Discuss Daniel 9

  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 2 days ago
    Oseas

    Hey brother just one last thing to consider.

    Daniel 9:24-27, in this prophecy, there are seventy weeks or 490 years determined unto Daniel's people and the holy city to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

    Have these 6 things been fulfilled in Jesus the Messiah, and the judgment of it carried out in 70 AD? If so, all of this prophecy has been fulfilled in the past.

    1 To finish the transgression. To break or violate, as a law, civil or moral; the act of transgressing. Psalms 32:1 Isaiah 53:5-11 Romans 4:14-15 Galatians 3:18-19 Hebrews 9:14-15.

    2 To make an end to sins. Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. Matthew 1:21 Hebrews 10:8-11 John 1:29 1 Corinthians 15:3 1 John 3:5 Psalm 32:1 Romans 3:21-26 Romans 8:3.

    3 To make reconciliation for iniquity. Reconciliation is an element of salvation that refers to the results of the atonement. Colossians 1:20-22 Isaiah 53:6 Isaiah 53:11 Romans 5:11 Ephesians 2:16 Titus 2:14 2 Corinthians 5:18-19.

    4 To bring in everlasting righteousness. In conformity to the demands of the covenant and according to God's will. Isaiah 61:10-11 Romans 3:21-26 Romans 5:17-21 2 Corinthians 5:21 1 Peter 2:24.

    5 To seal up the vision and prophecy. The greatest prediction, which runs like a golden thread through the whole contents of the Old Testament, is that regarding the coming and work of the Messiah, Jesus. Daniel 9:23 Matthew 11:11-15 Mark 1:14-15 John 5:36-40 John 6:27 Acts 3:18.

    6 To anoint the most holy. The high priest went into the holy of holies once a year with the blood of a sacrificed bull. Jesus our high priest with His own blood anointed the most holy not made with hands once and for all, forever. Hebrews 9:6-14.

    Jesus said it in John 19:28-30.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Oseas - In Reply - 3 days ago
    Ronald Whitemore

    The main happenings before the beginning of the last week- Daniel 9:27.What will happen from now on.The last week is not too far to start.Here are the happenings that will preceed the last week as was prophesied by Daniel:

    - Death of the current Pope and election of the next and last Pope,ruler and guide of the religious MONSTER of 7 heads,and 10 horns,upon his HORNS ten crowns,and upon his 7 heads the name of blasphemy-Vicarius Filli Dei?

    -The Beast of the earth with two horns LIKE A LAMB rises up in Israel;(the clay- Isaiah 64:8-the dry land);

    -Election of a new Pope-his pseudo-name or nickname may be Paulus VII??(Re.17:10);

    -Then the Beast of the earth LIKE A LAMB will manifest himself as God in Israel;in fact a false messiah,an esoteric,and kabbalistic,and spiritist false messiah;Then there will be two powerful and satanic Beasts in the Earth;

    -The esoteric and kabblistic,and spiritist Beast of the earth will make great signs and wonders of lie,even makes fire come down to the earth before men;Rev.13:13-15

    -The ELECTED LAST Pope(Paulus VII??)will meet the Beast like lamb;

    -Both will develop an union between the Roman Catholic Church and Judaism,iron with clay- Daniel 2:41-43-but they shall not cleave one to another,even as iron is not mixed with clay;

    -A religious and universal satanic Empire will be build by both religious leaders;Rev.11:1-2;

    -The esoteric and kabbalistic, and spiritist Beast of the earth-the false messiah of the Jews-AN IMPOSTOR,will make a deal with the Beast of sea-the Papacy-,the Beast of earth, the false messaiah, will give to the Beast of sea his Power, and his Throne,and great Authority.Then the Antichrist's Empire is conceived by both satanic Beasts;

    All events or happenings listed above,some will happen before starting the last week- Daniel 9:27-,for example,death of Pope Francis,others during the week as soon it starts, and others in the middle of the week and until the end or until the consumation.

    Get ready
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 3 days ago
    Hey Oseas,

    My understanding is Jesus was baptized and anointed in the fall of the year__, he was 40 days and nights in the wilderness. Jesus then chose His 12 disciples. shortly after the wedding where Jesus turned the water to wine, He went to Passover John 2:23, this would be 6 months after He was anointed by the Holy Ghost.

    There are 3 more Passovers and Jesus was crucified on the last one, John 5:1, 1.5 years John 6:4 2.5 years, and John 13:1 the Passover He was crucified 3.5 years from when He was anointed as the Messiah.

    My understanding of Matthew 24 was also for the disciples for the upcoming destruction of Jerusalem not just for us today, if we compare Matthew 24:15 and Mark 13:14 have when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet. But in Luke 21:20, He writes when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

    The abomination of desolation is something done by someone as King Antiochus IV Epiphanes did in 168 BC. It happened before the temple was destroyed in 70 AD. My understanding is parts of Jesus's Olivet discourse were for them and parts are for us.

    What is in Daniel 9:27 Jesus caused the sacrifice and oblation to cease when He died and the vail of the Temple rent from top to bottom. As Jesus told the woman at the well the hour has come ye shall not worship the Father in the mountain or Jerusalem, John 4:21

    The wording in Daniel 9:27 is for the overspreading of abominations points to the abominations the leaders of Jerusalem will have done, Matthew 23:32-38 Jesus told them "Behold, your house is left unto you desolate" The he, is Jesus who will make it desolate and, in their generation, it was made desolate by the people/Roman army, of the prince/Titus same as God used Babylon in 586 BC.

