Thank you for your reply of yesterday.I highlighted six points of your post to comment them,as follow:
1st point:
What will happen from now on in the middle east and around the world as a whole, it is written and prophesied by the Word of GOD.Remember: 1The.5:2-3:->2 For yourselves know perfectly that the Day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them,as travail upon a woman with child ( Revelation 12:1-5 will LITERALLY be fulfilled);and they(Israel-the Jews) shall not escape.(EXCEPT the sealed 144k-12K of each tribe- Revelation 7:1-8 and 14:1-5). And also the LITERAL fulfillment of 2The.2:1-13, mainly verses 11-12:-->11 And for this cause GOD shall send them STRONG DELUSION,that they should believe a lie:(These are lost).12 That they all might be damned who believed not the Truth,but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
2nd point:
Yes,Israel will loose support, remember that GOD is in control of History,nothing random happens.In the first moment Israel have received all backing of their allies,but they will loose a lot of support,as you said.And when this becomes apparent ARE NOT the enemies of Israel that will try to take them over, as you think, no, it is not,when Israel loose the support,then will manifest their false messiah as was prophesied by my Lord JESUS( John 5:43-47),and then begins the LITERAL fullfilment of 2Thessalonians 2:8-12 combined with Revelation 13:11-18, and 13:2 combined with Luke 21:24 and Revelation 11:2,and Daniel 2:40-45 and 12:8-12. GET READY
3rd point:
GOD will not intervene to save the physical nation of Israel, quite the opposite, GOD will work according His Word described in the 2nd point above, among many other prophecies against the rebel Israel.
Only the 144K sealed of Israel will be saved.The others are lost, for ever. Revelation 14:18-20 combined with Isaiah 5:1-7.Take a look.
Amen, a little here, a little there, people become numb and blind to what is happening not able to discern what is evil, Isaiah 5:20. The leaven in the dough is almost ready to bake.
God bless and hold on to Him, tough roads make for tough feet that can carry you to the end of the road.
I am referring to the scriptures that warn those who were saved in the faith that intentionally choose, they knowingly live a sinful lifestyle. They call what is wrong right and sin is ok. They justify and condone sin, much of what we see today, people who were saved but now say sin is okay, I will not list things I'm sure you see it too, what used to be condemned is now ok and accepted, Isaiah 5:20. After we are justified if we do not abide in Jesus if we do not live a life of repentance and obedience, we will be outside of the grace of God.
When Jesus died on the cross, He paid for every sin that the human race will ever commit, from Adam's first sin until the last sin that will be committed. Our sins before we were born again were forgiven, 2 Peter 1:9. Our sins are not forgiven before we commit them, now or in the future. We all will sin but we do not become unsaved. If we confess, He is faithful and just to forgive us and cleanse us.
Our life we live is We will be forgiven, not we have been forgiven that is why we should not ignore the Spirit's loving work. Hey, don't do that, and if we slip up, we repent for our disobedience. To me that is a life of repentance and obedience, not works for salvation it is the evidence of our faith. A person can stop doing and lose, walk away, or forfeit, their gift of salvation.
1 Timothy 4:1 Some shall depart from the faith, these are Christians, and you have to be a part of it to depart from it. The process of salvation will not be complete until the return of Jesus and we are resurrected and glorified in our immortal bodies.
Thank you, brother, for this discussion may we grow in faith and understanding.
Thanks David0921. I'm sorry that I did not address the Scriptures you gave earlier as my comment would have been too long.
So to Revelation 13:8: "the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world". I understand that the Lamb of God was to be the Sacrifice for mankind's sins, preordained/predestined even before the worlds were framed together. This verse's central point is that Jesus was brought forth as God's Lamb purely for the purpose of sacrificial death in demonstration of God's Love. Those who now under the Blood (OT & NT saints) are written in that Book of Life, otherwise referred to as the Lamb's Book of Life.
Mark 4:33,34 & Psalm 78:2: "parables". I understand that you equate the mention of 'parable' in these references as having the same meaning. That is not always the case. The parables that Jesus spoke were simple stories people could understand & relate to, but they pointed to the intended picture of the nature of God's Kingdom (which they could not comprehend).
The OT also had accounts given in a similar parable style (as in 2 Samuel 12:1-4; Isaiah 5:1-7; & others). But Psalm 78:2 you quoted (& in others), the Psalmist is not sharing just a story with a spiritual meaning, but some of the history of Israel which he hoped would stir the hearts & minds of his readers to learn from. So there is a difference in the meaning of 'parable', even as the Hebrew word, 'mashal' suggests, & Psalm 78:2 makes no suggestion to Jesus' use of such parables. To Page 2.
WHAT IS THE ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION spoken of by Daniel
Matthew 24:15 Therefore when YOU SEE the abomination of desolation; spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the HOLY PLACE (whosoever readeth, let him understand).
You are the HOLY PLACE, the temple of GOD.
Christ was talking to those around him, so this APPLIED to them, as well as us, it was AT HAND, near to be reality.
Daniel 12:11 From the time the daily sacrifice (of animals) shall be TAKEN AWAY, and the abomination that maketh desolate SET UP, there shall be one thousand three hundred and thirty five days.
What is this 1,335 days? It's the changing of the COVENANTS, Christ coming as sinful flesh, and defeating
death; LIFE by Spirit, not blood.
Before the resurrection; LIFE was in the BLOOD, after the resurrecting, LIFE was from the Spirit.
Matthew 23:38 Behold your HOUSE is left unto you DESOLATE.
Man is THE HOUSE, now desolate without INHABITANT, it died on the cross.
Revelation 18:19 .....for in ONE HOUR (MAN, sinful fleshes death on the cross) is she made DESOLATE.
Revelation 17:17 ...and SHALL MAKE HER DESOLATE AND NAKED ..
Psalms 69:25 Let their habitation (house) be DESOLATE; and NONE dwell in their tents.
Isaiah 5:9 ...of a truth many houses shall be desolate ....
Are you DESOLATE; or has the Spirit of LIFE COME TO YOU?
Romans 8:2 For the LAW of the SPIRIT OF LIFE in Christ Jesus, has made us FREE from the LAW of sin and death.
Hebrews 3:6 But Christ as a son over HIS OWN HOUSE, whose house you are ...
You died on the cross; and become DESOLATE, no LIFE, you were raised a body, a new creation, life no longer of the blood; but OF THE LIFE OF CHRIST, by the Spirit of our Father.
Colossians 1:27 ...this mystery .....Christ in you ....
1 Corinthians 4:5 speaks volume to us since saints understand the mysteries revealed to the faithful and Romans 1:6 & Romans 8:28. For saints know Isaiah 5:20. We are where we are today. God is so great to allow us to do things in life in our own free will where in the end The Glory belongs to God. God allowed me to have worked with great scientists in America with great heart. I do not need to understand and question everything at the spare of the moment. I just know the paths God lead me in was not to question authorities in the land. God has the heavenly plans and those are what I am and every saint must be very excited about. When you walk in the Spirit of God, you are like in a trance. Next thing you know someone tells you on earth job well done. Not to boast but again and again to Glorify God because He helped you to do job well done. I can control only me and hopefully have a strong influence with my family and friends and anybody that touches my life to follow God as I walk the walk and talk the talk. Even 1 Timothy 5:4 saints take it to heart. All is good with God James 1:17 and all are Your's 1 Corinthians 3:21-23. I know It is easy said and done here on earth. We all have afflictions and to some unbearable 2 Corinthians 6:4. I thank God for the blood of Jesus Christ for that power is in everyone who put his trust, faith and believe in that He will never leaves you. Psalms 91 memorize!
