Hello Benito, Likely there have been "evil brutes" for a long time already. I am re-posting a point of a confession of faith from 1632 from Christians that suffered torture and death at the hands of the Roman Church, my children are in part blood decedents of the same.
14. Of Revenge
"As regards revenge, that is to oppose an enemy with the sword, we believe and confess that tha Lord Christ has forbidden and set aside to His disciples and followers all revenge and retaliation, and commanded them to render to no one evil for evil, or cursing for cursing, but to put the sword into the sheath, or, as the prophets have predicted, to beat the swords into ploughshares. Matthew 5:39 ; Matthew 5:44 ; Romans 12:14 ; 1 Peter 3:9 ; Isaiah 2:4 ; Micah 4:3.
From this we understand that therefore, and according to His example, we must not inflict pain, harm, or sorrow upon anyone, but seek the highest welfare and salvation of all men, and even if necessity requires it, flee for the Lord's sake from one city or country into another, and suffer the spoiling of our goods; that we must not harm anyone, and when smitten, rather turn the other cheek also, than to revenge or retaliate.
And moreover, that we must pray for our enemies, feed and refresh them whenever they are hungry or thirsty, and convince them by well doing, and overcome all ignorance. Romans 12:19-20
Finally, that we must do good and commend ourselves to every man's conscience; and, according to the law of Christ, do unto others that which we would have others do into us". Matthew 7:12
It would not be very loving to stand back and allow some evil brute to savage your precious ones:
If thou forbear to deliver them that are drawn unto death, and those that are ready to be slain;
If thou sayest, Behold, we knew it not; doth not he that pondereth the heart consider it? and he that keepeth thy soul, doth not he know it? and shall not he render to every man according to his works? ( Proverbs 24:11-12)
Lilith, according to the LGBTQ crowd, was the third person in the garden of Eden who became Eve's wife when Eve refused Adam. This is complete hogwash, bologna cut off for suckers. When Adam and Eve were created and sent to till the garden of Eden, there was no other beings created and the only world they knew was Eden.
So, if Adam and Eve only had two sons then how did we get here? That answer is simple. Adam and Eve had other son's and daughter's after Cain slew Abel...jealousy. So the answer had to have been more children were born to Adam and Eve. For whatever reason, God chose not to share that with us.
(The world was started, had to have been started, through incest)
This is true Pastor! As Christians, we should not try to hurt by words or the law or any kind of violence in self defense, because He loved us first. Stay true. "Humility is Thou Secret Vale".
To Joanne Jones. People will tell you its ok to kill in certain situations but, you quoted what God said about it. Thou shalt not kill, no exceptions there. Matthew 5:39, Romans 12:17, Romans 12:21. These scriptures speak against self-defense and so do these; 1 Thessalonians 5:15, (See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men.) to be a Christian is to be Christ like hear is what Jesus did, ( 1 Peter 2:23 Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously:
1 Peter 3:9
Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing. I will take Gods Word over mans anytime, God bless and always listen to your heart because Jesus will never lead you wrong.
Thank you for that very kind statement Annetta. You put a smile on my face. It gives me great pleasure to help another out on anything to do with the Word if I may. As only having the abilities the Lord has given me.
All Glory to Jesus Christ our Lord and our Holy Father in Heaven!
I totally agree with you on the word "debt" or "debtors" used in the our Fathers prayer. Making you kind of think it's of monetary matters. As when I pray to our Fathers I state "Forgive us of all our sins, trespasses, and iniquities". As my heart, and the Holy Spirit, have lead me to say this instead of just "debts" as is written.
The thing is that the KJV Bible from 1611 originally had the words "debt" and "debtors" in the prayer. Link The Greek word is "opeheilema" with the Strongs definition of "something owed that is (figuratively) a due .; morally a fault".
Then right after the prayer in Matthew 6:14-15 it states about forgiving others their "trespasses". The word for "trespasses" is another Greek word "paraptoma" with the Strongs definition "a side slip (lapse or deviation) that is (unintentional) error or (wilful) transgression". Also to be known as a sin or misdeed. The other Greek word can also be taken as sin or offense.
I agree with you about how using the word "debt" in the prayer doesn't really feel right. Although that was the original word used from the year 1611 in the KJV Bible.