    I hope this makes sense so that you can study for your understanding even if you disagree, if you have questions let me know.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Oseas - In Reply - 4 days ago
    Hello Rainwalker - and Ronald Whittemore

    Greetings in Christ JESUS

    I could not see in your reply what is your interpretation on Dan.9:27, you just limited yourself to informing other interpretations are erroneous, your answer did not bring your interpretation.I did not understand what you meant: 'one issue with Dan 9:27 is that it's all about the Messiah'.

    But what does Daniel 9:27 reveal?

    27 - And HE shall confirm the covenant with many for one week(of years):and in the MIDST of the week(after 42 months)HE shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease,and for the overspreading of abominations HE shall make it desolate, even until the consummation,and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. Just curious.Who is HE in your understanding? (Remember:In Matthew 24:15 our Lord JESUS LITERALLY referred to this desolation spoken of by Daniel as a signal of His coming imediately after the period of sorrows- Matthew 24:3-8).

    Then,according to the above,'HE shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease',but verse 26 says:And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off (crucified),but NOT for Himself: and the people (WHAT PEOPLE?)of the PRINCE (WHAT PRINCE?)that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary(for me Ezekiel 21:25 reveals who is this profane Prince); and the end thereof shall be with a flood,and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

    You said 'the Ministry of JESUS' was 3,5 years, but the current and universal record of the period of JESUS's Ministry is only 3 years, not 3,5 years. What is your source? Just curious,it's unknown to me.

    Sorry, our posts are read by many brothers and sisters, so my concern is to FIND the true interpretation of Scriptures in the current perilous times, and also overspreading of apostasies, beyond manifestation of the son of perdition very soon( John 5:43-47 combined with 2Thessalonians 2:1-4 and Revelation 13:11).

    May our Lord GOD bless us,and give us His pretection

    Amen
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 4 days ago
    Hey Oseas,

    Sorry for the delay, I did not reply concerning the two beasts in Revelation 13 my reply was about the last week of Daniel 9:27 being put at the end times, my understanding is different. As far as the sea means waters and could be the Gentile nations you may be correct, we know it won't be Israel.

    If we look at Revelation 11:7 and Revelation 17:8 this beast ascendeth out of the bottomless pit, so the word sea in Revelation 13 may mean the abyss, just a thought.

    Thanks, and God bless,

    RLW
  • Oseas - In Reply - 4 days ago
    Ronald Whittemore & Rainwalker

    The message below is for your meditation, as a clue, to decipher an enigma / conundrum.

    As you know, Revelation 13 describes two terrible different Beasts:

    Beast of sea(verse 1),

    Beast of the earth(verse 11)

    Which of the two Beasts are you referring to?

    According to the Revelation, sea means waters, waters mean peoples, and nations, and multitues of all tongues- Revelation 17:15-i.e. Gentile nations, so the Beast of sea is a Gentile Beast.

    The Beast of earth has two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a DRAGON (a false lamb), by allegory, earth here is Israel, the clay( Isaiah 64:8) a dry land, like an isle in the sea, a portion of earth surrounded by waters (gentile peoples) on all sides.

    According to the Daniel 9:27, he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week. Revelation 13:2 says the DRAGON shall give to the GENTILE Beast of sea his Power, and his Seat(his throne in Jerusalem), and great Authority. And in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations( Daniel 12:11) he shall make it desolate until the consummation.

    GOD BLESS
  • Oseas - 2 weeks ago
    PUT THIS IN YOUR MIND - THE RED SEA AND THE RED DRAGON

    I believe you know that the Hebrews had to cross the Red Sea,and walk through a desert,walk until they got to the Promised Land after 40 years of pilgrimage.What about GOD's people now or in this current time?

    Now GOD's people will have to go through(I mean win a war)against the Red Dragon,that's exactly it,a Red Dragon yes,this is no coincidence,it was predicted millennia ago.He's a false messiah who will soon manifest,just ahead,with great signs of lying,he will manifest in Israel like a lamb with two horns,he's a Jew,of course, and he'll speak like a Dragon. Revelation 12.3-17 and Revelation 13: 11-18.

    Let's get ready to go through this not easy FINAL journey of GOD's people here until the glorious,marvelous,and day of exceedingly joy - the day 1335.Amen.

    Remembering and understanding that the departure of the Hebrew people from Egypt was not without first having taken place a battle against Pharaoh(by the way,there and now is Satan himself),and when the march began for the departure of GOD's people from Egypt, then the enemy army persecuted the Hebrews,the same will happen now,initially the persecution will be by the man Beast of the sea,it is he who will first persecute the Christian believers- Revelation 13:5 - for 42 months,that is the first half of the last week, week 70th Daniel 9:v.27.This POINT is only and only the half of the way -3,5 years or 42 months,the GOD's people will need to march more 3,5 years,so the murch will last 7 years,it will not be easy this journey of course.

    Again:Let's get ready to go through this not easy FINAL journey of GOD's people here until the glorious,marvelous,and day of exceendigly joy-the day 1335. Amen.

    JESUS in His prayer to the Father,said: John 17:15 - I pray not that thou take them out of the world, but that thou keep them from the evil.

    Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. Matthew 5:5

    Get ready, yeah, get ready
  • Richard H Priday - 2 weeks ago
    Revelation Seal One:

    Daniel 8:23-25 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.

    24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.

    25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.