The Spirit speaks to you 1 Peter 3:13, 3 John 1:11. Be in Spirit so you can 1 Thessalonians 5:21 and 1 Thessalonians 5:15. Philippians 2:13 and Ephesians 1:9. Saints, Ephesians 4:29
There are more heavenly things I can share but I like to inspire you with this testimony Colossians 1:27. Let us all grow in true Charity 1 Corinthians 13:4-8, the bond of perfectness Colossians 3:14. In conclusion 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18. Happy Sunday with the Lord Jesus Christ. Grace and peace to ALL.
Revelation 6:5-8 The famine; pestilence; and Death and Hell.
The concept of judgment with the sword; famine and pestilence is clear from Jeremiah 14:12; 27:13 and 42:17; Ezekiel 5:12; 7:15 and 14:21. There are two of these three judgments together in portions of Leviticus and Deuteronomy and certainly other places as well. What is unique here is the pale horse signifying death and the "beasts of the earth". This has been defined as a possible veiled reference to viruses or bacteria; or perhaps literally animals attacking people. What we see in this pale green horse is the power behind all this; men being accelerated to hell (as Isaiah 5:14 states hell has enlarged herself). Matthew 24 also discusses wars and famines and verse 9 gets into the 5th seal of persecution of saints.
In looking at the Restrainer ( 2 Thess. 2:6-7) we also can look at the fact that once removed; not only will wickedness spread at accelerated pace; but also judgments and the rate the lost are being sent to hell. Perhaps the Tribulation believers will be pretty much exempt from these plagues as it seems martyrdom is the most common form of death. There is no specific mention until the trumpet judgments of the 144,000 and possibly others being protected from certain judgments. These verses seem to show by and large lost people are judged this way even BEFORE the mark of the beast is instituted. It is God who ultimately determines the course of pestilence as well as war; and clearly no efforts of man will curb this judgment. Obviously; starvation will not only come from the wars; but by the droughts and other natural disasters unleashed; again mentioned as a particular signs and wonders action the 2 Prophets engage in as "often as they will." ( Rev. 11:6). Again; there appears to be some lag time for these prophets to appear; and perhaps end their ministry just after the midpoint of the 7 years. It is unclear if a delay occurs between the Rapture and first seal as well.
Luke 16:19-26. The only passage that Jesus Himself talks about where a person goes after he dies. There is Heaven and Hell. I pray all will be saved. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4; Romans 3:25; 1 John 2:2; 1 John 4:10.
Luke 23:43
Acts 1:25; John 17:12 Judas Iscariot is the son of perdition. He went to his own place. Revelation 17:8
Isaiah 5:14
Romans 16:25-27
John 3:16 I pray many will be saved. Keep the Faith, trust only and believe in the blood of Jesus Christ. Nobody can save themselves. We give glory to God for He gave us a free gift, a gift of Grace, the grace of God that is available to all.
Welcome to the discussion, I think I may have seen some posts from you, possibly.
I think I agree with your statement about the Babylonian captivity because of: Jeremiah 34:8-22, There's also: Jeremiah 22:3,4,5,17, Ezekiel 22:7,29,
Daniel prophetic dreams & explanations, I try to line up with other scripture when I can.
However when you say "America" I have learned many people outside of USA, more often of the "America" Continents, will reference themselves as American, especially when immigrating into USA, likewise other Continental countries call them American, USA often called The States; I've learned in recent years. Being this is a globally active website I try to clarify USA. If you're speaking only of USA, I would like to comment to that. I feel it unfair to group all U.S. into that assessment. However many Psalms 62:10, treasonous, tyrannical leaders within industry, Ezekiel 46:18, banking, loans, education, political, etc Isaiah 5:7-8,, definitely fit into that. Quite possibly we, most of us, fall into the category of the oppressed more than the oppressors = that GOD will deliver, protect & bring justice: 2Peter 2, Psalms 37, Psalms 12:5, Ecclesiastes 5:8, Isaiah 54:15-17,
Hopefully these last few scriptures are encouraging
Praying For The Blessing on This Nation - 1 year ago
Amos 4:7
And also I have withholden the rain from you, when there were yet three months to the harvest: and I caused it to rain upon one city, and caused it not to rain upon another city: one piece was rained upon, and the piece whereupon it rained NOT WITHERED.
Isaiah 5:6
And I will lay it waste: it shall not be pruned, nor digged; but there shall come up briers and thorns: I will also command the clouds that they rain no rain upon it.
Job 38:34
Canst thou lift up thy voice to the clouds, that abundance of waters may cover thee? [Read whole chapter]
Psalms 105:32
He gave them hail for rain, and flaming fire in their land.
Proverbs 25:23
The north wind driveth away rain: so does an angry countenance a backbiting tongue.
Job 24:19
Drought and heat consume the snow waters: so does the grave, those which have sinned.
Job 37:6
For he saith to the snow, Be thou on the earth; likewise to the small rain, and to the great rain of his strength.
Isaiah 55:10
For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but water the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:
Proverbs 30:4
Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is HIS name, and what is his SON'S name, if thou canst tell?
2 Chronicles 7:14
IF MY PEOPLE, which are called by my name, SHALL HUMBLE themselves, and pray, and seek MY FACE (not my hand), and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
NOTE: our nation is in severe drought.
One rogue lightning storm can set dry forests on fire. Pray every day for refreshing to come again.
No rain, no harvests, less food, even higher food prices at the store.
Thanks for letting me know this, and I was surprised and perplexed to see my post deleted. No mention of it to me from moderator(s) just deleted my post.
Like you, I have noticed many more posts of others deleted as of late. As you know we live in a ever increasing "Cancel Culture" society, so I'm not surprised we may be getting spillover of this mentality here on this site.
I'm reminded daily that we are truly progressing to the end times, and this verse brings it home to me.
Isaiah 5:20
"Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"
Today, Satan and his workers control of almost every aspect of current life, even good and evil are twisted to mean exactly the opposite of what they traditionally have been understood to mean.
Centuries of proven traditional Christian thinking and beliefs, have been manipulated, and progressively turned upside down, and replaced with "feel good Theology" and misguided doctrine.
There are so many Christians today "living worldly lives" and putting their faith in "the modern church doctrine" such as Rapture, OSAS, and Grace plus Faith and nothing else, and other unorthodox beliefs that are in total conflict with the traditional Christian doctrine as applied over many centuries, including from the very beginning of The Church.
Influences That Change Us Physically__Emotionally - In Reply - 1 year ago
[There are 549 scriptures on strong drink, meaning fermented.]
Isaiah 24:9
They shall not drink wine with a song; strong drink shall be bitter to them that drink it.
Isaiah 5:22
Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink:
Isaiah 28:7
But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment.
Judges 13:7
But he said unto me, Behold, thou shalt conceive, and bear a son; and now drink no wine nor strong drink,
Proverbs 20:1
Wine is a mocker, strong drink is RAGING; and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.
Isaiah 5:11
Woe unto them that rise up early in the morning, that they may follow strong drink; that continue until night, till wine inflame them!
Isaiah 56:12
Come ye, say they, I will fetch wine, and we will fill ourselves with strong drink; and to morrow shall be as this day, and much more abundant.
Proverbs Chapter 23
29 Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes? (tears)
30 They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine.
31 Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright.
32 At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder.
Hell: the Hebrew word sheol, a place of no perception were the dead go, the grave.
Deuteronomy 32:22 For a fire is kindled in my anger .....
Is this fire literal, started with a match, of the fire of the Lord.
Luke 12:49 And I have come to send fire on the earth; and what will I (be), if it (the fire) already be kindled?
Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.
Luke 12:50 And I have a baptism (fire), to be baptised with, and how am I straitened till it BE ACCOMPLISHED.
Matthew 3:11 ...he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and fire.
