Verse 16-We never want to think that our standards are more righteous than God's standards. We must conform our way of life to His standards of right and wrong.
Diane by no means do you put up with abuse of any kind. You are a child of GOD, a Christian; not a 2nd class citizen and Christians should never let anyone walk on them. In Mathew 18:15-:20 you admonish them showing them the error of their way and if they don't ask for forgiveness and repent than rebuke them and set them aside ( Romans 16:17). That means don't hang out with them, putting yourself through any chance for abuse, don't hate them but be pleasant like it doesn't bother you, live your life as a Christian who will be blessed. When they see how good your life is, then they will want it too. These people you are talking about do not sound like Christians to me, if they were they would not abuse. Therefore you do not put up with them but put them aside until/if they have a change of heart. Yes love your enemies if they have turned from their ways and accepted CHRIST. Talk to them and tell them how you feel if that does no good then live in peace and harmony knowing their sin is not on you. 2 Thessalonians 3:6-:14 Luke 17:3,4. Someone has to ask for forgiveness to receive it. When that happens they must repent and have a complete change of heart, making a commitment to never do it again. You are under no obligation to forgive one that does not come to you and ask. But for your own health, in your own heart it is better that you do and move on, because it will turn to hate and bitterness where the devil will sneak in.
Sometimes when we feel one is letting us down and we feel we don't deserve it we have to think of what Jesus endured in our behalf.
2 Corinthians 5:21. For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
The Lord of mercy died for us while we were yet sinners! Romans 5:8.
To fully appreciate that, in order for us to do anything for someone we would probably want them to straighten their lives up first. But he's love, rich in mercy, longsuffering and forgiving. That's something we're "naturally not. These are fruit of the Spirit. In Matthew 5:43-44 Jesus is saying what is expected out of believers.
This is Jesus spirit working a work in us. We are continuously pray and grow in grace. It's not something we can manifest on our own.
Knowing When it's Time To Do Spiritusl Warfare - In Reply on Ecclesiastes 7 - 1 year ago
You're really being tested on forgiveness. Jesus said if someone slaps you, offer the other cheek too. If someone takes your coat, give your sweater too. Give to all that are rude and as for it. They are heaping coals on their own heads without knowing it.
That's why you have to forgive. Let it go, in Jesus Name. He will repay you for trusting in what that scripture teaches.
It would be useful for you to read Ephesians 6. Your true enemies are invisible. Google the Armor of God and choose. BibleStudyRef or BibleStudyTools, websites. Read of what each piece of armor does and how it protects you from the spiritual warfare you experience.
If we don't know what Jesus has given us, to fight back against invisible beings, we get deflated and wonder why we're being picked on. Evil spirits don't pick on people who have the SWORD OF THE LORD, in their mouth. That meaning, Bible Scriptures.
I pray them under my breath so only the evil spirits hear me. Command them to leave, go into outer darkness, and never return: in JESUS NAME. Amen means, SO BE IT.
Always pray in the Name of Jesus, by Jesus's Power and Authority.
If you want to know more, listen to my friend Charles Capps (on youtube). "Authority of the Believer." He was a Texan like me, talks with a drawl__and he went to be in heaven. His teaching is one of the best. I took notes and glued them in the back of my raggedy Bible.
When I found out I can put some serious hurt on the devils (under my breath) was a good day for me & a bad day for those invisible evil things. They must leave.
Your true friends will stick by your side. Ask the Holy Spirit to give you His gift of "Discerning the Spirits." That's in 1 Corinthians chapters 12-14.
Release the peace of the Lord over all of your friends and family.
Glad to see you here, Victor. May the Lord God guide you in reading from His Word & meditations upon it. It is indeed the satisfying bread for our soul. And feel free to offer comments or ask questions; we can all be exercised in our faith & spirit by doing so. Every blessing.
i dont know how i stubble to this page but i've never seen anything like it. God bless the organizers of this page cuz it going to be my daily reading site from now on. love the comments section sharing more light.
Hi Robert, I think you're looking at the Bible reference next to the commenters' name. That's misleading as often that reference has nothing to do with the subject matter - it's seems to be a random Scripture selection. In this thread, the subject is on water baptism & Adam has given the correct response.
There is nothing in Ecclesiastes that says to disobey Christ. What specifically are you talking about? In fact, nothing in the bible anywhere says to disobey Christ. I think there may be a misunderstanding.
A lot of words were written there with the goal of disobeying Jesus? I would think Christ followers would be excited to obey Christ. The Bible clearly says to be baptized. It's not complicated. Acts 2:38
Put another way, there's no downside and only upside to obeying Christ and being baptized, right? So, why all the effort to justify disobeying and convince others to do the same?
Mark, Precious friend, there is NO water baptism, today, Under God's GRACE. ie:
Does God Require water baptism, today? IF yes, then, we have to find out WHICH of the Many Various "denominational traditions" is the Correct one, Correct?
However, IF God Says "NO," as I believe All Scripture Shows below, then "yes" is OUT of the question, yes?:
"Summary study" on this Important Issue:
Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!
The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =
A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6)
+
B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16)
Prophecy/Law
Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That Differ!:
Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:
Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?:
Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,
Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!!