    To understand the first seal of Revelation which is parallel to the " Daniel 9:27" covenant; we have to gain wisdom and understanding on what exactly the white horse of Revelation 6:1-2 represents. We can see a similar concept here to the Mahdi of Islam; who is said to come this exact way on a white horse and makes a seven year pact (from what I can tell is in a Hadith rather than specifically mentioned in the Koran but I don't want to focus on that here). My point is the idea of peace through force or SUBMISSION. The point in verse 24 of Daniel 8 is also translated as causing "astonishing devestation". This would likely be the scenario where he takes over the 3 nations of the 10 mentioned in Daniel 7:8. That would possibly be related to a limited nuclear conflict but could of course be a type of "blitzkrieg" that is a sudden assault rendering enemies helpless. SInce this is a power struggle that could be the emphasis here.

    These passages also show judgment by God; even in false peace. Jeremiah 6:14 and 8:11 bolster what is seen in Thessalonians about false peace ( 1 Thess. 5:3). The world shall believe in "THE LIE" in 2 Thessalonians 2:11 and the Jews will believe in another who comes in his own name as John 5:43 shows with Jesus warning His own people with what they indeed WILL do in the future. God will use men and Satan to do His will.
  • Oseas - In Reply - 3 weeks ago
    Rainwalker

    The battle of Michael is against three unclean spirits like frogs(why frogs),that FIRST manifest by the MOUTH of the dragon,the MAN Beast like a lamb(a false lamb,a false Jewish messiah- Revelation 13:11 combined with John 5:43-47,actually the MAN of sin,son of perdition)having two horns(i.e. representing two ancient kingdoms),and this false messiah,in fact an esoteric,and kabbalistic, and spiritist messiah, knowledgeable in Torah,a FALSE prophet,and he shall oppose and exalt himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God will be enthroned in the temple of God-the Holy City, showing himself that he is God-2Thesslonians 2:3-4 and 9-12.

    The battle also is against the unclean spirit of the Beast of sea having 7 heads,10 horns,and upon his 7 heads a NAME of blaspheme.The false messiah will give to the Beast of sea his Power,and his Throne,and great Authority, hen the false messiah, the dragon-Re.13:11-shall take and link the whole structure around the world(Europe,Asia,Africa,Oceania(Australia),North America, Central America and South America) of the Roman Catholic Church to his body, i.e. the 7 heads of the Beast of sea, a Gentilic Beast,which shall sit on the throne of false messiah in Jerusalem in the FIRST half of the last week,week 70th Daniel 9:24-27.So, as JESUS prophesied, Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled- Luke 21:24.

    The false messiah from the tribe of Dan- Genesis 49:17-represents the 10 horns of the dragon's body.The dragon's TAIL-Re.12:4-are all false preachers of the Word of GOD- Isaiah 9:15-16.

    14For they are the spirits of devils,working miracles,which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world,to gather them to the battle of this great Day of GOD Almighty,the sevenh and last Day,or seventh and last millennium.

    15Behold,I come as a thief.Blessed is he that watches,and keeps his garments,lest he walk naked,and they see his shame
  • Oseas - 1 month ago
    Our Lord JESUS emphatically said:All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth-Mat.28:18.

    The world of Devil as a whole,with all kind of structures they all have, yeah,all the nations and peculiar system of life of each one,are sufferring and will suffer catastrofic and insufferable punishments in this seventh and last millennium,or seventh and last Day,the LORD's Day.Get ready.

    See,the precedent period of Tribulation,period of sorrows listed by JESUS-Mat.24:3-8-is the first signal of the beginning of the ETERNAL chastisement ahead.In fact,the ETERNAL punishment of all nations it had a written deadline to start,understand?And it has already really started.

    Now,within this environment of punishments and pains and entire collapse of the Devil's world,the false messiah of the Jews will manifest himself as JESUS prophesied,saying to the Jews an IMPOSTOR they will receive as their messiah- John 5:43-47, combined with 2 Thes.2:3-12,and Re.13 :11.

    Thus, in the midst of severe chastisement and great suffering in all nations due the wrath of the Lamb,-Re.6:14-17, we will soon see two Beasts reigning on Earth:

    1-the old Gentile Beast of the Sea; and

    2-the Beast of the earth(Israel)who will still manifest himself, from then on will begin the period of the last week(of years), the 70th week Daniel 9:27,and each Beast will reign for 3.5 years-42 months-or 1260 days-and who will first rule the 5th and last satanic kingdom - Daniel 2:41-44- is the old Gentile Beast of the sea-Re.13:1.

    Then Re.11:2 and Re.13:5 will begin LITERALLY to be fulfilled as first period of the last week.The worst of all punishments will happen in the beginning of the 2nd half of the last week,with the establishment of the Abomination of Desolation for 1290 days-Dan.12:v.11.

    12Blessed is he that waiteth,and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.(Oh yes,blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the Ineffable,Wonderful,Indescribable,Unspeakable day,the day 1.335.Hallelujaaah!!!
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 1 month ago
    GiGi,

    Part 3 Trinity discussion,

    Do you believe the Son is a created being?

    What is the meaning of created? Does it mean something that is made out of nothing? I would have to say no, Jesus is the Son of God who was conceived in the womb of Mary, Matthew 1:20 Luke 1:35, I do not think I would say He was created.

    If so, when did He come into existence?

    In God's plan before anything and physically when He was conceived in Mary's womb.

    Do you believe that the Son is only human in nature?

    Jesus is the Son of God fully human but without sin same as the first Adam, Scripture is clear when Jesus was baptized, He was anointed with the Holy Ghost/Spirit without measure, John 3:34. All the works of Jesus were done by the Spirit of God, Matthew 4:16 Matthew 12:28 Acts 10:38.

    Do you believe that Jesus became "the Christ" during His lifetime (Adoptionism)?