1 Corinthians 3:15 .....but he himself shall be save, as yet by fire.
Psalms 86:13 For great is thy (the Father's) mercy toward me (Christ): and thou (the Father) shall deliver my (Christ's) soul (body) from the lowest hell (sheol, the grave).
Isaiah 5:14 Therefore hell (sheol, the grave) hath enlarged herself, and open her mouth without measure ....
Mark 9:43
I have never seen a Christian that believed these verses, if they are literal, otherwise they would have cut off their hands and feet to keep from going to hell.
It's an analogy.
You believe in a literal heaven and a literal hell.
Hebrews 12:27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the REMOVING of those (literal and physical) things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things (SPIRIT) which cannot be shaken remain.
Deut. 32:22 - For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.
Psalm 9:17 - For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.
Psalm 86:13 - For great is thy mercy toward me: and thou hast delivered my soul from the lowest hell.
Isaiah 5:14 - Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.
Mark 9 -
43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
I believe in a literal heaven and a literal hell, based on the Word of Him Who can not lie! Glory to God!
Again, grace to you ELB! Have a good weekend ahead!
Hi Wilfred. The one that immediately comes to mind is actually in Romans 1:24,25. Though, if you're thinking Isaiah, then possibly Isaiah 5:20 & also 2 Thessalonians 2:10,11; but these do not comply exactly to what you're seeking. Maybe others can find another verse.
Alex, this will be my last reply on the subject as I can perceive that you seem very rooted in your belief despite not sharing any scripture to support it. 1 Corinthians 3:16 refutes the claim that satan is inside everyone.
Lots of assumptions were made in the last reply and this time it included a strawman argument: "You being a Christian should know this." I hope this assumption is only an honest mistake and not intended to be manipulative. Your words appear to keep conflating sin with satan. Curse of Adam is a curse and isn't the same as satan being inside a person. Sin isn't the same as satan being inside a person. No where in the Bible does it say satan is in everyone. Christians have the holy spirit within, not satan, as 1 Corinthians 3:16 says.
Here's another verse that refutes it: Matthew 7:18. Someone with the holy spirit dwelling doesn't also have satan dwelling.
Satan probably wants people to believe he is in them though. I can see that playing into his hand and he is the father of all lies. Luke 6:45. Isaiah 5:20. God bless.
You bring up a great question. You ask: Assuming that we live at the very end of this world, what do you think, which modern nation/country looks like that kingdom?
Currently, I believe the country referred in your scripture is the US! It has been seen by most people in the world, as the strongest nation militarily, for many years. Recently, this mind set has begun to change, with many in favor of Russia or China as the possible new superpower. Russia is showing that it is really "NOT" a superpower as evidenced by their current failings in Ukraine, this is very revealing to the world, how weak they really are. Currently, that only leaves China now, as the only possible competitor with the US. The US has the proven record over many years of fighting modern warfare, as the strongest in that arena. Can this pivot to China, that is a high unknown. Russia has failed, China may be learning something from Russia's enormous mistake.
I also believe, the verse's that you quote in Daniel speak to the current weakening within the US. (And also shows the "falling away" of the entire world.) I view Christian's as "the iron"; the "clay" is everyone else - non believers. For some time now, the weak clay (non believers) has been mixing in with the iron, and weakening the strength of the US from within.
Isaiah 5:20
"Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"
As far as being close to the end times, know one knows but the Father, per Jesus. Looking all around, we seem to certainly getting closer. Isaiah below, speaks directly to what is currently happening all around us today!
Isaiah 5:20
"Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"
In the past I've used that analogy of the puzzle pieces. The Gospel paints a picture starting from Genesis.
The problem often comes when one have a picture in mind and try to fit pieces of the puzzles together that don't belong so they have to reshape the surrounding pieces to there liking, usually by spritualizing all the pieces/scripture, or they take one piece of a puzzle/scripture that represents their picture and try to fit it in a 1000 piece puzzle that it doesn't belong to, so they reshape the 1000 pieces by spritualizing.
Here's an example.
Who's the writer referring to here?
"Therefore my people" are gone into captivity, because they have no knowledge: and their honourable men are famished, and their multitude dried up with thirst.
Isaiah 5:13.
I've heard it taught that this was all of creation. ( A piece of puzzle that don't even fit the chapter or anywhere else in the 66 books. )
But if they would let the scripture say what it is saying you would find the answer throughout the chapter, especially verse 7.
"For the vineyard of the LORD of hosts is the house of Israel, and the men of Judah his pleasant plant: and he looked for judgment, but behold oppression; for righteousness, but behold a cry"
Isaiah 5:7.
Here's just a few of many other puzzle pieces.
Exodus 3:10.
Exodus 5:1.
Exodus 8:23.
Leviticus 26:12.
1 Samuel 2:28-29.
1 Kings 6:12-13.
Isaiah 1:3.
Isaiah 10:24.
Isaiah 14:25.
Jeremiah 1:16.
Jeremiah 2:11.
Ezekiel 11:20.
Ect...
There's hundreds that reference Isaiah 5:13. to Israel!!
And Hosea 2:23 suggests God's not done with them. Also Romans 11:1.
God is in the generation of the righteous. Psalms 14:5.
We become his people by seeking him, not everyone will do this.
Zachariah gives a distinction between between the heathen nations and God's people. Zachariah 8:7.
Another distinction.
Mathew 7:21-23. You can't be his people and he not know you.
The tree of KNOWLEDGE of good and evil (opposites).
The word Of God is BUILT AROUND PARABLES, tree, or trees, is signified (represents something other than what it is in the physical).
Christ is a Lamb, TREE OF LIFE ETC.
The New Testament parables teach that we are the garden of God (Eden). Isaiah 5:7Ezekiel 31:8
The TREE of KNOWLEDGE of good and evil exist in the midst of the garden (CHRIST is this tree, as he is also the tree of Life) In the midst of the garden.
Colossians 1:27 ..this mystery ...CHRIST IN YOU ..
We have only knowledge of evil, until Christ (the Holy Ghost) releases, or causes, us to have the mind of Christ (then we sprout and eventually become a tree, also. Isaiah 6:13Ezekiel 47:7Revelation 22:1-2
There is ONLY ONE SPIRIT, but the KNOWLEDGE of that ONE SPIRIT contains both good and evil.
Genesis 3:22 ....the man has BECOME LIKE ONE OF US (the man has become like God) to know good and evil....
Before man ate (the words of God), which is the TREE of KNOWLEDGE (Christ), he was the Child of SATAN (no knowledge).
You are BORN AGAIN by THE WORD'S OF GOD.
1 Peter 1:23 BEING BORN AGAIN ....by the WORD'S OF GOD ...
Now Satan (DARKNESS)(lies, deception, falsehoods) has been DESTROYED and LIGHT SHINES FORTH.
Isaiah 45:7 I FORM THE LIGHT, AND CAUSE DARKNESS: I make peace, and create evil ..
Isaiah 9:2 The people that waked in DARKNESS, have seen a GREAT LIGHT ...
WHO IS SATAN?
1 Corinthians 2:6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are PERFECT (born of truth), yet not the WISDOM OF THIS WORLD, nor of THE PRINCES OF THIS WORLD (children of Satan living in lies, deception and falsehoods, children of death and the grave).
1 Corinthians 2:8 Which none of the PRINCES of this world knew, for had they known it, they would not have crucified the LORD OF GLORY.
Matthew 12:38 But if I (our God is a consuming FIRE) cast out devils (lies, deception, falsehoods) ...then the KINGDOM IS COME
Giannis, I don't know for sure your beliefs, whether man can go to Hell.
People look at scriptures in light of their beliefs, most often what they have been taught from childhood.