Hope that helps clear up that the KJV Bible has not been changed. God Bless.
On Matthew 6:12 - why do you say debt and debtor and no longer trespass and trespasses? "Forgive us of our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us," has meaning and inspiration. It inspires someone (like me) to really think of what it means to keep holding onto bad thoughts or grudges against another while I am asking God to forgive me. How can I ask for forgiveness when I am not giving it? Trespass/trespasses causes me to open my heart and mind and to seek to love others as Christ loves me. Whereas, the words "debts and debtors" inspire me to think of monetary matters. As Jesus tells us "money is the root of all evil," I find myself dismayed and turned off by any Bible which has removed trespass and replaced it with debt. It is especially hurtful to see this happen in a King James Bible. I was holding out hope that with all the false teachings and false Bibles in the world today, the King James Bible would remain true to the word of God.
This type of situation can be annoying & upsetting when your act of kindness gets abused. I assume that you have raised the matter with your neighbours so that they are aware of it & that they still pursue this attitude & action.
You could do as your wife suggests & write-off the extra costs, as the 'Christian thing' to do, but if that will only leave you constantly upset & out-of-pocket, then you might have to consider other options. If these utilities have a direct connection to your mobile home, they would have their own meters; then you can specify to them that your charges of rent only apply to the use of the home only - they have to meet other costs (you could even lower your rent slightly to allow for that). If their bills don't get paid then the utilities are cut off. Or if you feel more generous, keep your rental cost the same & offer to pay for half of their utility bills.
If however, they get their utilities via your meters, it becomes more difficult & expensive. You might have to consult your utility suppliers to have a sub-meters installed that will record water/electricity usage to the mobile home. And then apply the same arrangement for the tenant to pay those bills.
Since there is probably no rental contract involved here, you can advise them that the monthly rental cost will fluctuate depending on what you determine their usage will be according to the bills you receive. This however, would not be the best option & a lot of disputes will come up as to what they have or have not used. Or else, just raise the rent across the board to be able to meet at least some of the extra costs.
But from a Christian view point, I wouldn't allow this issue to keep on going in the way it is. It needs to be dealt with & the people need to know that they do wrong by over-using your resources. Or else, just turn a blind eye & allow God to meet your extra expenses & to deal with them accordingly. In any case, a proper contract needs to be in place.
That is one of the oldest questions asked concerning eternity, aside from the pre-existence of God. Both non-Christians & those claiming Christian faith have wondered about "good people consigned to Hell" & humanly speaking, we really can't believe that a Holy, Righteous God would do such a thing. But the Scriptures are clear.
What we term a 'good person' is based on our understanding of 'goodness', i.e. one well behaved, conforms to society's norms & requirements, has a careful, considered disposition, rendering help to others & not given to 'major sins'. And yet, will all that 'goodness', God still manages to find fault with him. Is God unfair or judging us too harshly? From our viewpoint, we might think so, but from God's viewpoint (& from the Word), He assesses us correctly.
If "all have sinned & come short of the glory of God (or, God's standards)" ( Romans 3:23), God takes into account that evidence of sin, however minute in substance, as that which infects & affects the whole ("a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump" 1 Corinthians 5:6). Just as the addition of a little leaven (yeast) causes fermentation & expansion of dough that affects the whole bread, so to does the smallest of sins (white lies, pride, bitterness, false accusation, anger, etc.) spoils the whole person making him a sinner: he's not a person who slips up in some sin but still essentially good, but a person who because of sin is essentially bad but show traits of goodness at times. But even with all his 'goodness', can he present himself as acceptable to God? Never to a holy God.
Romans 2:11-16 explains why a person never hearing about God or the Gospel through His Son, still remains condemned. In advanced civilizations, the Law alerts a person to his errors & sins. Amongst hidden tribes, their tribal Law applies, & where that law doesn't deal with sin, man is naturally alerted in his heart to wrong doing, their conscience bearing them witness. No chance without the Gospel reaching them.
My question is how can a good God allow good people to go to hell? How is a person that grows up in a place where the gospel is not shared be held accountable and go to hell when they pass away?