    I had never heard of Adoptionism until now, I had to look it up, it's false. Christ and Messiah are the same; Jesus was anointed by the Spirit of God after He was baptized by John, He then was made the Messiah/Christ fulfilling the prophecy in Daniel 9:25. Jesus is the Son of God conceived in the womb of Mary by the Holy Ghost/Spirit.

    Do you believe Jesus ever aquired a divine nature in His earthly life?

    If you mean a divine nature is to have all the attributes that make God who He is I would have to say no. If so, Jesus could not sin or be tempted, Matthew 4:1 Hebrews 4:15. If so, Jesus living a perfect life without sin is meaningless. Jesus could not have died; Jesus was given the power of the Holy Spirit when He was anointed the Messiah. After He rose from the dead God gave Jesus all power in heaven and on earth, Matthew 28:18. God raised and placed Jesus on His right side, Ephesians 1:21-23. Jesus did not return to where He was before, God the Father placed everything under Jesus God's only begotten Son's feet and Jesus will reign until the last enemy is destroyed, 1 Corinthians 15:24-28.

    See part 4.
  • Oseas - 2 months ago
    ************THE LAST DECADE - 2020-2030 - COUNTDOWN************

    february 12-2024 is the 1137th day of the LAST DECADE of the Devil's world.

    the begining of the last week - daniel 9:27 - is within of this current last decade.

    but first will be ELECTED the LAST Pope - THE NEXT -

    Be careful and get ready

    be focused for the last week of years of the Devil's world, and LITERAL fulfillment of Revelation 11:15-18
  • Oseas - 2 months ago
    The last decade - countdown

    february 11-2024 is the 1136th day of the last decade of the devil's world.

    the begining of the last week - daniel 9:27 - is within of this current last decade.

    be careful and get ready
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 3 months ago
    Hey S Spencer,

    Thank you for your reply, yes, Genesis 3:15 tells us He will come by the seed of a woman, and that is exactly what we see happen in Mary. My understanding of John 1:1-5 is John's prolog at the start of his gospel like Genesis 1:1 is a prolog to the rest of Genesis 1. John starts with, In the beginning.

    I see this beginning as the coming of the Messiah/Christ the beginning of Jesus's ministry because in John 1:6, John goes to John the Baptist as the witness of the one who was to come, the Light that darkness did not comprehend. This is the start of Jesus's ministry when Jesus was anointed with the Holy Ghost/Spirit and God made Him the Messiah/Christ, Acts 2:36.

    Jesus was sent for the lost sheep of Israel, Matthew 15:24, His role or ministry was to fulfill the law and the prophets in confirming the new covenant by His death and resurrection from the dead to pay the price for our sins. Daniel 9:27 is also about the 3.5 years of Jesus ministry but that is another topic. Jesus was the Messiah that was prophesied to come in Daniel. As I have discussed with Chris my understanding is Jesus was the beginning of the plan of God and like John 1:10 it is through Him not by Him.

    Jesus, God' Son is first in God's plan of creation, and everything was created in and through Him and Jesus was begotten in the fullness of time. Ephesians 1:10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: Colossians 1:20. I know you may also not agree with that but that is how I understand, it is God the Father who is the creator.

    The light was the word of God that dwelt in Jesus, the glory of the Father that dwelt in Jesus, 2 Corinthians 4:6.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Richard H Priday - 3 months ago
    "Emotions of God" as related to Moses (cont).

    The act of intercession; therefore is something crucial to communication throughout scripture that indeed gives us some insight of Hebrews 7:25 (He ever lives to intercede for us). Daniel also repeated this theme in Daniel 9:8-10. God's promise here was the prophetic insight given in Jeremiah 29:10. God stated this would happen; so it appears to be a done deal. There was no promise how many would do this; as is evident from the small group that initially rebuilt the wall; and the disobedience of many was seen with marriages to foreign wives. No doubt worldliness had affected the hearts of those who should have remembered the prosperity God gave them in Babylon and His promises to return after that time. It is a wonder that confession of the sins of church congregations isn't given much attention as compared to particulary egregious ones of individuals as it still affects the overall witness as we see from exhortations written for the churches in Revelation 2 and 3; for example.

    Look at God's faithfulness to Israel as stated in Jeremiah 31:36 where the courses of nature would have to change with the sun and moon for God to abandon His covenant promises. In fact the only covenant changed is that related to the method of worship with the law and sacrifices which was of course replaced by the perfect sacrifice under Christ which abolished therefore the old ordinances. (see Hebrews 9-10). The object of worship was therefore Christ; God had stated in Isaiah 1:11; see also Psalm 69:31.

    In understanding the New Covenant we should perceive that it is still the same God with the same characteristics today that existed in the Old Testament from eternity. We would on the surface expect that to be a "no brainer"; but how often do we see the fear of God demonstrated as in Acts 5:1-11 with Ananias and Sapphira? Our commitments to God should not be of fools ( Ecclesiastes 5:4). See Matthew 5:33-35 for ungodly vows.
  • Richard H Priday - 3 months ago
    A look at the Pre Trib rapture and the madness to come

    Revelation 5:12 describes those in heaven praising God but we also see evidence that ALL those on earth will also do the same; even those who are under the earth (possibly the dead souls in hades). I have said before that if the rapture is hidden the RESURRECTION of the dead saints from graves all over the world surely WON'T be able to remain hidden.

    There are several themes in scripture that this reminds us of. First the state of all the angels praising God as seen in Job 38:7.

    Lucifer fell AFTER this event; how quickly it is unknown but it may have seemed to be a shock to the 2/3 that remained faithful to their state of holiness to see 1/3 fall away with him ( Revelation 12:4 shows the end result). Of course the fall of man brought sudden issues as well. It didn't take long for the first murder to occur with Adam's firstborn son. And we could see shades of the same thing at the tower of Babel shortly after the flood.