Those teaching most often were inspired by man's teachings. These teachings are ingrained and VERY HARD TO OVERCOME.
Mosses and the Prophets is all about the KINGDOM OF GOD.
When you understand Mosses and the Prophets, the New Testament will align with Mosses and the Prophets.
The OLD teaches ALL CREATION, at some point (in the coming ages) will be reconciled to God.
The Old teaches God does things at an appointed time, because the WORDS were spoken before the foundation of the worlds and are being fulfilled in that order.
The Old is a shadow of the NEW, that GOD CHOOSES certain ones as vessels of mercy and certain ones as vessels of dishonour.
Those CHOSEN in this age will become Ministering spirits: those not CHOSEN, will lay in the grave UNTIL the RESURRECTION OF JUDGEMENT.
When God raises those in the graves back to their flesh, Christ and his ministering spirits will JUDGE THEM and bring them to TRUTH.
Isaiah 5:13 Therefore my people (his creation) have gone into captivity, because they have no KNOWLEDGE .....
God is solving this problem of NO KNOWLEDGE by giving his creation the MIND OF CHRIST; but in his appointed time, to fulfil the WORDS SPOKEN.
Isaiah 11:9 ...for the earth SHALL BE FULL OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD .....
Romans 8:20 For creation was MADE SUBJECT TO VANITY, not willingly .....
Romans 8:19 For the earnest expectation OF CREATION WAITETH (God's appointed time) for the manifestation of the SONS OF GOD.
Romans 8:21 For CREATION ITSELF shall be delivered from corruption (the grave) INTO THE GLORIOUS LIBERTY OF THE CHILDREN OF GOD.
1 Timothy 4:10 Therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the SAVIOUR OF ALL MEN (even those that are saved in the age of judgement), SPECIALLY THOSE WHO (are caused) to BELIEVE.
"Woe unto them that rise up early in the morning, that they may follow strong drink; that continue until night, till wine inflame them!"
There are many alcoholics in the church today. When I first got saved I recall a man saying we should drink alcohol socially because Jesus changed water to wine at the wedding feast. However, if you read the Greek...that wine Jesus transformed was unfermented (contained no alcohol). There are those which believe the A.A.'s philosophies will help and yet they state for 2, 20, or more years that they're still alcoholic in pledge. The only cure is in Jesus Christ and to seek after His great Salvation. Understand, I too suffered from alcoholism more than once in my life. It's ugly because it will allow us to become open targets for Satan and a shame to our families as was the case with Noah ( Gen 9:21-25).
We need to be vigilant and garnered with the full armor of God. But under substance or intoxication...we deteriorate that protection by giving Satan a doorway to enter. Whereas the Bible called us:
1 Peter 5:8
"Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:"
The Bible does not say it is sinful to drink alcohol, but it does say that drunkenness is sinful. See Isaiah 5:11, Proverbs 20:1. Ephesians 5:18 tells us not to be drunk with wine, but to be filled with the Holy Spirit.
2 Corinthians 5:11 and Romans 13:13 and Galatians 5:21 all list drunkenness or drunkard as sinful.
Some talk about obeying Jesus as being "bad" and disobeying is "good." Those opposites sound awfully familiar and it definitely doesn't come from God.
Isaiah 5:20.
More than ever we must be on guard and have the armor of God on to protect against false teachings. Satan is working overtime to try to deceive people, even Christians. Matthew 10:16
In society we're seeing a lot of evil called good, and good called evil. Criminals are being rewarded in our justice system, for example. People who loot, assault others, commit crimes for a 'cause' are generally let go with no punishment, while people who try to defend themselves against evil are now prosecuted. Invaders are even paid by certain hidden programs to invade their own country in order to accomplish a certain ideological objective. Money is being stolen from citizens to pay for these ideological partisan programs through government mass printing money to devalue everyone's currency. As if people weren't already financially struggling through recent events, now the government is stealing from innocent people.
It occurred to me that the Bible has predicted this.
Isaiah 5:20
And I found some other verses explaining what we're currently experiencing in society.
2 Timothy 4:3 - this explains the rampant propaganda in the media today. Many peddling lies aren't even as ashamed to be caught doing it anymore and believe the end justifies the means. It turns out their end is not truth, but their religious political objective. To many it is their political ideology is their religion and is their false god they worship.
2 Peter 2:1 - false teachers. In the last 12 months I've heard more false teachings than ever before. Huge attacks on Christianity coming from all angles, even deceived Christians. Amazingly distorted views of God, the Bible, sin, morality, and all kinds of things that are very creative and almost clever in how distorted it is. It turns out there's much pressure to conform to the world's version of morality and some seek to bend God's morals in order to fit the world's morals rather than the other way around, despite Romans 12:2. The Bible and God's morals haven't changed, only some people do.
2 Timothy 3:1-5 - warns about end times.
Folks, I believe we are entering the end times. The time to get right with God is running out. May God's blessings be on everyone here.
Brother Dan, the throne of God is a LITERAL PHYSICAL place, CHRIST IN YOU. As Christ is the throne of his Father, because the Father indwells Christ, Christ indwells you, making you the THRONE of the Father, Son and you.
Revelation 3:21 To him that overcometh, I will grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
Isaiah 66:1 Thus saith the Lord, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool:
Revelation 21:1 And I saw a NEW HEAVEN..... the NEW dwelling place and the NEW throne of God..CHRIST IN YOU
Isaiah 66:1 ........where is the THE HOUSE ye built unto me
Hebrews 3:6 ...But Christ as a son over his own house, whose HOUSE WE ARE
Isaiah 66:1 .......and where is my place of REST.....The Father and His Son Jesus Christ and YOU are at REST TOGETHER in the NEW heaven, the NEW temple made without hands, the NEW place of worship ( John 4:19-22).
Cease from your works as God has ceased from his works, the WORKS were FINISHED at the cross.
The only LABOUR left is to bring man TO KNOWLEDGE
Isaiah 5:13 Therefore my people go into captivity, because they have no KNOWLEDGE: and their honourable men are famished, and their multitudes dried up with thirst.
No True Christ follower should ever celebrate old years night. The true meaning of Halloween has no negative connotation behind it. If you look up the root word on etymology online, the word Hallow (a verb) means to make holy, to consecrate, and the noun version means holy person, Saint. Ween means to hope for, expect, and or believe. Halloween together means to be set apart ( consecrated) for God's service and to highly esteem one another in the Lord by building one another up in the faith, and hope and believe one day Jesus Christ will return one day soon to gather up His chosen people, the Body of Christ.
old year's night (all lower case on purpose) is the night for all witches. A lot of people around the world do not celebrate the true meaning of Halloween; instead, there are those who celebrate witches, wizards, frankensteins, vampires, chuckie, and so forth. Isaiah 5:20 states, "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"
2 Corinthians 6:14
"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?"
2 Corinthians 6:15
"And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?"
2 Corinthians 6:16
"And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people."
