like new Bibles at Goodwill stores. I got a brand new Strongs Concordance one day. :D. Yay

    Walmart has reasonable priced Bibles.

    I think the Hardbound breaks easier. Vinyl is good. Zipper book covers shield it from damage and car heat.

    A used looking Bible is Friend that sticks by you. People are curious to read what we scribbled all over our Bibles. So I donate them to nursing homes; or sometimes a Park Bench.

    I pray for the Lord to send an angel to guide the next owner to the bench! :)

    It's all good!
  • Shanterial Collins on Psalms 139 - 2 years ago
    I do but then I really dont because I dont know where it came from and if dont think its the right Version either but recently I dropped it and so its coming apart/or missings pages also
  • Kent Dupree Bass - In Reply on Psalms 139 - 2 years ago
    Amen Manuel Teixeira. Jesus is the only begotten Son of the eternal Father. The lamb without blemish. He is our propitiation for our sins that are passed through the forbearance. We should direct all our glory unto him.
  • Gigi - In Reply on Psalms 139 - 2 years ago
    Manuel

    Love your post

    All glory, honor, praise be given the Jesus Christ out Savior and Lord. To Him belongs all authority, power, wisdom, and strength now and forevermore. He is our Great God, who together with the Father and the Holy Spirit are worshipped and glorified. All in heaven and on earth will bow to Him, King of kings and Lord of lords. We are so blessed to know Him and be known by Him!
  • Manuel Teixeira on Psalms 139 - 2 years ago
    Faith in Jesus' Faith is everything in mankind's and my life. because Jesus is the only one one who ressurected after living a perfect sinless human life, Therefore He has been accepted as our representative before God's Throne. Jesus also has authority, to inpart his justice to mankind. The only thing I need is accept an love Him. I can look for life on wrong places, learn that lesson, and try again on the right way. There is only One who has overcome death! I dont have anyone else to help on this matter. Where can I find Jesus? on the Word of God. Jesus indicates and gives crdit, to the bible writen on His days, whe talking to the disciples on Emas's road. And today we stil have the old testament. the new testament is about Jesus second comming as the old was about the Messiah, Whom is Jesus ressurected, interceeding on Heavenly Sanctuary, as the High priest did simbolicaly on earth sanctuary, once a year on attonment's day.

    The faith comes by reading the bible as Jesus teaches His disciples. Faith like love comes by knowing the person and talking to her. prayer is simple as asking a favor to an elder brother. Thats what the good thief did on the cross, and as he recieved The answer he needed we can recieve it too, because the last enemy to be vanquished is death, and Jesus is wiling to give me and you, His victory over death simply by love and faith on His sacrifice done just by Love and Faith also, as man's son! God's secret is that Jesus is at the same time The begotten son of God Almighty, and has the Power to give eternal life, to me and whosoever believes and loves Him according with the holy scriptures, wich Jesu accomplish as He stated on His last words spoken on the cross. May God put in your heart and will of power, the resolution to ask God's forgivness and look for Jesus, on the right place, The Holy Bible. Our fiel of chrystian labor and duty, is to act according with Jesus's good deeds, and example, towards our neighbor. men!
  • Apral Roberts on Psalms 139 - 2 years ago
    I really really need pasalm121
  • Angela Harris - In Reply on Psalms 139 - 2 years ago
    Mr. Gerry you saved the cat and he saved you. He has done what he came to do. Thomas is now saving someone else. Thomas is and angel send by God.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Psalms 139 - 2 years ago
    Oh, Gerry, I am sorry that your cat companion is missing. I pray that this cat will find its way home to you once again soon. Our pets five us so much solace in hard times. Having a stroke is life changing! My friend had hers at age 38. it as been 27 years now. She definitely taught me to have a thankful spirit, as she has had, even though she struggles with depression as does her husband and children. She has had a rough go of life, but is an inspiration to me to work at being cheerful and grateful in all circumstances. I hope you can find such a place of mind as this amidst your troubles.