    What man will crave will be brought about; no doubt by Antichrist's delusion of peace at the first seal ( Rev. 6:1-2). This is going to appear to be a great light of hope (see 2 Cor. 11:14). Shades of the peace and security now will come to the climax with the Daniel 9:27 covenant being CONFIRMED or an original one made stronger (likely what is now known as the Abraham accords).

    Whatever illusion of peace that comes will be short lived as the inevitable decay of society will result in the rest of the seal judgments of war; famine and pestilence to kill 1/4 of men (which appears to all occur BEFORE the mark of the Beast).

    Those who end up following Antichrist will also worship the dragon (Satan) as seen in Rev. 13:14-18 who gives power to the Beast. They eventually end up fighting God as we see from Psalm 2 and Revelation 19.

    Many have argued that out of fear men will be somehow tricked or coerced to take the mark. Revelation 13:8 seems to argue against this as WORSHIP occurs.
  • Richard H Priday - 3 months ago
    Looking at things from God's perspective

    If we look at events unfolding today; it is no surprise when we see verses such as 1 Peter 4:17 on God judging the church before the world; and the scripture on many falling away in the last days ( 1 Timothy 4:1 and other passages). The events of Revelation MUST take place; and will come to pass after the "restrainer" is removed ( 2 Thess. 2:7).

    Therefore; there is to be expected increasing efforts from the forces of evil under Satan's dominion to attempt to jump start this process. There are many times in recent decades when an apocalyptic scenario unfolded which the Lord stopped from going any further (such as the area of Babylon under Saddam Hussein in the 1990s with the Gulf War looking like an early fulfillment of the final destruction of Babylon). We could go back centuries to see all the Antichrist candidates since Nero (Napolean; Hitler; Mussolini and many other dictators). Of course the main focus of prophecy is Israel who has miraculously been able to hold that tiny strip of land in the Middle East despite many wars (1948 at it's inception; 1967; 1973 and other skirmishes with Lebanon and the current one on many fronts). I personally believe Psalm 83 is beginning to reach it's fulfillment and may end with the Isaiah 17:1 prophecy on the destruction of Damascus (with many weapons said to be underground there and terrorist cells). I believe after success over the surronding nations Israel will at some point sign the Daniel 9:27 covenant with many to avoid futher regional strife with Turkey; Iran and other enemies who will be consolidated under Russia.

    We are; of course to continue to occupy until He comes (for some reason I can't find the verse I want here); and we are to remain as "salt and light" ( Matt. 5:13-14). God uses us to hold back evil but we need to focus on the Great Commission not bringing down a world system. We live as an example to the world ( 1 Peter 3:2 is a good example).
  • Oseas - 4 months ago
    About 2,000 years ago, in about the last days or about the last week, week 70 Daniel 9:27, JESUS warned: Matthew 24:6

    6 And you will hear of wars and RUMORS of wars: take heed that you be not dismayed: for all these things must come to pass, but the END is not yet.

    The testimony of my Lord JESUS is the Spirit of prophecy:

    In LITERAL fulfillment of JESUS prophecy as above and for this current time, we see:

    War between Russia and Ukraine;

    War between Israel and Gaza;

    Rumour of war between Venezuela and Guyana;

    In fact, neither Biden nor the Americans want any more fights': what would be the US role in the crisis between Venezuela and Guyana? Well, my Lord JESUS is in command of the History from now on, and He will make to happen what needs to continue LITERALLY fulfilling what He preached for the last Day, that is the seventh and last Day or seventh and last millennium.

    Be careful and get ready

    My Lord JESUS also said There will be also war against three unclean spirits like frogs.(Why frogs?) - Revelation 16:13-15:

    13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs (a satanic trinity) come out of the MOUTH of the dragon, and out of the MOUTH of the Beast (Beast of sea- Revelation 13:1-10), and out of the MOUTH of the false prophet(false messiah- John 5:43-47 combined with Revelation 13:11-18, among other biblical references).

    14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great Day(the LORD's Day) of God Almighty-(the seventh and last Day or seventh and last millennium).

    15 Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. BEHOLD, I come as a thief.

    Be careful and get ready

    If the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?1 Cor.14:8

    Do you know the hymn "When The Trumpet Of The Lord Shall Sound"? Hear it.

    GOD BLESS
  • Oseas - 5 months ago
    Mat. 24:29 "... after the tribulation..." points us the beginning of the last week, week 70th Daniel 9:27 and the antichrist commits the abomination of desolation, we will have a 3.5 year countdown to the Post Trib Rapture. It will really be the first half of the last week that will be ruled by the satanic antichrist. The Dragon, who is mentioned in Revelation 13:11, will give to the Beast of sea-a GENTILE Beast- , his Power, and his Throne(in JERUSALEM), and great Authority, as is written in Revelation 13:2. Then will LITERALLY be fulfilled Luke 21:24:"Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled", combined with Revelation 11:2- ...the court which is without the temple, it is given unto the GENTILES: and the HOLY CITY shall they tread under foot forty and two months (i.e. by the first half of the lasts week, it because a GENTILE MAN BEAST will be enthroned in Jerusalem- Revelation 13:2, spiritually called Sodom and Egypt). Terrible. Very very terrible.

    By the way, I remember that our Lord JESUS listed several and terrible events, events that will preced, for some time, the beginning of Daniel's prophetic fulfillment of the great tribulation, it is called a period of sorrows- Matthew 24:3-8. This prophecy of JESUS will take a period of time to be LITERALLY accomplished, of course, the most important thing is to know for sure that this period of pre-tribulation has already begun, it is already RUNNING, and we are living within it. What do you think?