2 Corinthians 6:17
"Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,"
Greetings in Christ JESUS
Thank you for your reply of yesterday.I highlighted six points of your post to comment them,as follow:
1st point:
What will happen from now on in the middle east and around the world as a whole, it is written and prophesied by the Word of GOD.Remember: 1The.5:2-3:->2 For yourselves know perfectly that the Day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. 3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them,as travail upon a woman with child ( Revelation 12:1-5 will LITERALLY be fulfilled);and they(Israel-the Jews) shall not escape.(EXCEPT the sealed 144k-12K of each tribe- Revelation 7:1-8 and 14:1-5). And also the LITERAL fulfillment of 2The.2:1-13, mainly verses 11-12:-->11 And for this cause GOD shall send them STRONG DELUSION,that they should believe a lie:(These are lost).12 That they all might be damned who believed not the Truth,but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
2nd point:
Yes,Israel will loose support, remember that GOD is in control of History,nothing random happens.In the first moment Israel have received all backing of their allies,but they will loose a lot of support,as you said.And when this becomes apparent ARE NOT the enemies of Israel that will try to take them over, as you think, no, it is not,when Israel loose the support,then will manifest their false messiah as was prophesied by my Lord JESUS( John 5:43-47),and then begins the LITERAL fullfilment of 2Thessalonians 2:8-12 combined with Revelation 13:11-18, and 13:2 combined with Luke 21:24 and Revelation 11:2,and Daniel 2:40-45 and 12:8-12. GET READY
3rd point:
GOD will not intervene to save the physical nation of Israel, quite the opposite, GOD will work according His Word described in the 2nd point above, among many other prophecies against the rebel Israel.
Only the 144K sealed of Israel will be saved.The others are lost, for ever. Revelation 14:18-20 combined with Isaiah 5:1-7.Take a look.
continues in the next post
Amen, a little here, a little there, people become numb and blind to what is happening not able to discern what is evil, Isaiah 5:20. The leaven in the dough is almost ready to bake.
God bless and hold on to Him, tough roads make for tough feet that can carry you to the end of the road.
RLW
Part 5
I am referring to the scriptures that warn those who were saved in the faith that intentionally choose, they knowingly live a sinful lifestyle. They call what is wrong right and sin is ok. They justify and condone sin, much of what we see today, people who were saved but now say sin is okay, I will not list things I'm sure you see it too, what used to be condemned is now ok and accepted, Isaiah 5:20. After we are justified if we do not abide in Jesus if we do not live a life of repentance and obedience, we will be outside of the grace of God.
When Jesus died on the cross, He paid for every sin that the human race will ever commit, from Adam's first sin until the last sin that will be committed. Our sins before we were born again were forgiven, 2 Peter 1:9. Our sins are not forgiven before we commit them, now or in the future. We all will sin but we do not become unsaved. If we confess, He is faithful and just to forgive us and cleanse us.
Our life we live is We will be forgiven, not we have been forgiven that is why we should not ignore the Spirit's loving work. Hey, don't do that, and if we slip up, we repent for our disobedience. To me that is a life of repentance and obedience, not works for salvation it is the evidence of our faith. A person can stop doing and lose, walk away, or forfeit, their gift of salvation.
1 Timothy 4:1 Some shall depart from the faith, these are Christians, and you have to be a part of it to depart from it. The process of salvation will not be complete until the return of Jesus and we are resurrected and glorified in our immortal bodies.
Thank you, brother, for this discussion may we grow in faith and understanding.
God bless,
RLW
Thanks David0921. I'm sorry that I did not address the Scriptures you gave earlier as my comment would have been too long.
So to Revelation 13:8: "the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world". I understand that the Lamb of God was to be the Sacrifice for mankind's sins, preordained/predestined even before the worlds were framed together. This verse's central point is that Jesus was brought forth as God's Lamb purely for the purpose of sacrificial death in demonstration of God's Love. Those who now under the Blood (OT & NT saints) are written in that Book of Life, otherwise referred to as the Lamb's Book of Life.
Mark 4:33,34 & Psalm 78:2: "parables". I understand that you equate the mention of 'parable' in these references as having the same meaning. That is not always the case. The parables that Jesus spoke were simple stories people could understand & relate to, but they pointed to the intended picture of the nature of God's Kingdom (which they could not comprehend).
The OT also had accounts given in a similar parable style (as in 2 Samuel 12:1-4; Isaiah 5:1-7; & others). But Psalm 78:2 you quoted (& in others), the Psalmist is not sharing just a story with a spiritual meaning, but some of the history of Israel which he hoped would stir the hearts & minds of his readers to learn from. So there is a difference in the meaning of 'parable', even as the Hebrew word, 'mashal' suggests, & Psalm 78:2 makes no suggestion to Jesus' use of such parables. To Page 2.
Matthew 24:15 Therefore when YOU SEE the abomination of desolation; spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the HOLY PLACE (whosoever readeth, let him understand).
You are the HOLY PLACE, the temple of GOD.
Christ was talking to those around him, so this APPLIED to them, as well as us, it was AT HAND, near to be reality.
Daniel 12:11 From the time the daily sacrifice (of animals) shall be TAKEN AWAY, and the abomination that maketh desolate SET UP, there shall be one thousand three hundred and thirty five days.
What is this 1,335 days? It's the changing of the COVENANTS, Christ coming as sinful flesh, and defeating
death; LIFE by Spirit, not blood.
Before the resurrection; LIFE was in the BLOOD, after the resurrecting, LIFE was from the Spirit.
Matthew 23:38 Behold your HOUSE is left unto you DESOLATE.
Man is THE HOUSE, now desolate without INHABITANT, it died on the cross.
Revelation 18:19 .....for in ONE HOUR (MAN, sinful fleshes death on the cross) is she made DESOLATE.
Revelation 17:17 ...and SHALL MAKE HER DESOLATE AND NAKED ..
Psalms 69:25 Let their habitation (house) be DESOLATE; and NONE dwell in their tents.
Isaiah 5:9 ...of a truth many houses shall be desolate ....
Are you DESOLATE; or has the Spirit of LIFE COME TO YOU?
Romans 8:2 For the LAW of the SPIRIT OF LIFE in Christ Jesus, has made us FREE from the LAW of sin and death.
Hebrews 3:6 But Christ as a son over HIS OWN HOUSE, whose house you are ...
You died on the cross; and become DESOLATE, no LIFE, you were raised a body, a new creation, life no longer of the blood; but OF THE LIFE OF CHRIST, by the Spirit of our Father.
Colossians 1:27 ...this mystery .....Christ in you ....
God Bless YOU!
1 Corinthians 4:5 speaks volume to us since saints understand the mysteries revealed to the faithful and Romans 1:6 & Romans 8:28. For saints know Isaiah 5:20. We are where we are today. God is so great to allow us to do things in life in our own free will where in the end The Glory belongs to God. God allowed me to have worked with great scientists in America with great heart. I do not need to understand and question everything at the spare of the moment. I just know the paths God lead me in was not to question authorities in the land. God has the heavenly plans and those are what I am and every saint must be very excited about. When you walk in the Spirit of God, you are like in a trance. Next thing you know someone tells you on earth job well done. Not to boast but again and again to Glorify God because He helped you to do job well done. I can control only me and hopefully have a strong influence with my family and friends and anybody that touches my life to follow God as I walk the walk and talk the talk. Even 1 Timothy 5:4 saints take it to heart. All is good with God James 1:17 and all are Your's 1 Corinthians 3:21-23. I know It is easy said and done here on earth. We all have afflictions and to some unbearable 2 Corinthians 6:4. I thank God for the blood of Jesus Christ for that power is in everyone who put his trust, faith and believe in that He will never leaves you. Psalms 91 memorize!
The Spirit speaks to you 1 Peter 3:13, 3 John 1:11. Be in Spirit so you can 1 Thessalonians 5:21 and 1 Thessalonians 5:15. Philippians 2:13 and Ephesians 1:9. Saints, Ephesians 4:29
There are more heavenly things I can share but I like to inspire you with this testimony Colossians 1:27. Let us all grow in true Charity 1 Corinthians 13:4-8, the bond of perfectness Colossians 3:14. In conclusion 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18. Happy Sunday with the Lord Jesus Christ. Grace and peace to ALL.