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Conclusion: God's ONE Baptism Today? = ONE OR, EQUALS TWO?
Is it not Possible That God's Answer Of "No water baptism, for us Today," Under HIS Pure GRACE, absolutely vanquishes the {Many Severely DIVIDED denominations?} Confusion into oblivion!? Also, "...we walk By FAITH, Not by sight..." ( 2 Corinthians 5:7) Amen?
Mark, Precious friend, Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!
On your question of water baptism being 'required' for salvation. The apostle Paul in his letters spoke many times of living for the Lord and the many characteristics that would confirm that new nature. Salvation is twofold. First, one must trust Christ as Savior for the forgiveness of their sins. Secondly, and of equal weight, they must embrace Him as Lord of their life. When one comes to the realization of their wretched state in relation to God, they should call upon the Lord for his mercy to forgive them their trespasses and then be prepared to receive the grace provided by the Holy Spirit to follow His mandates, statutes, and commands. Among the first of these would be water immersion, if possible.
But, if not possible for reasons of location, current physical condition or other unique factors, God would not negate the forgiveness of sins for that believer. He would simply start the walk of obedience from that point on. If situations are permitted in future time, the Holy Spirit could be relied upon to prompt that person to complete that obligation then.
Remember, faith and obedience. They go hand in hand for the follower of Christ and God.
This very simple: do you want to follow Jesus or not?
If you want to follow Jesus, Jesus said to be baptized in Matthew 28:19.
It also says to be baptized in Acts 2:38.
So, it's very simple- either you follow what Jesus says or you don't. Those who follow Jesus are called Christ-followers or Christians. Genuine Christians have an opporunity to have their sins forgiven and spend eternity with God. I want that, but strangely most don't and are only interested in figuring out how to do the bare minimum while mostly seeking pleasure in sin and doing whatever they want. Motives must be questioned of anyone that doesn't want to follow Jesus's teachings or are seeking to do the bare minimum. It's really one or the other. Either we follow Jesus or we don't. God bless.
please answer this Im confessed I was told you have to baptized to go to Heaven and I heard from my son that a preacher told him you dont i was raised by my Christian Grandmother and she said you do
The scriptures say "there is no unrighteous in God" ( Proverbs 92:15). So, if there is no righteousness in God, I would think that the other one that the Lord was mentioning was satan. Otherwise, they (God and Satan) are both spiritual beings that identify good vs evil. When God created man in a human bodily form he only knew what was good, (that came from God) until he ate from the forbidden tree. Once man sinned against God by eating from the tree and listened to the voice of the enemy (the devil), his eyes were opened to see what was now evil, just as it was with satan when he also turned his back on God. This is my own personal interpretation.
Thank you Chris for the kind words, and the encouragement. You have truly blessed my evening. May God continue to use you in this manner of uplifting others. God Bless and Merry Christmas...
The Lord has indeed given you back your life & your daughter. That was wonderful to read & to praise His Name for. The restoration of your relationship with your daughter of course brings on an active pursuit by both of you to build upon. The things that go hand-in-hand in any deep & meaningful relationship is: understanding, communication & readiness to apologize & forgive. So many relationships suffer through lack of these, even one.
I'm sure that it's in your heart to build up on what God has done for you both. Every blessing as you step out in God's Strength & Wisdom, stepping out in each new day holding onto Him & in faith being the Mother & confidant you need to be for her & that she seeks from you.
In reference to Verse 9 of Ecclesiastes chapter 7, God answered a prayer for me today, I finally got my daughter to let go of anger, and help us rebuild our relationship. This will forever be the verse I refer to where God answered my prayer. He is an awesome GOD, not only curing my Cancer but now giving me back my daughter. I will forever praise HIS HOLY NAME!!
As I watch the heartache, deceit, betrayal, and selfishness in crumbling marriages all around, couldn't this verse be referring to the end of sorrows for some and the potential for likely pain, albeit in growth, for the other? I'm finding little desire to go to any wedding celebrations bc it means stretching and growth and potentially heartache and separation.
I don't think that there is a Scripture specifically on that. Suicide, or self-murder, may fall under the same command from God, "Thou shalt not kill", or wilfully take a person's life. Even though, the intent of that command would apply to the murder of someone else which is sin & damnable, it could well be applied to one who takes his own life. We often hear from suicide supporters that "this is my body & I have the right to do what I want with it". Actually, this body is not ours - it is a gift from God so that our spirits can be housed in it to enjoy God's creation & living a God-centred life (though of course, most keep God out of their lives & minds).
With someone who murders another, as heinous a sin that it is, he still has a chance to repent, be forgiven, be born again & gain eternal life. A person who commits suicide (murders himself) obviously has no chance at all to receive God's forgiveness & so we conclude that he is an unforgiven sinner under God's judgement. But of course, that is God's (not our) final judgement of that person because of the situation he's in, as no person who suicides does it without going through some deep waters in his life.
Esau is the most powerful oppressor of all the nation's of heathens, and he try to cover up his wickedness of the people by giving them the gift of money. And in turn, the people are destroyed.