    On the other hand, I also remember the great tribulation is a consequence or the effect of Michael's coming, according prophecy of Daniel 12:1
  • Richard H Priday - 5 months ago
    Scriptural promises and blessings

    Daniel 9:18-20 show how Daniel asked the Lord to remember the state of Jerusalem being in desolation and His promises (as seen in the book of Jeremiah) of reoccupation and return of the Jews after 70 years of exile (see Jeremiah 29:10). The sins of the people in question were something Daniel took on as a burden to himself in his prayers; fasting and supplications.

    In terms of blessings of a general sort there is that of those who find a wife ( Prov. 18:22). There is also the offspring; or fruit of the womb that is specifically stated to be a blessing ( Deut. 7:13; and several passages in Psalms). Deuteronomy lists blessings for those who obey God's statutes and cursings for those who don't in extensive passages in Deuteronomy 28. As we look at God's chosen people in Exodus; clearly the Lord showed favor in physically delivering the Jews from Egypt; but as Romans 9:6 states not everyone benefitted from it. In fact only Joshua and Caleb survived from the first generation; even Moses was unable to enter the land but saw it from afar due to an isolated sin on his part ( Deut. 3:23 and following verses).

    What we can count on in our sanctification and ultimate glorification ( Romans 8:30). All the prophetic scriptures will be fulfilled to the letter. This includes Israel being restored; the earth being renewed; Christ ruling in the Millennium; wars ending throughout the world; extended lifespans; etc.

    The blessings of financial matters is promised for those who are living by faith (we see the example of Abraham in Genesis 13:2 as the first demonstration of this in scripture although technically the text of Job may be older as an example of God's financial blessings (see Job 1:16 and subsequent verses). Satan was well aware of God's provisions and favor and therefore we can be certain that he will attempt to thwart OR substitute God's blessings with his own which end up being dead ends and illusions.

    ( 1 Peter 5:8).
  • Oseas - 5 months ago
    Now, even now, from now on, in this current millennium, the seventh and last millennium, or seventh and last Day, the four horsemen already are free to carry out their respective movements on Earth according to Apocalypse 6:1-8.

    Get ready

    Meanwhile, on the other hand, the souls of them that were slain for the Word of GOD, and for the testimony which they held in the last two millenia, remain under the altar of GOD. This is the picture of GOD's people in this beginning of the last millennium, revealed through the FIFTH seal.

    And they want to know how long doesn't the holy and true Lord Judge and avenge their blood on them that dwell on the earth? Actually, these must rest yet for a little season until their fellowservants also and brethren be killed as they were too.

    Paul Apostle wrote: 2 Thes.1:7-10 -

    7 To you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,

    8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not GOS, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

    9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of His power;

    10 When He shall come to be glorified in His saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

    That said, now, even now, from now on, the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And shall say to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the WRATH of the Lamb: For the great Day of His WRATH is come (the LORD's Day, the seventh and last Day or seventh millennium, simultaneously with the last week, week 70th Daniel 9:27), and who shall be able to stand?

    Get ready
  • Oseas - In Reply - 5 months ago
    Shabbat Keeper" and all

    In fact, concerning the day of Christ's return, even our Lord JESUS said no man know, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. But GOD the Father has given an important and wanderful clue for us to discern not the day, but the moment of this wonderful, ineffable, unspeakable, event of Crist's return, through the prophet Daniel.

    Daniel 12:5-7 and 11-12 say:

    5 I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.

    6And one said to the man clothed in linen,which was upon the waters of the river,How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?

    7And I heard the man clothed in linen,which was upon the waters of the river,when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven,and sware by Him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time,times,and and HALF;and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

    11And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away,and the abomination that maketh desolate set up( Matthew 24:15-25.Take a look),there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.(1260 days of the 2nd half of the last week,week 70th, Daniel 9:27,plus a gap of 30 days).But what does the Word of GOD say and rfeveal unto us?It's in Daniel 12:12:

    12Blessed is he that waiteth,and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.Yeah, day 1335, the wonderful, ineffable, unspeakable day, but it is IMPOSSIBLE to know now when will it be in the calendar, except to GOD the Father who is in control of History, and as said JESUS unto His disciples: "It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in His own Power. Note that there will be also a gap of 45 days after 1290 days, then the wonderful, ineffable, unspeakable day 1335 arrives.Then the current world of Devil finish in LITERAL fulfilment of Re.11:15-18.

    Get ready
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 5 months ago
    I assume you are in England. This is sad; and haunting seeing where a little over 100 years ago England fought at least in part to oppose the Ottomon Empire's last stand for a Caliphate in regard to the Turks. Armenia is threatening a repeat of what happened then. It is ironic with the left seemingly leaning as far as they can it isn't enough as far as Palestinian rights are concerned.

    Looking back I would suppose this is judgment; at least in part to the basically dead churches in England; who used to be a bastion of righteousness a couple hundred years ago with the great reformers and preachers and revivals in Europe that spread to the USA. There is a remnant which you are part of who truly believe. There are some who are reaching out to the youth today; and truly they will have to have a vision of their own to have any real impact on their generation. Antichrist is coming surely; to fill in the power vacuum that has existed since the end of World War two; basically. The governments are losing out to these mobs; as most who carefully worked to formulate one world government will be trampled by the results. The end result; of course is the false peace of the first seal which everyone claims to want followed by the 2nd seal which rather than being organized warfare is going to be mortal hand to hand combat most likely. The other wars come later as Israel becomes the focus of anger.