The concept of judgment with the sword; famine and pestilence is clear from Jeremiah 14:12; 27:13 and 42:17; Ezekiel 5:12; 7:15 and 14:21. There are two of these three judgments together in portions of Leviticus and Deuteronomy and certainly other places as well. What is unique here is the pale horse signifying death and the "beasts of the earth". This has been defined as a possible veiled reference to viruses or bacteria; or perhaps literally animals attacking people. What we see in this pale green horse is the power behind all this; men being accelerated to hell (as Isaiah 5:14 states hell has enlarged herself). Matthew 24 also discusses wars and famines and verse 9 gets into the 5th seal of persecution of saints.
In looking at the Restrainer ( 2 Thess. 2:6-7) we also can look at the fact that once removed; not only will wickedness spread at accelerated pace; but also judgments and the rate the lost are being sent to hell. Perhaps the Tribulation believers will be pretty much exempt from these plagues as it seems martyrdom is the most common form of death. There is no specific mention until the trumpet judgments of the 144,000 and possibly others being protected from certain judgments. These verses seem to show by and large lost people are judged this way even BEFORE the mark of the beast is instituted. It is God who ultimately determines the course of pestilence as well as war; and clearly no efforts of man will curb this judgment. Obviously; starvation will not only come from the wars; but by the droughts and other natural disasters unleashed; again mentioned as a particular signs and wonders action the 2 Prophets engage in as "often as they will." ( Rev. 11:6). Again; there appears to be some lag time for these prophets to appear; and perhaps end their ministry just after the midpoint of the 7 years. It is unclear if a delay occurs between the Rapture and first seal as well.
23) Proverbs 23:32 - Alcoholic drinks bite like a serpent, sting like an adder.
24) Proverbs 23:33 - Alcohol causes the drinker to have strange and adulterous thoughts, produces willfulness, and prevents reformation.
25) Proverbs 23:34 - Alcohol makes the drinker unstable
26) Proverbs 23:35 - Alcohol makes the drinker insensitive to pain so he does not perceive it as a warning. Alcohol is habit forming.
27) Proverb 31:4-5 - Kings, Princes, and others who rule and judge must not drink alcohol. Alcohol perverts good judgment.
28) Proverbs 31:6-7 - Strong drink could be given to those about to perish or those in pain. Better anesthetics are available today.
29) Ecclesiastes 2:3 - The king tried everything, including intoxicating drink, to see if it satisfied. It did not. ( Ecclesiastes 12:8)
30) Ecclesiastes 10:17 - A land is blessed when its leaders do not drink.
31) Isaiah 5:11-12 - Woe to those who get up early to drink and stay up late at night to get drunk.
32) Isaiah 5:22 - Woe to "champion" drinkers and "experts" at mixing drinks.
33) Isaiah 19:14 - Drunken men stagger in their vomit.
34) Isaiah 22:12-13 - The Israelites choose to drink; their future looks hopeless to them.
35) Isaiah 24:9 - Drinkers cannot escape the consequences when God judges.
36) Isaiah 28:1 - God pronounces woe on the drunkards of Ephraim.
37) Isaiah 28:3 - Proud drunkards shall be trodden down.
38) Isaiah 28:7 - Priests and prophets stagger and reel from beer and wine, err in vision, and stumble in judgment.
39) Isaiah 28:8 - Drinkers' tables are covered with vomit and filth.
40) Isaiah 56:9-12 - Drinkers seek their own gain and expect tomorrow to be just like today.
41) Jeremiah 35:2-14 - The Rechabites drank no grape juice or intoxicating wine and were blessed.
42) Ezekiel 44:21 - Again God instructed the priests not to drink wine.
43) Daniel 1:5-17 - Daniel refused the king's intoxicating wine an
Luke 23:43
Acts 1:25; John 17:12 Judas Iscariot is the son of perdition. He went to his own place. Revelation 17:8
Isaiah 5:14
Romans 16:25-27
John 3:16 I pray many will be saved. Keep the Faith, trust only and believe in the blood of Jesus Christ. Nobody can save themselves. We give glory to God for He gave us a free gift, a gift of Grace, the grace of God that is available to all.
Hope this helps.
Welcome to the discussion, I think I may have seen some posts from you, possibly.
I think I agree with your statement about the Babylonian captivity because of: Jeremiah 34:8-22, There's also: Jeremiah 22:3,4,5,17, Ezekiel 22:7,29,
Daniel prophetic dreams & explanations, I try to line up with other scripture when I can.
However when you say "America" I have learned many people outside of USA, more often of the "America" Continents, will reference themselves as American, especially when immigrating into USA, likewise other Continental countries call them American, USA often called The States; I've learned in recent years. Being this is a globally active website I try to clarify USA. If you're speaking only of USA, I would like to comment to that. I feel it unfair to group all U.S. into that assessment. However many Psalms 62:10, treasonous, tyrannical leaders within industry, Ezekiel 46:18, banking, loans, education, political, etc Isaiah 5:7-8,, definitely fit into that. Quite possibly we, most of us, fall into the category of the oppressed more than the oppressors = that GOD will deliver, protect & bring justice: 2Peter 2, Psalms 37, Psalms 12:5, Ecclesiastes 5:8, Isaiah 54:15-17,
Hopefully these last few scriptures are encouraging
And also I have withholden the rain from you, when there were yet three months to the harvest: and I caused it to rain upon one city, and caused it not to rain upon another city: one piece was rained upon, and the piece whereupon it rained NOT WITHERED.
Isaiah 5:6
And I will lay it waste: it shall not be pruned, nor digged; but there shall come up briers and thorns: I will also command the clouds that they rain no rain upon it.
Job 38:34
Canst thou lift up thy voice to the clouds, that abundance of waters may cover thee? [Read whole chapter]
Psalms 105:32
He gave them hail for rain, and flaming fire in their land.
Proverbs 25:23
The north wind driveth away rain: so does an angry countenance a backbiting tongue.
Job 24:19
Drought and heat consume the snow waters: so does the grave, those which have sinned.
Job 37:6
For he saith to the snow, Be thou on the earth; likewise to the small rain, and to the great rain of his strength.
Isaiah 55:10
For as the rain cometh down, and the snow from heaven, and returneth not thither, but water the earth, and maketh it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower, and bread to the eater:
Proverbs 30:4
Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is HIS name, and what is his SON'S name, if thou canst tell?
2 Chronicles 7:14
IF MY PEOPLE, which are called by my name, SHALL HUMBLE themselves, and pray, and seek MY FACE (not my hand), and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
NOTE: our nation is in severe drought.
One rogue lightning storm can set dry forests on fire. Pray every day for refreshing to come again.
No rain, no harvests, less food, even higher food prices at the store.
Streetpreacher
Thanks for letting me know this, and I was surprised and perplexed to see my post deleted. No mention of it to me from moderator(s) just deleted my post.
Like you, I have noticed many more posts of others deleted as of late. As you know we live in a ever increasing "Cancel Culture" society, so I'm not surprised we may be getting spillover of this mentality here on this site.
I'm reminded daily that we are truly progressing to the end times, and this verse brings it home to me.
Isaiah 5:20
"Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"
Today, Satan and his workers control of almost every aspect of current life, even good and evil are twisted to mean exactly the opposite of what they traditionally have been understood to mean.
Centuries of proven traditional Christian thinking and beliefs, have been manipulated, and progressively turned upside down, and replaced with "feel good Theology" and misguided doctrine.
There are so many Christians today "living worldly lives" and putting their faith in "the modern church doctrine" such as Rapture, OSAS, and Grace plus Faith and nothing else, and other unorthodox beliefs that are in total conflict with the traditional Christian doctrine as applied over many centuries, including from the very beginning of The Church.
Good Bless.
Isaiah 24:9
They shall not drink wine with a song; strong drink shall be bitter to them that drink it.
Isaiah 5:22
Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink:
Isaiah 28:7
But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment.
