Thousands of years before you, there was a man called Job, and he essentially asked an even tougher version of the same question; that's essentially what Job chapter 3 through chapter 37 is all about.
When Job had finished asking the same questions you are asking, do you know how the LORD began His answer to Job? "Who is this that darkeneth counsel BY WORDS WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE?"
- Job 38:2
And again, "Shall he that contendeth with the Almighty instruct him? He that reproveth God, let him answer it."
- Job 40:2
Do you know what Job realized after the LORD was done? " . . . Therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not."
- Job 42:3
To your question, there will be no greater than what the Scriptures have given in the book of Job.
Fake gods come from rebellion against GOD ALMIGHTY. Acts 19:26, 2Kings 19:18,
1Timothy 2:5,
The imagination of man; to ignore the obvious all around: that the earth, our very being, molecules that aren't created, only slightly manipulated by man, asks an answer beyond some comprehension.
The question itself seems to derive from rebellion. Isaiah 55:8, Isaiah 29:15,16, Psalms 94:5-15, Psalms 139, Job 38:2-41, Job 40:7-13,
GOD gave some of us very deeply inquisitive minds, to invent witty things, Proverbs 8:12, some build imaginative creations, that in ourselves deep questions of consciousness & core beginnings arise at times. In these gifted minds of power & powerful thinking, faults sometimes into arrogance of belief to define The CREATOR & make a beginning. Because in limited understanding we have beginning & perceivable ending in flesh. Yet in our core perceive there is more in the supernatural, outside the flesh. 1Corinthians 1:27,
We as humans are like gods ourselves we can choose to do mighty evil or good in our days, we can cause other's to cry in distress or rejoice with gladness but in the end we will all answer to GOD ALMIGHTY the maker of heaven & earth. Psalms 82, Leviticus 25:17, Romans 14:12,
It's also amazing that a creator would care so much for what HE has created that HE would still have a plan of redemption even after rebellion: John 3:16
Dinosaurs existed before the flood and to a lesser extent after the flood. The record found in fossils indicates that the present planetary ecosystem is incapable of producing and supporting large bodied reptiles and mammals.
Apparently, before Noah's flood destroyed the antediluvian ecosystem, the earth could produce large bodied long living reptiles that we call dinosaurs (a word which means a fearful or monstrous lizard). The word of God states that not only did all humans, except eight, were destroyed by the flood, but also the earth itself was wrecked ( Genesis 6:13).
The first possible mention of dinosaurs in the Bible is in Job 40. God, speaking directly to the patriarch Job, challenges him regarding a mysterious beast known as the Behemoth.Now behold the behemoth, which I made along with you; he eats grass like an ox; See, now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the muscles of his belly.He moves his tail like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are knit together. His bones are like tubes of bronze; his ribs are like bars of iron. ( Job 40:15 - 18, HBFV, see also verses 19 to 24)
The second possible reference to huge, now extinct dinosaurs is in Job 41. God, again speaking directly to Job, challenges him regarding his ability to catch or tame a creature referred to as Leviathan.Can you draw out the leviathan with a hook, or hold down his tongue with a cord? Can you put a ring into his nose, or pierce his jaw with a gaff hook? . . .Will you play with him as with a bird? Or will you bind him for your maidens? . . . ( Job 41:1 - 2, 5, also see the rest of the chapter).
The third possible reference to these large reptiles is in Genesis 1:21 where it states that God created "great sea creatures." Many Scriptural scholars feel that these references are talking about the hippopotamus, crocodile, whale or other large known animal. Other scholars of a more scientific mind suggest that these verses are actually referencing dinosaurs.
REPEATING QUESTIONS TO OTHERS - In Reply - 2 years ago
A Book by Author Dan Alice,
"A man is born as a child , grows to adulthood , and consequently enters old age , when he deteriorates and reverts to a childish state. (proverb)"
As we become older we may need someone else to make these decisions for us. This is the concept of "once an adult, twice a child." Same as children need parents or guardians, we may age into a period where we must be reliant on a caregiver.
BIBLE examples:
Psalms 62:11
God hath spoken once; twice have I heard this; that power belongeth unto God.