    What is your kitty's name?
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} prayers for infirmities - In Reply on Psalms 139 - 2 years ago
    Precious friend, Gerry Shaver, I will pray for you; please Be Encouraged In The LORD JESUS CHRIST

    2 Corinthians 12:9 God's Power Of ALL-Sufficient GRACE in our weaknesses and infirmities:

    "PEACE With God," and knowing what good "tribulation worketh in us" Romans 5:1-5

    "For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us." Romans 8:18

    The Spirit "helps our infirmities, And Prays For us" Romans 8:26

    The Spirit "Intercedes For us, According To The Will Of God" Romans 8:27

    God Makes "all things Work Together For Good," for HIS Own Romans 8:28

    We are "Predestinated To Be Conformed To The Image Of God's SON" Romans 8:29

    God Helps us "bear our testings" 1 Corinthians 10:13

    We have The Wonderful "Comfort Of God!" 2 Corinthians 1:3-4

    "For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a Far More Exceeding and Eternal Weight of Glory" 2 Corinthians 4:17

    God will "change our vile body" to be "like HIS Glorious Body!" Philippians 3:21

    Amen?

    Conclusion:

    "For our infirmities/sufferings"? Should we not "follow Paul our 'pattern'" 1 Ti 1:16?:

    "And HE Said Unto me, My GRACE Is Sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that The Power of CHRIST may rest upon me. Therefore I take pleasure in infirmities, in reproaches, in necessities, in persecutions, in distresses for CHRIST's Sake: for when I am weak, then am I strong." 2 Corinthians 12:9-10

    Amen? And Amen.

    Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified!

    2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery fellowship {Romans - Philemon}, For ALL "to SEE," today,?

    God's 'Simple' Will: Link
  • GERRY SHAVER on Psalms 139 - 2 years ago
    I may be on the wrong site to ask this but reading your faith points in answers to discuss questions im desperate for prayers im a stroke survivor i rescued a cat but the cat rescued me from depression after stroke i said i know god sent him now my dear thomas is missing for a week today im standing in faith believing i will have him back when youve done all you can do stand and i am but please feel my broken heart and pray he is an indoor cat and slipped out someway im desperate and my back is against the wall it seems like someone has died in my house help in anyway you can words of encouragement scriptures etc
  • DOES GOD ANSWER OUR PRAYERS? - In Reply on Psalms 139 - 2 years ago
    Yes he does, always. David was upset, maybe angry at circumstances he felt was out of his control.

    God waits until we settle ourselves. Like in Psalm 23. We rest, get ourselves quieted. Wait upon the Lord. Then he responds to us by the person of the Holy Spirit, now.

    As an example, in Daniel chapters 9-10: Daniel prayed to the Lord; expecting a speedy answer, but it was delayed. Finally Gabriel the Archangel appears with a message. Daniel 9:21

    Daniel had been fasting; he was visited by an Archangel again. Daniel 10: 5-21

    Michael the Archangel had to fight off principalities and powers, so Gabriel could get the message to Daniel.

    See, sometimes it takes fasting and prayer and waiting on the answer, but it will come. If there is a delay of the answer, we are to stand fast with our faith. Jesus doesn't have to send Archangels to give us answers now. We have The Holy Spirit within us. He speaks to our born again spirit. We just have to listen, until He does. He may give you a scripture or passage to read.

    My best advice: turn off the media and sit before the Lord and listen. Calm yourself. Write down anything that comes into your spirit.

    Mishael
  • Naa on Psalms 139 - 2 years ago
    Does God answer No
  • David king manelli on Psalms 139 - 2 years ago
    Good lesson, I'm learn this
  • Dianne - In Reply on Psalms 139 - 2 years ago
    OCJ Very nice points
  • Other Comments on JOB - In Reply on Psalms 139 - 2 years ago
    The thing that oft gets missed, is that Satan was lurking around Job. Spying on his habit of making sacrifices for his "partying" children. Satan perceived that maybe ? Job was fearful. He rolled the dice and approached God for permission to get at Job.

    God knew Jobs heart. Job was a righteous man/human. He had relationship with God. He was a praying father of his children. He lifted them up in prayer and the sacrifice of praise and more.

    The thing we need to see here, is that Satan spies on everyone. He sends his Familiar Spirits to spy on everyone and report back. Then Satan goes before the Throne and ACCUSES us to the Father.

    Then Jesus is sent for, to check the Book of Life for our name. If it is in there, CASE IS DISMISSED for lack of evidence. Everything past, present and future does Not Appear. Not Guilty.

    The evidence was taken to the Cross and nailed to it. Blood washed it away.