Judges 13:7
But he said unto me, Behold, thou shalt conceive, and bear a son; and now drink no wine nor strong drink,
Proverbs 20:1
Wine is a mocker, strong drink is RAGING; and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.
Isaiah 5:11
Woe unto them that rise up early in the morning, that they may follow strong drink; that continue until night, till wine inflame them!
Isaiah 56:12
Come ye, say they, I will fetch wine, and we will fill ourselves with strong drink; and to morrow shall be as this day, and much more abundant.
Proverbs Chapter 23
29 Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes? (tears)
30 They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine.
31 Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright.
32 At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder.
33 Thine eyes shall behold strange women, and thine heart shall utter perverse things.
34 Yea, thou shalt be as he that lieth down in the midst of the sea, or as he that lieth upon the top of a mast.
35 They have stricken me, shalt thou say, and I was not sick; they have beaten me, and I felt it not: when shall I awake? I will seek it yet AGAIN.
Life is easier without being under the influence of anything that causes the brain to harden and go dark.
Hell: the Hebrew word sheol, a place of no perception were the dead go, the grave.
Deuteronomy 32:22 For a fire is kindled in my anger .....
Is this fire literal, started with a match, of the fire of the Lord.
Luke 12:49 And I have come to send fire on the earth; and what will I (be), if it (the fire) already be kindled?
Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.
Luke 12:50 And I have a baptism (fire), to be baptised with, and how am I straitened till it BE ACCOMPLISHED.
Matthew 3:11 ...he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and fire.
1 Corinthians 3:15 .....but he himself shall be save, as yet by fire.
Psalms 86:13 For great is thy (the Father's) mercy toward me (Christ): and thou (the Father) shall deliver my (Christ's) soul (body) from the lowest hell (sheol, the grave).
Isaiah 5:14 Therefore hell (sheol, the grave) hath enlarged herself, and open her mouth without measure ....
Mark 9:43
I have never seen a Christian that believed these verses, if they are literal, otherwise they would have cut off their hands and feet to keep from going to hell.
It's an analogy.
You believe in a literal heaven and a literal hell.
Hebrews 12:27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the REMOVING of those (literal and physical) things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things (SPIRIT) which cannot be shaken remain.
God Bless YOU!
Hell:
Deut. 32:22 - For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.
Psalm 9:17 - For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains.
Psalm 86:13 - For great is thy mercy toward me: and thou hast delivered my soul from the lowest hell.
Isaiah 5:14 - Therefore hell hath enlarged herself, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, shall descend into it.
Mark 9 -
43 And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
45 And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched:
46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
47 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire:
48 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
I believe in a literal heaven and a literal hell, based on the Word of Him Who can not lie! Glory to God!
Again, grace to you ELB! Have a good weekend ahead!
Lots of assumptions were made in the last reply and this time it included a strawman argument: "You being a Christian should know this." I hope this assumption is only an honest mistake and not intended to be manipulative. Your words appear to keep conflating sin with satan. Curse of Adam is a curse and isn't the same as satan being inside a person. Sin isn't the same as satan being inside a person. No where in the Bible does it say satan is in everyone. Christians have the holy spirit within, not satan, as 1 Corinthians 3:16 says.
Here's another verse that refutes it: Matthew 7:18. Someone with the holy spirit dwelling doesn't also have satan dwelling.
Satan probably wants people to believe he is in them though. I can see that playing into his hand and he is the father of all lies. Luke 6:45. Isaiah 5:20. God bless.
You bring up a great question. You ask: Assuming that we live at the very end of this world, what do you think, which modern nation/country looks like that kingdom?
Currently, I believe the country referred in your scripture is the US! It has been seen by most people in the world, as the strongest nation militarily, for many years. Recently, this mind set has begun to change, with many in favor of Russia or China as the possible new superpower. Russia is showing that it is really "NOT" a superpower as evidenced by their current failings in Ukraine, this is very revealing to the world, how weak they really are. Currently, that only leaves China now, as the only possible competitor with the US. The US has the proven record over many years of fighting modern warfare, as the strongest in that arena. Can this pivot to China, that is a high unknown. Russia has failed, China may be learning something from Russia's enormous mistake.
I also believe, the verse's that you quote in Daniel speak to the current weakening within the US. (And also shows the "falling away" of the entire world.) I view Christian's as "the iron"; the "clay" is everyone else - non believers. For some time now, the weak clay (non believers) has been mixing in with the iron, and weakening the strength of the US from within.
Isaiah 5:20
"Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"
As far as being close to the end times, know one knows but the Father, per Jesus. Looking all around, we seem to certainly getting closer. Isaiah below, speaks directly to what is currently happening all around us today!
Isaiah 5:20
"Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"
God Bless.
In the past I've used that analogy of the puzzle pieces. The Gospel paints a picture starting from Genesis.
The problem often comes when one have a picture in mind and try to fit pieces of the puzzles together that don't belong so they have to reshape the surrounding pieces to there liking, usually by spritualizing all the pieces/scripture, or they take one piece of a puzzle/scripture that represents their picture and try to fit it in a 1000 piece puzzle that it doesn't belong to, so they reshape the 1000 pieces by spritualizing.
Here's an example.
Who's the writer referring to here?
"Therefore my people" are gone into captivity, because they have no knowledge: and their honourable men are famished, and their multitude dried up with thirst.
Isaiah 5:13.
I've heard it taught that this was all of creation. ( A piece of puzzle that don't even fit the chapter or anywhere else in the 66 books. )
But if they would let the scripture say what it is saying you would find the answer throughout the chapter, especially verse 7.
"For the vineyard of the LORD of hosts is the house of Israel, and the men of Judah his pleasant plant: and he looked for judgment, but behold oppression; for righteousness, but behold a cry"
Isaiah 5:7.
Here's just a few of many other puzzle pieces.
Exodus 3:10.
Exodus 5:1.
Exodus 8:23.
Leviticus 26:12.
1 Samuel 2:28-29.
1 Kings 6:12-13.
Isaiah 1:3.
Isaiah 10:24.
Isaiah 14:25.
Jeremiah 1:16.
Jeremiah 2:11.
Ezekiel 11:20.
Ect...
There's hundreds that reference Isaiah 5:13. to Israel!!
And Hosea 2:23 suggests God's not done with them. Also Romans 11:1.
God is in the generation of the righteous. Psalms 14:5.
We become his people by seeking him, not everyone will do this.
Zachariah gives a distinction between between the heathen nations and God's people. Zachariah 8:7.
Another distinction.
Mathew 7:21-23. You can't be his people and he not know you.
Heresies are built this way.
God bless.
Everything has an OPPOSITE.
The tree of KNOWLEDGE of good and evil (opposites).
The word Of God is BUILT AROUND PARABLES, tree, or trees, is signified (represents something other than what it is in the physical).
Christ is a Lamb, TREE OF LIFE ETC.
The New Testament parables teach that we are the garden of God (Eden). Isaiah 5:7 Ezekiel 31:8
The TREE of KNOWLEDGE of good and evil exist in the midst of the garden (CHRIST is this tree, as he is also the tree of Life) In the midst of the garden.
Colossians 1:27 ..this mystery ...CHRIST IN YOU ..
We have only knowledge of evil, until Christ (the Holy Ghost) releases, or causes, us to have the mind of Christ (then we sprout and eventually become a tree, also. Isaiah 6:13 Ezekiel 47:7 Revelation 22:1-2
There is ONLY ONE SPIRIT, but the KNOWLEDGE of that ONE SPIRIT contains both good and evil.
Genesis 3:22 ....the man has BECOME LIKE ONE OF US (the man has become like God) to know good and evil....