    I tend to think that Israel will increase its territorial lands through conquering all their neighbors first ( Psalm 83 and at some point Isaiah 17). This will allow them at some point to have a respite where they sign the Daniel 9:27 pact. It is not until they are feeling secure in unwalled villages that Ezekiel 38 indicates the rest of the outer nations will launch a coordinated attack. For now casualties haven't mounted in these demonstrations as any one of them could be catastrophic.

    I'll keep you in prayer and your family.

    Rich P.
  • Richard H Priday - 6 months ago
    Persecution to come

    I am interrupting my current postings for now as I believe that it is prudent to give a watchman's warning as to the rapidly spiraling out of control demonstrations that are breaking out in many cities across America related to this war between Israel and Hamas and no doubt other factions which has just broken the 30 day mark. This has already exceeded the length of most other recent conflicts in that nation and likely will exceed the length of all wars there from 1948 to today; perhaps even all combined together. The demonstrations here and worldwide are targeting Jews but you can be certain that the Christians are next.

    Our choice now seems to be continuing with our current political party (who apparently despite supporting the Palestinians are still hated by the demonstrators); or going back to the former President who no doubt will have to have martial law and brutal crackdowns to get anything under control.

    We need to seize every moment to proclaim the Gospel; and wisely prepare for what is to come. Our Lord could be returning any time now; but I don't see that happening until Israel has secured its borders; and eventually comes to some sort of more peaceful existance before the Ezekiel 38 war can commence. That is when I expect the Daniel 9:27 treaty when all the surrounding areas such as Jordan and perhaps Syria are dealt with in the Isaiah 17 prophecy. Whatever that timing is; our country has been invaded by millions and no doubt we have terrible days coming; perhaps as bad as the Civil War. Once we see tens of thousands demonstrating like this; and Jewish students having to hide in libraries we know persecution is near.

    Our time of armchair spectator sport Christianity is rapidly waning. On one hand this should help to destroy the prosperity gospel and many false ministries. On the other I pray we all trust in the Spirit to give us words in that hour of trial which no doubt many will face both here and abroad.
  • Oseas - 6 months ago
    What was the biblical significance of the construction and FALL of the TWO TOWERS of the World Trade Center? By allegory, the material things are figures of spiritual things. For example, Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answers to Jerusalem which now is, which genders to bondage, and is in bondage with her children. By the way, GOD is in control of history, nothing random happens.

    In the yar 2001, The United States was the single largest economy on the planet, followed by the European Union- Both economic Powers were represented on the Twin Towers,but the 7 towers were built symbolizing the 7 regions of the Earth-Europe, Asia, Africa, Oceania(Australia), North America, Central America, and South America, but two Towers were the main ones, the Twin Towers, the others were secondary, they had less meaning except a representation of the 7 regions of the Earth.WTC.

    Humanity had just entered a new millennium,from the sixth to the seventh(check it in purebibleforum about the exact difference of 240 years-in-the-jewish-calendar), so, according Scriptures at the turn of a new Day( 2Peter 3:v.8), therefore, the seventh and last Day or seventh and last millennium.

    The fall of the two towers of the World Trade Center signified that both Economies-USA and UE(European Union)- would fall in ruin day after day, in the days to come, and upon the earth distress of nations(of the whole earth),with perplexity;Men's hearts failing them for fear,and for looking after the things which are coming on the earth.And this generation shall not pass away,till all be fulfilled.

    Again:The material things are figures of spiritual things.After the fall of the WTC in the year 2001,there was a sucession of terrible significative events until the current time,and the worst is in the way,the worst will happen from now on,that is the beginning of the last week,week 70th Daniel 9:27; the last 7 years of the World of Devil is arriving.

    And Revelation 11:15-18 will LITERALLY be fulfilled

    Get ready
  • Oseas - 6 months ago
    The Papacy and the RCC-which rides upon the MAN Beast of sea- Revelation 13:1-,the Pope,a Gentile Beast,actually a religious and satanic MONSTER having 7 heads and 10 horns,and upon his horns 10 crowns,and upon his heads a NAME of blasphemy,this religious MONSTER will do a partnership with the MAN Beast of the earth- Revelation 13:11-,who has two horns like a lamb(a false lamb,a false messiah- John 5:43-47-AN IMPOSTOR),who will manifest in days to come,probably in this year or in the next,and shall speak as a dragon- Revelation 13:11

    How will be this partnership between the MAN Beast of the sea(sea are peoples,and nations,and multitudes of all tongues- Revelation 17:15),and the MAN Beast of the earth that is like a lamb,a false lamb,a false messiah,AN IMPOSTOR- John 5:43-,yeah, how will be this partnership?

    Revelation 13:2 gives us the answer for this question, that is:

    To the MAN Beast of sea which is like unto a leopard,and his feet as the feet of a bear,and his mouth as the mouth of a lion(actually it refers the roots of this satanic Gentile Beast- Daniel 7:4-6, yeah, to him the false messiah-the dragon-Rev.13:11-,will give his Power, and his Seat(in Jerusalem, where is the Throne of Satan),and great Authority-Rev.13:2,and Power will be given unto the MAN Beast of sea-to the last of the Popes or Papacy,for forty and two months- Revelation 13:5.By the way,this period of 42 months ruled by the last Pope sat in the Throne of the false messiah in Jerusalem is the FIRST HALF of the last week-week 70th, Daniel 9:27,so Catholicism(iron)and the esoteric and kabbalistic Judaism(the clay)both will be together to establish an Universal and satanic religious kingdom,and then will LITERALLY be fulfilled what my Lord JESUS prophesied: "...and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles(with the Pope enthroned in Jerusalem by the false messiah),until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled-that is the fullness of the Gentiles"- Luke 21:24 combined with Revelation 11:2

    Get ready
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 6 months ago
    Well; whenever you do get to see my letter here; I just am expressing my thanks again for your friendship; and your deep insights and wisdom. Given the circumstances I have to think carefully about the topics which are expressed here; I certainly see a need for prophetic scriptures; especially in light of my posting the other day on Psalm 83 and Ezekiel 38.