1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man [born again]. I put away childish things.
Job 40:5
Once have I spoken; but I will not answer: yea, twice; but I will proceed no further.
Job 33:14
For God speaketh once, yea twice, yet man perceiveth it not.
mean that God is the bone who makes 'our nation (S) great...oR is it man who by his convictions of doing right and serving the afflicted, and heeding to moral laws within their heart and soul etc.?
You are replying to a comment by "DG"
Responding to your question. please read Job 42:1-7
Job also recognized that he uttered and said what he did not understand.
things to wonderful for him. that "he knew not" or nothing.
he repented about what he said. and God said that job spoke things that is right
or he spoke truth. Job 40:3-5 proves that in grief and in agony and pain he spoke
things he did not understand. again however, he repented about all the things he did
not understand. then Jehovah ( Psalm 83:18) said he spoke truth (by means of repentance and
taking back or correcting what he previously uttered in ignorance)
Genesis 1:20-22 * one translation of the Bible I recently read: instead of "whales" says "Monster/s" , Jerusalem Bible translation says"great serpents", NIV says "great creatures " , Jubilee Bible 2000 translation says "And GOD created the great dragons" several other translations say "great sea creatures". = (Huge water creatures.)
My 1st thought is the " dinosaur" namely "Brachiosaurus" & "Brontosaurus" [quotes- for names today?]
Job 40:15 , Job 40:15-24,
Job 41:1-10 Leviathan
Bel and the Dragon 1:23-28
Genesis 5:24, Jude 1:14, Hebrews 11:5,
Linage to CHRIST Luke 3:37
Opinion : Is Enoch symbolism for Huge in The Faith?
My brother Chris, thank you the astute observations. There is a difference between the fall of the adversary and the final casting out of heaven. The fall, which occurred following Genesis 1:1 and the aftermath of God's judgment, which is found in Genesis 1:2; included the following consequences. Although still allowed access to heaven, the adversary was stripped of all authority and glory; he had been the adorned, anointed cherub that covereth. However, the beauty of his form was transformed into that of a serpent and a dragon; also, he was demoted to the lowly position of tempter ( Gen. 3:1; Matt. 4:3). All movement was restricted by God's "hook in his hose" ( Job 41:2); and any use of power required permission because God put a "double bridle" on him ( Job 41:13-14). Also, he had to regularly report with the regular angels ( Job 1:6; 2:1). This leads to the reason why he was not immediately destroyed.
Christ opened the spiritual matrix and became the firstfruits and prototype of all who inherit the kingdom of heaven. Similarly, God positioned the adversary as the one who opened the matrix, and created hell for him and the angels which are suggested in the plural pronoun "they" in mentioned in Ezekiel 28:16 and are mentioned in Jude 6 ( Matt. 25:41).
The eternal fate of all humankind is either heaven or hell. Water represents people ( Rev. 17:15). Therefore, for the duration of man's chronological week upon the earth following the fall of Adam and Eve, God is using Christ to draw up the Jordan River, which represents those who will inherit the kingdom, into His mouth ( Job 40:23). Conversely, he uses the adversary as the serpent who eats dust ( Gen. 3:14; 1 Pet. 5:8), from which man is made ( Gen. 2:7), and carry them along with him into hell.
These conditions surrounding the fall of the adversary were effective throughout the Old Testament. However, the final casting did not occur until the days of John the Baptist ( Matt. 11:12). See the following post.
As you know, God is now speaking to Job (from Job chapter 38 onwards). God gives Job a whole list of things that He does, to which Job & others cannot have input to - all this to show Job that God is in control, not Job - He knows what He is doing & how He looks at things & at people.
So in Job 39:13, God refers to the peacock & ostrich, who carelessly leave their eggs buried in the earth, ignorant that something can pass by & crush those eggs. God says that He has deprived these animals of 'wisdom' to know or to look ahead as to the other possibilities of the eggs' survival. The bird only knows to lay its eggs & bury them; she gives no further thought about their further protection. Like the proverbial ostrich which buries its head in the sand, believing that no one can see it, since it can't see anyone.