Before man ate (the words of God), which is the TREE of KNOWLEDGE (Christ), he was the Child of SATAN (no knowledge).
You are BORN AGAIN by THE WORD'S OF GOD.
1 Peter 1:23 BEING BORN AGAIN ....by the WORD'S OF GOD ...
Now Satan (DARKNESS)(lies, deception, falsehoods) has been DESTROYED and LIGHT SHINES FORTH.
Isaiah 45:7 I FORM THE LIGHT, AND CAUSE DARKNESS: I make peace, and create evil ..
Isaiah 9:2 The people that waked in DARKNESS, have seen a GREAT LIGHT ...
WHO IS SATAN?
1 Corinthians 2:6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are PERFECT (born of truth), yet not the WISDOM OF THIS WORLD, nor of THE PRINCES OF THIS WORLD (children of Satan living in lies, deception and falsehoods, children of death and the grave).
1 Corinthians 2:8 Which none of the PRINCES of this world knew, for had they known it, they would not have crucified the LORD OF GLORY.
Matthew 12:38 But if I (our God is a consuming FIRE) cast out devils (lies, deception, falsehoods) ...then the KINGDOM IS COME
People look at scriptures in light of their beliefs, most often what they have been taught from childhood.
Those teaching most often were inspired by man's teachings. These teachings are ingrained and VERY HARD TO OVERCOME.
Mosses and the Prophets is all about the KINGDOM OF GOD.
When you understand Mosses and the Prophets, the New Testament will align with Mosses and the Prophets.
The OLD teaches ALL CREATION, at some point (in the coming ages) will be reconciled to God.
The Old teaches God does things at an appointed time, because the WORDS were spoken before the foundation of the worlds and are being fulfilled in that order.
The Old is a shadow of the NEW, that GOD CHOOSES certain ones as vessels of mercy and certain ones as vessels of dishonour.
Those CHOSEN in this age will become Ministering spirits: those not CHOSEN, will lay in the grave UNTIL the RESURRECTION OF JUDGEMENT.
When God raises those in the graves back to their flesh, Christ and his ministering spirits will JUDGE THEM and bring them to TRUTH.
Isaiah 5:13 Therefore my people (his creation) have gone into captivity, because they have no KNOWLEDGE .....
God is solving this problem of NO KNOWLEDGE by giving his creation the MIND OF CHRIST; but in his appointed time, to fulfil the WORDS SPOKEN.
Isaiah 11:9 ...for the earth SHALL BE FULL OF THE KNOWLEDGE OF GOD .....
Romans 8:20 For creation was MADE SUBJECT TO VANITY, not willingly .....
Romans 8:19 For the earnest expectation OF CREATION WAITETH (God's appointed time) for the manifestation of the SONS OF GOD.
Romans 8:21 For CREATION ITSELF shall be delivered from corruption (the grave) INTO THE GLORIOUS LIBERTY OF THE CHILDREN OF GOD.
1 Timothy 4:10 Therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the SAVIOUR OF ALL MEN (even those that are saved in the age of judgement), SPECIALLY THOSE WHO (are caused) to BELIEVE.
Hopefully these are helpful
"Woe unto them that rise up early in the morning, that they may follow strong drink; that continue until night, till wine inflame them!"
There are many alcoholics in the church today. When I first got saved I recall a man saying we should drink alcohol socially because Jesus changed water to wine at the wedding feast. However, if you read the Greek...that wine Jesus transformed was unfermented (contained no alcohol). There are those which believe the A.A.'s philosophies will help and yet they state for 2, 20, or more years that they're still alcoholic in pledge. The only cure is in Jesus Christ and to seek after His great Salvation. Understand, I too suffered from alcoholism more than once in my life. It's ugly because it will allow us to become open targets for Satan and a shame to our families as was the case with Noah ( Gen 9:21-25).
We need to be vigilant and garnered with the full armor of God. But under substance or intoxication...we deteriorate that protection by giving Satan a doorway to enter. Whereas the Bible called us:
1 Peter 5:8
"Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:"
John 1:5 also prophetic of Isaiah 60:2, if crucifixion isn't dark, I don't know what time is. Ephesians 5:11,
Isaiah 5:20, John 12:46,
Isaiah 6:8-10, Mark 4:12, also prophecy, fulfilled
Hopefully these are helpful
The Bible does not say it is sinful to drink alcohol, but it does say that drunkenness is sinful. See Isaiah 5:11, Proverbs 20:1. Ephesians 5:18 tells us not to be drunk with wine, but to be filled with the Holy Spirit.
2 Corinthians 5:11 and Romans 13:13 and Galatians 5:21 all list drunkenness or drunkard as sinful.
1Thessalonians 5:5-10, 1Timothy 3:2,11, Titus 1:8, Titus 2, 1Peter 1:13, 1Peter 4:7, Leviticus 10:9, Leaders, priests, Numbers 6:2-4,
There are a two stories in Genesis that shows negative results.
Deuteronomy 32:33, Proverbs 21:17, Isaiah 5:10-23, Isaiah 28:7,
Proverbs 31:4-7,
Hopefully these are helpful
Some talk about obeying Jesus as being "bad" and disobeying is "good." Those opposites sound awfully familiar and it definitely doesn't come from God.
Isaiah 5:20.
More than ever we must be on guard and have the armor of God on to protect against false teachings. Satan is working overtime to try to deceive people, even Christians. Matthew 10:16
It occurred to me that the Bible has predicted this.
Isaiah 5:20
And I found some other verses explaining what we're currently experiencing in society.
2 Timothy 4:3 - this explains the rampant propaganda in the media today. Many peddling lies aren't even as ashamed to be caught doing it anymore and believe the end justifies the means. It turns out their end is not truth, but their religious political objective. To many it is their political ideology is their religion and is their false god they worship.
2 Peter 2:1 - false teachers. In the last 12 months I've heard more false teachings than ever before. Huge attacks on Christianity coming from all angles, even deceived Christians. Amazingly distorted views of God, the Bible, sin, morality, and all kinds of things that are very creative and almost clever in how distorted it is. It turns out there's much pressure to conform to the world's version of morality and some seek to bend God's morals in order to fit the world's morals rather than the other way around, despite Romans 12:2. The Bible and God's morals haven't changed, only some people do.
2 Timothy 3:1-5 - warns about end times.
Folks, I believe we are entering the end times. The time to get right with God is running out. May God's blessings be on everyone here.
Revelation 3:21 To him that overcometh, I will grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
Isaiah 66:1 Thus saith the Lord, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool:
Revelation 21:1 And I saw a NEW HEAVEN..... the NEW dwelling place and the NEW throne of God..CHRIST IN YOU
Isaiah 66:1 ........where is the THE HOUSE ye built unto me
Hebrews 3:6 ...But Christ as a son over his own house, whose HOUSE WE ARE
Isaiah 66:1 .......and where is my place of REST.....The Father and His Son Jesus Christ and YOU are at REST TOGETHER in the NEW heaven, the NEW temple made without hands, the NEW place of worship ( John 4:19-22).
Cease from your works as God has ceased from his works, the WORKS were FINISHED at the cross.
The only LABOUR left is to bring man TO KNOWLEDGE
Isaiah 5:13 Therefore my people go into captivity, because they have no KNOWLEDGE: and their honourable men are famished, and their multitudes dried up with thirst.
old year's night (all lower case on purpose) is the night for all witches. A lot of people around the world do not celebrate the true meaning of Halloween; instead, there are those who celebrate witches, wizards, frankensteins, vampires, chuckie, and so forth. Isaiah 5:20 states, "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"
2 Corinthians 6:14
"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?"
2 Corinthians 6:15
"And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?"
2 Corinthians 6:16
"And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people."
2 Corinthians 6:17
"Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,"