    I have gotten some negative commentary here on the concept of false peace; but as always I am quoting scripture. Peace is to be taken from the earth in the 2nd seal; that could be from the false peace of the first seal; but also it would seem when these conflagrations end there has to be a time for unwalled villages in Israel; and economic worldwide development for things to get to the point of the Daniel 9:27 covenant. With everyione on high alert with the current situation it is likely different than the rapture time frame when it comes at a time we do not expect; with buying; selling; marriage; etc. The Ezekiel 38 war is for a spoil; which certainly could imply the rich oil; gas and other resources there now which the current war has no plans to conquer; and again in that war the nations themselves and their armies fight; rather than proxy wars such as we see at present. The Antichrist has a systematic 10 nation or world region rulership; therefore sovereign power is involved with worldwide conquest.

    It is possible the second seal is more like we are seeing now but on a worldwide scale; such as what may be planned at present but since we are still in the church age it no doubt will be muted somewhat. By the trumpet judgments of course we see the armies being mustered; the Euphrates dried up (which has happened somewhat but not finalized until the specific demons are relaased). It ends in Armageddon but just before that the Jews finally recognize their Messiah as Zechariah indicates.

    Yes being right with God and trusting Him to give Him glory in our death is a priority. Will keep you in prayer.
  • Kush on Proverbs 6:16 - 7 months ago
    Note that 6:34-35 is referring to "a man" which would be too presumptions to indicate that it is referring to a jealous husband of a harlot!?, wherein many commentaries seem to suggest. For, why would such a jealous (good) husband be so enraged over a harlot, supposedly his wife!?. Nay. However, in view of the subject mater proceeding these two verses and, as it were comparing scripture with scripture, it seems much more likely that 6:34-35 is pointing to "a man" that (evil) prince that shall come in Daniel 9:26-27.
  • Richard H Priday - 7 months ago
    In yesterday's posts; I listed categories of "left vs right" and a lawless mindset as characterizing two things which we now face as we race toward the Lord's return and the Tribulation. Since the "lawless" one is setting the stage for arrival; we can see how either political side has similar agendas leading to an endgame. ( 2 Thess. 2:8-12).

    Throughout history; we see two approaches toward the church by either the left leaning leadership (such as under Communist China today) or the right leaning totalitarian dictatorship (Hitler). We see infiltration of the church by the state to constrain and monitor what is taught; or we see the leader himself taken up with a Messianic type adoration who is to be worshipped more or less as a savior. The other option is widespread persecution; looting and burning of houses of worship and executions of believers. Either extreme politically brings about lawlessness eventually; from the revolutions and overthrow of the establishment that is encouraged from the outset; to mock trials which never adhere to even the written codes for justice; to vast excesses with leadership who live in luxury while the rest of society struggles to survive. When Antichrist arrives he will claim to be God to some extent; but be "self made" and deny the father and the son ( 1 John 2:22-23).

    When the Daniel 9:27 covenant is made; clearly we see other related verses describing a "man of intrigue" ( Dan. 11:21) who divides the land for gain ( Daniel 11:39) understanding "dark sentences" ( Dan. 8:23); i.e. occult mindset. Money and power broker status has always been the driving force for those in the elite to control the world and enrich themselves. It is clear that we are near an agreement or confirming that covenant with many which will allow the Temple to function and give Israel what seems like a peace arrangement with surrounding nations. At the appointed time it will happen; but also end seven years later

    ( Daniel 7:26).

    Agape. RIch P
  • Richard H Priday - 7 months ago
    The Rapture (part 3) REASONS FOR THE RAPTURE

    I have in other posts described why the Rapture is going to occur. It fulfills scriptures such as Malachi 3:16 in the book of remembrance of those who OFTEN talk about the Lord and it is to reward those who patiently wait for His coming ( James 1:12 and other supporting text). My commentary also discussed how it is for the reunion of all the saints; past and present at the Lord's feet; and for us to be presented in the church as "kings and priests" who will rule and reign with Him ( Rev. 5:10). We are the armies of heaven who will eventually return with Christ in Revelation 19:14; and be accompanied by angels as well.

    Psalm 40:3 shows how many shall see and fear us being lifted up from the miry clay (verses 1-2). The provoking of the Jews to jealousy ( Romans 11:14) perhaps will occur when the times of the Gentiles are full ( Romans 11:25). In any event the time of Jacob's trouble is specifically for the week of testing for seven years ( Jeremiah 30:7; Daniel 9:26-27) which is also known as Daniel's 70th week.

    Let us assume for a moment that the Rapture IS going to happen before the end of this year for instance. How many are ready for His coming? How many have their garments unspotted and unwrinkled ( Eph. 5:27). I have mentioned before that whether people believe the Rapture is Pretribulation or some other later date; it is the fruit of our lives that is most important. A theoretical concept won't keep those away who are true servants of the Master; but I guarantee those who are espousing a PreTrib Rapture but whose lives are not according to His will will by and large be shocked in many cases being left behind. Whether all these people never believed inthe first place or the Rapture is a reward issue; surely a great multitude will be saved but die as martyrs in the Tribulation ( Rev. 7:9). That is the purpose for the Tribulation for God's children; along with gathering the unregenerate for destruction.


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