Job was not to be like such animals devoid of understanding (you will need to look for this truth as you read the Book of Job, as it would be too much to write here). Rather Job needed to realize his humanity, his lack of wisdom & need to accept God's actions & dealings with him.
After this great dialogue by the Lord, Job finally realized that his wisdom lay in his being quiet before the Lord ( Job 40:3-5). As James 1:19 says: "let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath".
Leviathan is NOT a Dinosaur, even plain reading and you realize its about a Dragon type Creature. And btw BIBLE mentions Leviathan AND Behemoth. Now go to Revelation and read about the Beast coming out from Water and one coming out of the Earth. (Leviathan Watercreature, Behemoth Earthlycreature). This is deep stuff there, since I don't believe its (only) metaphoric for Satan and false prophet.
I've been tracing Jesus appearances in the old testament, from this Book chapter 38 to 41.
it appears that Job is not talking to Jesus but The Almighty himself 41:1-2.
Yet it leaves me still unsure, seems like the second time the Almighty speaks in the Bible after from Genesis.
He said there s coming a time when I am going to break the high minded, and the proud, and the sinner and the wickedness of this earth. THE BIBLE SAYS THAT JOB PUT HIS HAND ACROSS HIS MOUTH. Some of us need to do that sometimes. Some of us need to stop asking questions and believe what He s done for others He will do for you. Some of us need to wake up and realize what God is really saying here to us, he is in the midst of us. Stop shaking and running every time the Devil attacks you. Your like an elevator going up and down spiritually.
Job 40 and 41 is explained in Rev.12 and 13. The Catholic Church could never explain these passages because they are part of them. Any church that quotes the NIV stay away from. Job 40 and 41 is the the prophesy quoted by Jesus in Luke 10 18 revealed in Rev.12. Job is a type of Jew going through the Tribulation period. 42 chapters of Job there are 42 months in the last part of the tribulation. Job starts out with great riches loses all and at the end receives twice what he had before, just like the Jews will after the Tribulation. No Catholic priest will ever understand that Biblical truths because they are spiritually blind.
JOB is a peerless man with his sight in Gods truths holding on to His Iron Rod he sees the lord with his eyes the Lord chastises him and makes his latter end greater than his beginning chapter 42
the behemoth was not a crocodile or hippo. It was clearly a dinosaur. Clearly, we don't understand all, this was not either due to the details description in the remaining of chapter 40 and the leviathan in chapter 41 was a dragon. Read Daniel 14. Not included in the King James but in the catholic bible. Just a few details to focus in on. The scales, the tail as a tree? Yes the croc has scales, but neither have a tail as large as the Sypris tree.
I believe that i havent yet realized the awesomeness of JESUS.HE tells JOB plainly"I AM GOD(JESUS) and you are man CREATION.I PRAY I GET A DEEPER REVELATION OF THIS FACT.....
Do you know why I think Father told us of these dinosaurs. This was written so we would know that the LORD is God. Where was thou. Going through 38 to chap. 40 I feel and know this is the old Book and God is God. Same as when I read Ezekiel chapter one. God knows everything and He just wants us to know He knows.
God is explaining something to us so we will seek out the truth. It takes time to understand and here God is telling us we have no knowledge of these things. So, we have to think. We have to read the full word and put it all together the way it was and is. If you think 7000 years as the unlearned dothen your learning of the Word of the LORD will never be clear. you then will be without the truth. But if you seek the 3 earth ages you will find the Word all fits together correctly and truth then brings you understanding. Earth beautiful in Isaiah 45:18. Katabole or war satans pride Ezekiel 18. Stold a third of Gods children Revelation 12. Distruction of first earth age Jeremiah 4: 20 & on. Job 38,39,40, things that where and things we can't remember. But we know from Proverbs 8 God created a beautiful home on earth and in Job 38:7 the whole family was with God. The dinosuars were on earth. Tell you something. God has a flying ship spoken of in Ezekiel chapter one. I call it whirlwind because almost everytime the word whirlwind is used it means flying ship.