It is Christmas morning. Miracles happen this day -Jesus our Savior was born on this Heavenly Day. All you do is get on your knees and Pray. Have the Faith it will happen on God's best timing and stay. Reach out to others as you would want them to do to you. The Love of our God for His Creations was seen by me more times then numbered. So am wise in telling you these truths. No matter your situation you never give up and go to the enemy's side. For the Faith you show to your Father in Heaven as you pray for a miracle today--Will come true in His timing for you. For a miracle was born this Christmas Day. And your miracle you ask for will be born today. Stay on your knees...Faith to Him... watch what happens in the end. Merry Christmas to all...with the Light of God Shining Bright...on you today!!!
When I believe I know how God can work and what He will or won't do or what is even realistic and possible based off of my experience and understanding of the world I am actually learning on that understanding. One must discard what their senses, knowledge and experience tells them is possible for that is the knowledge and understanding of man. Instead know that anything is possible for our Father regardless of what we have been taught. He did drop meat from the sky and produced bread on the ground and brought water from rocks for the Israelites while they traveled through the wilderness. Those are what seem to be extremely unrealistic and impossible tasks in our eyes yet for God they were delivered daily as if no problem. If God wanted me could produce a brand new vehicle out of thin air and drop it in your driveway if He chose to do so regardless of what you may understand to possible. Place no limitations on God and what he can or will do and be amazed at the wonders He will reveal to you.
This is the only other verse in the KJV that mentions the word "unseemly". More proof of what I already concluded: "unseemly" means "against its own nature" not "against man-made customs".
Paul was called by God from his mother's womb ( Galatians 1:15), but Paul was apprehended by God for God's exclusive service on the road to Damascus. From that moment onwards, Paul was aware that his life was not his own; he'd been bought with a price, the precious BLOOD of the Lamb.
14. Of Revenge
"As regards revenge, that is to oppose an enemy with the sword, we believe and confess that tha Lord Christ has forbidden and set aside to His disciples and followers all revenge and retaliation, and commanded them to render to no one evil for evil, or cursing for cursing, but to put the sword into the sheath, or, as the prophets have predicted, to beat the swords into ploughshares. Matthew 5:39 ; Matthew 5:44 ; Romans 12:14 ; 1 Peter 3:9 ; Isaiah 2:4 ; Micah 4:3.
From this we understand that therefore, and according to His example, we must not inflict pain, harm, or sorrow upon anyone, but seek the highest welfare and salvation of all men, and even if necessity requires it, flee for the Lord's sake from one city or country into another, and suffer the spoiling of our goods; that we must not harm anyone, and when smitten, rather turn the other cheek also, than to revenge or retaliate.
And moreover, that we must pray for our enemies, feed and refresh them whenever they are hungry or thirsty, and convince them by well doing, and overcome all ignorance. Romans 12:19-20
Finally, that we must do good and commend ourselves to every man's conscience; and, according to the law of Christ, do unto others that which we would have others do into us". Matthew 7:12
If thou forbear to deliver them that are drawn unto death, and those that are ready to be slain;
If thou sayest, Behold, we knew it not; doth not he that pondereth the heart consider it? and he that keepeth thy soul, doth not he know it? and shall not he render to every man according to his works? ( Proverbs 24:11-12)
So, if Adam and Eve only had two sons then how did we get here? That answer is simple. Adam and Eve had other son's and daughter's after Cain slew Abel...jealousy. So the answer had to have been more children were born to Adam and Eve. For whatever reason, God chose not to share that with us.
(The world was started, had to have been started, through incest)
Carleton
1 Peter 3:9
Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing. I will take Gods Word over mans anytime, God bless and always listen to your heart because Jesus will never lead you wrong.
The RCC is a cult that was martyring real Christians .
The godhead doctrine had much to to with their corruption .
Things are much worse today as the whore rides the dragon to destruction.
Come out of her !
All Glory to Jesus Christ our Lord and our Holy Father in Heaven!
I totally agree with you on the word "debt" or "debtors" used in the our Fathers prayer. Making you kind of think it's of monetary matters. As when I pray to our Fathers I state "Forgive us of all our sins, trespasses, and iniquities". As my heart, and the Holy Spirit, have lead me to say this instead of just "debts" as is written.