    Jesus deserves for us to get this firmly in our hearts. Not to sin because we can; but to reverence Jesus for disposing of it. Not Guilty.

    Remember that Satan prowls around us as a roaring Lion.

    I remind him almost every day of Satan and his demons, of their future.

    Be strong in the Lord and in the Power of His Might.

    LISTEN for that ACCUSING voice. Take it to the Throne. I want to be a kid that knows who his Daddy is. Underneath the feathers of His Wings.
  • Dianne - In Reply on Psalms 139 - 2 years ago
    Mishael In addition to what you shared concerning Job when Satan presented Himself to God Basically He Told God If you take your hand away from Him He'll Curse You, I would like to believe that when Satan took everything that the true God Blessed Job, God knew Jobs heart and Job Never Blamed God. Incredible when His wife argued and His Miserable friends tempted Him to Blame God. The true God told Satan Don't touch Jobs life, and in the end as you said Mishael He received more than He Had. He even witnessed to His friends in the middle of His tribulation what a man.
  • Suicide and the Spirit of Death - In Reply on Psalms 139 - 2 years ago
    Mark, As for your question, let me reassure you that suicide is not an unforgivable sin. Therefore, if a true believer commits suicide, though their life ended with a sin under tragic circumstances, they are still saved by the blood of Christ. The grace of God through the death and resurrection of Christ covers all sins past, present, and future. A sin that ends your life is no more potent than one that doesn't. God's grace is more powerful and covers it all. So, rest assured that ____ is in the presence of the Lord. The apostle Paul is clear on this in Philippians 1:21-23. He says that when we depart from the body (death) we are then with Christ. This goes for all believers, not just ones that didn't commit suicide.

    ABOUT THE SPIRIT OF DEATH. Had some experience with this when I was younger. Death seemed to be a soft blanket to shield me from losses in life.

    The following is a list to help you discern whether or not you are being attacked by a spirit of death.

    * You experience difficulty finding work to support your family.

    * There is an onslaught of sickness and disease reoccurring in your body.

    * You are battling with discouraging thoughts to give up the fight and die.

    * You are dealing with a barrage of accidents and strange events that can lead to death.

    * You are struggling with suicidal thoughts.

    * You fight against thoughts of harming others

    * You engage in behaviors and activities that invite death, such as reckless driving, drug and alcohol abuse, and other negative habits that display a death wish.

    I believe a spirit of death tried to take Jobs life. It spied on what Job was fearful of losing. Job had nothing left, homeless,sick,"friends" blamed him; all he had was faith in God. He trusted in God no matter what happened.

    He was healed, got a new wife, more kids, wealth; and a deeper knowledge of who God is. Our faith is valuable. Job didn't have a Bible, but he knew God, respected God: what I learned myself. Mishael
  • Dianne - In Reply on Psalms 139 - 2 years ago
    Jesse Trust me bro your'e not a nerd, you were trying to figure out a type error.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Psalms 139 - 2 years ago
    Hi Dianne,

    I think I'm agreeing with what you're saying if I'm understanding you correctly. I was "racking my brain" trying to figure out what "Hog good" meant but I figured out that you meant to say (how good) the true God is. You are telling me that "Suicide is not of The Will of the True God," and I agree with you completely on that. But what I am wondering about is if you're telling me that based on something I said in my post? I re-read what I typed and I said "I don't think God satisfaction in a person taking their own life." Were you responding to that? If so, I agree, that doesn't make any sense at all! What it was supposed to say is "I don't think God (takes any) satisfaction in a person taking their own life."

    That's what I get for not proofreading before hitting the submit button. I'm such a nerd!
  • Sacha - In Reply on Psalms 139 - 2 years ago
    Hi Fred , loneliness can destroy people , it's not just about being physically alone but it can be about believing that no one cares about you , I lived alone for quite a few years and never felt lonely ,there are others who can't bare to be alone for even a couple of hours , I have relatives that some people say they talk too much , they phone too often , they turn up unexpectedly , they are always asking if they can help me in any way , all these people live alone , as Christians we must , I say must , pay special attention to people who live alone , if they start to believe that no one cares about them they can go down hill very quickly , it's our responsibility , it's our duty , to make sure that none of our members feel unloved uncared for unimportant unvalued or insignificant .


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