Sometimes when we feel one is letting us down and we feel we don't deserve it we have to think of what Jesus endured in our behalf.
2 Corinthians 5:21. For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
The Lord of mercy died for us while we were yet sinners! Romans 5:8.
To fully appreciate that, in order for us to do anything for someone we would probably want them to straighten their lives up first. But he's love, rich in mercy, longsuffering and forgiving. That's something we're "naturally not. These are fruit of the Spirit. In Matthew 5:43-44 Jesus is saying what is expected out of believers.
This is Jesus spirit working a work in us. We are continuously pray and grow in grace. It's not something we can manifest on our own.
I hope this helps.
God bless.
That's why you have to forgive. Let it go, in Jesus Name. He will repay you for trusting in what that scripture teaches.
It would be useful for you to read Ephesians 6. Your true enemies are invisible. Google the Armor of God and choose. BibleStudyRef or BibleStudyTools, websites. Read of what each piece of armor does and how it protects you from the spiritual warfare you experience.
If we don't know what Jesus has given us, to fight back against invisible beings, we get deflated and wonder why we're being picked on. Evil spirits don't pick on people who have the SWORD OF THE LORD, in their mouth. That meaning, Bible Scriptures.
I pray them under my breath so only the evil spirits hear me. Command them to leave, go into outer darkness, and never return: in JESUS NAME. Amen means, SO BE IT.
Always pray in the Name of Jesus, by Jesus's Power and Authority.
If you want to know more, listen to my friend Charles Capps (on youtube). "Authority of the Believer." He was a Texan like me, talks with a drawl__and he went to be in heaven. His teaching is one of the best. I took notes and glued them in the back of my raggedy Bible.
When I found out I can put some serious hurt on the devils (under my breath) was a good day for me & a bad day for those invisible evil things. They must leave.
Your true friends will stick by your side. Ask the Holy Spirit to give you His gift of "Discerning the Spirits." That's in 1 Corinthians chapters 12-14.
Release the peace of the Lord over all of your friends and family.
Streetpreacher
No longer I but Christ Who lives in me...
Original Earthly nature -life hidden in Christ... Colossians 3:3
New creature in Christ...
The real I - is no longer in control and thank JESUS for that!
2 Corinthians 5:17
New International Version
17 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come:[a] The old has gone, the new is here!
2 Timothy 3:12
"Yea, and all that will live GODly in Christ JESUS shall suffer persecution."
King James Version (KJV)
Put another way, there's no downside and only upside to obeying Christ and being baptized, right? So, why all the effort to justify disobeying and convince others to do the same?
Does God Require water baptism, today? IF yes, then, we have to find out WHICH of the Many Various "denominational traditions" is the Correct one, Correct?
However, IF God Says "NO," as I believe All Scripture Shows below, then "yes" is OUT of the question, yes?:
"Summary study" on this Important Issue:
Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!
The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =
A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6)
+
B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16)
Prophecy/Law
Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That Differ!:
Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:
Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?:
Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,
Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!!
( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4)
( 1 Corinthians 12:13)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Conclusion: God's ONE Baptism Today? = ONE OR, EQUALS TWO?
Is it not Possible That God's Answer Of "No water baptism, for us Today," Under HIS Pure GRACE, absolutely vanquishes the {Many Severely DIVIDED denominations?} Confusion into oblivion!? Also, "...we walk By FAITH, Not by sight..." ( 2 Corinthians 5:7) Amen?
Mark, Precious friend, Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!
But, if not possible for reasons of location, current physical condition or other unique factors, God would not negate the forgiveness of sins for that believer. He would simply start the walk of obedience from that point on. If situations are permitted in future time, the Holy Spirit could be relied upon to prompt that person to complete that obligation then.
Remember, faith and obedience. They go hand in hand for the follower of Christ and God.
This very simple: do you want to follow Jesus or not?
If you want to follow Jesus, Jesus said to be baptized in Matthew 28:19.
It also says to be baptized in Acts 2:38.
So, it's very simple- either you follow what Jesus says or you don't. Those who follow Jesus are called Christ-followers or Christians. Genuine Christians have an opporunity to have their sins forgiven and spend eternity with God. I want that, but strangely most don't and are only interested in figuring out how to do the bare minimum while mostly seeking pleasure in sin and doing whatever they want. Motives must be questioned of anyone that doesn't want to follow Jesus's teachings or are seeking to do the bare minimum. It's really one or the other. Either we follow Jesus or we don't. God bless.
I'm sure that it's in your heart to build up on what God has done for you both. Every blessing as you step out in God's Strength & Wisdom, stepping out in each new day holding onto Him & in faith being the Mother & confidant you need to be for her & that she seeks from you.
Go to the blank search box and type in" marriage supper". Read all the scriptures.
With someone who murders another, as heinous a sin that it is, he still has a chance to repent, be forgiven, be born again & gain eternal life. A person who commits suicide (murders himself) obviously has no chance at all to receive God's forgiveness & so we conclude that he is an unforgiven sinner under God's judgement. But of course, that is God's (not our) final judgement of that person because of the situation he's in, as no person who suicides does it without going through some deep waters in his life.