The thing is that the KJV Bible from 1611 originally had the words "debt" and "debtors" in the prayer. Link The Greek word is "opeheilema" with the Strongs definition of "something owed that is (figuratively) a due .; morally a fault".
Then right after the prayer in Matthew 6:14-15 it states about forgiving others their "trespasses". The word for "trespasses" is another Greek word "paraptoma" with the Strongs definition "a side slip (lapse or deviation) that is (unintentional) error or (wilful) transgression". Also to be known as a sin or misdeed. The other Greek word can also be taken as sin or offense.
I agree with you about how using the word "debt" in the prayer doesn't really feel right. Although that was the original word used from the year 1611 in the KJV Bible.
Hope that helps clear up that the KJV Bible has not been changed. God Bless.
On Matthew 6:12 - why do you say debt and debtor and no longer trespass and trespasses? "Forgive us of our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us," has meaning and inspiration. It inspires someone (like me) to really think of what it means to keep holding onto bad thoughts or grudges against another while I am asking God to forgive me. How can I ask for forgiveness when I am not giving it? Trespass/trespasses causes me to open my heart and mind and to seek to love others as Christ loves me. Whereas, the words "debts and debtors" inspire me to think of monetary matters. As Jesus tells us "money is the root of all evil," I find myself dismayed and turned off by any Bible which has removed trespass and replaced it with debt. It is especially hurtful to see this happen in a King James Bible. I was holding out hope that with all the false teachings and false Bibles in the world today, the King James Bible would remain true to the word of God.
You could do as your wife suggests & write-off the extra costs, as the 'Christian thing' to do, but if that will only leave you constantly upset & out-of-pocket, then you might have to consider other options. If these utilities have a direct connection to your mobile home, they would have their own meters; then you can specify to them that your charges of rent only apply to the use of the home only - they have to meet other costs (you could even lower your rent slightly to allow for that). If their bills don't get paid then the utilities are cut off. Or if you feel more generous, keep your rental cost the same & offer to pay for half of their utility bills.
If however, they get their utilities via your meters, it becomes more difficult & expensive. You might have to consult your utility suppliers to have a sub-meters installed that will record water/electricity usage to the mobile home. And then apply the same arrangement for the tenant to pay those bills.
Since there is probably no rental contract involved here, you can advise them that the monthly rental cost will fluctuate depending on what you determine their usage will be according to the bills you receive. This however, would not be the best option & a lot of disputes will come up as to what they have or have not used. Or else, just raise the rent across the board to be able to meet at least some of the extra costs.
But from a Christian view point, I wouldn't allow this issue to keep on going in the way it is. It needs to be dealt with & the people need to know that they do wrong by over-using your resources. Or else, just turn a blind eye & allow God to meet your extra expenses & to deal with them accordingly. In any case, a proper contract needs to be in place.
What we term a 'good person' is based on our understanding of 'goodness', i.e. one well behaved, conforms to society's norms & requirements, has a careful, considered disposition, rendering help to others & not given to 'major sins'. And yet, will all that 'goodness', God still manages to find fault with him. Is God unfair or judging us too harshly? From our viewpoint, we might think so, but from God's viewpoint (& from the Word), He assesses us correctly.
If "all have sinned & come short of the glory of God (or, God's standards)" ( Romans 3:23), God takes into account that evidence of sin, however minute in substance, as that which infects & affects the whole ("a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump" 1 Corinthians 5:6). Just as the addition of a little leaven (yeast) causes fermentation & expansion of dough that affects the whole bread, so to does the smallest of sins (white lies, pride, bitterness, false accusation, anger, etc.) spoils the whole person making him a sinner: he's not a person who slips up in some sin but still essentially good, but a person who because of sin is essentially bad but show traits of goodness at times. But even with all his 'goodness', can he present himself as acceptable to God? Never to a holy God.
Romans 2:11-16 explains why a person never hearing about God or the Gospel through His Son, still remains condemned. In advanced civilizations, the Law alerts a person to his errors & sins. Amongst hidden tribes, their tribal Law applies, & where that law doesn't deal with sin, man is naturally alerted in his heart to wrong doing, their conscience bearing them witness. No chance without the Gospel reaching them.