God is telling Job that these animals the dinosaurs were with him (Job) in the first earth age before the attempted overthrow or katabole by satan. So we had large animals that were made of flesh but they couldn't hurt us in our spiritual bodies. I think at that time we could cross dimensions and visit these large creatures? Don't know but they lived on earth with us. Then when we were replenished and God wash the earth real good there was only bones left behind and wwhat ever God wanted to leave here.
Well God created sea animals and flying creatures on day 5 cattle, and man and beast along with creeping things on day 6... If you believe God's Word you have to believe this means dinosaurs as well. If God could call any animal to the ark then He definitely could call baby dino too.
When Job had finished asking the same questions you are asking, do you know how the LORD began His answer to Job? "Who is this that darkeneth counsel BY WORDS WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE?"
- Job 38:2
And again, "Shall he that contendeth with the Almighty instruct him? He that reproveth God, let him answer it."
- Job 40:2
Do you know what Job realized after the LORD was done? " . . . Therefore have I uttered that I understood not; things too wonderful for me, which I knew not."
- Job 42:3
To your question, there will be no greater than what the Scriptures have given in the book of Job.
I suggest you read the entire book of Job.
Job 41,
Hopefully these are helpful in your search
1Timothy 2:5,
The imagination of man; to ignore the obvious all around: that the earth, our very being, molecules that aren't created, only slightly manipulated by man, asks an answer beyond some comprehension.
The question itself seems to derive from rebellion. Isaiah 55:8, Isaiah 29:15,16, Psalms 94:5-15, Psalms 139, Job 38:2-41, Job 40:7-13,
GOD gave some of us very deeply inquisitive minds, to invent witty things, Proverbs 8:12, some build imaginative creations, that in ourselves deep questions of consciousness & core beginnings arise at times. In these gifted minds of power & powerful thinking, faults sometimes into arrogance of belief to define The CREATOR & make a beginning. Because in limited understanding we have beginning & perceivable ending in flesh. Yet in our core perceive there is more in the supernatural, outside the flesh. 1Corinthians 1:27,
We as humans are like gods ourselves we can choose to do mighty evil or good in our days, we can cause other's to cry in distress or rejoice with gladness but in the end we will all answer to GOD ALMIGHTY the maker of heaven & earth. Psalms 82, Leviticus 25:17, Romans 14:12,
It's also amazing that a creator would care so much for what HE has created that HE would still have a plan of redemption even after rebellion: John 3:16
Psalms 74:13-14,
Psalms 104:24-31,
Job 40:15-24,
Job 41:1-34,
Note: trees; when hidden in trees, I was reminded of trees like the Sequoia in The Red Wood Forest, West Coast USA.
Apparently, before Noah's flood destroyed the antediluvian ecosystem, the earth could produce large bodied long living reptiles that we call dinosaurs (a word which means a fearful or monstrous lizard). The word of God states that not only did all humans, except eight, were destroyed by the flood, but also the earth itself was wrecked ( Genesis 6:13).
The first possible mention of dinosaurs in the Bible is in Job 40. God, speaking directly to the patriarch Job, challenges him regarding a mysterious beast known as the Behemoth.Now behold the behemoth, which I made along with you; he eats grass like an ox; See, now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the muscles of his belly.He moves his tail like a cedar; the sinews of his thighs are knit together. His bones are like tubes of bronze; his ribs are like bars of iron. ( Job 40:15 - 18, HBFV, see also verses 19 to 24)
The second possible reference to huge, now extinct dinosaurs is in Job 41. God, again speaking directly to Job, challenges him regarding his ability to catch or tame a creature referred to as Leviathan.Can you draw out the leviathan with a hook, or hold down his tongue with a cord? Can you put a ring into his nose, or pierce his jaw with a gaff hook? . . .Will you play with him as with a bird? Or will you bind him for your maidens? . . . ( Job 41:1 - 2, 5, also see the rest of the chapter).
The third possible reference to these large reptiles is in Genesis 1:21 where it states that God created "great sea creatures." Many Scriptural scholars feel that these references are talking about the hippopotamus, crocodile, whale or other large known animal. Other scholars of a more scientific mind suggest that these verses are actually referencing dinosaurs.
The literal meaning of th
BelAndTheDragon 1:23-28,
Hopefully these are helpful
"A man is born as a child , grows to adulthood , and consequently enters old age , when he deteriorates and reverts to a childish state. (proverb)"
As we become older we may need someone else to make these decisions for us. This is the concept of "once an adult, twice a child." Same as children need parents or guardians, we may age into a period where we must be reliant on a caregiver.
BIBLE examples:
Psalms 62:11
God hath spoken once; twice have I heard this; that power belongeth unto God.
1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man [born again]. I put away childish things.
Job 40:5
Once have I spoken; but I will not answer: yea, twice; but I will proceed no further.
Job 33:14
For God speaketh once, yea twice, yet man perceiveth it not.
Mishael
Does Job 12:23
mean that God is the bone who makes 'our nation (S) great...oR is it man who by his convictions of doing right and serving the afflicted, and heeding to moral laws within their heart and soul etc.?
You are replying to a comment by "DG"
Responding to your question. please read Job 42:1-7
Job also recognized that he uttered and said what he did not understand.
things to wonderful for him. that "he knew not" or nothing.
he repented about what he said. and God said that job spoke things that is right
or he spoke truth. Job 40:3-5 proves that in grief and in agony and pain he spoke
things he did not understand. again however, he repented about all the things he did
not understand. then Jehovah ( Psalm 83:18) said he spoke truth (by means of repentance and
taking back or correcting what he previously uttered in ignorance)
Thanks
2 Timothy 3:16,17
John 3:16,17
2 Esdras 6:47-52 your reference
Genesis 1:20-22 * one translation of the Bible I recently read: instead of "whales" says "Monster/s" , Jerusalem Bible translation says"great serpents", NIV says "great creatures " , Jubilee Bible 2000 translation says "And GOD created the great dragons" several other translations say "great sea creatures". = (Huge water creatures.)
My 1st thought is the " dinosaur" namely "Brachiosaurus" & "Brontosaurus" [quotes- for names today?]
Job 40:15 , Job 40:15-24,
Job 41:1-10 Leviathan
Bel and the Dragon 1:23-28
Genesis 5:24, Jude 1:14, Hebrews 11:5,
Linage to CHRIST Luke 3:37
Opinion : Is Enoch symbolism for Huge in The Faith?
Christ opened the spiritual matrix and became the firstfruits and prototype of all who inherit the kingdom of heaven. Similarly, God positioned the adversary as the one who opened the matrix, and created hell for him and the angels which are suggested in the plural pronoun "they" in mentioned in Ezekiel 28:16 and are mentioned in Jude 6 ( Matt. 25:41).
The eternal fate of all humankind is either heaven or hell. Water represents people ( Rev. 17:15). Therefore, for the duration of man's chronological week upon the earth following the fall of Adam and Eve, God is using Christ to draw up the Jordan River, which represents those who will inherit the kingdom, into His mouth ( Job 40:23). Conversely, he uses the adversary as the serpent who eats dust ( Gen. 3:14; 1 Pet. 5:8), from which man is made ( Gen. 2:7), and carry them along with him into hell.
These conditions surrounding the fall of the adversary were effective throughout the Old Testament. However, the final casting did not occur until the days of John the Baptist ( Matt. 11:12). See the following post.
So in Job 39:13, God refers to the peacock & ostrich, who carelessly leave their eggs buried in the earth, ignorant that something can pass by & crush those eggs. God says that He has deprived these animals of 'wisdom' to know or to look ahead as to the other possibilities of the eggs' survival. The bird only knows to lay its eggs & bury them; she gives no further thought about their further protection. Like the proverbial ostrich which buries its head in the sand, believing that no one can see it, since it can't see anyone.
Job was not to be like such animals devoid of understanding (you will need to look for this truth as you read the Book of Job, as it would be too much to write here). Rather Job needed to realize his humanity, his lack of wisdom & need to accept God's actions & dealings with him.
After this great dialogue by the Lord, Job finally realized that his wisdom lay in his being quiet before the Lord ( Job 40:3-5). As James 1:19 says: "let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath".
Would you explain it please
Thanks
it appears that Job is not talking to Jesus but The Almighty himself 41:1-2.
Yet it leaves me still unsure, seems like the second time the Almighty speaks in the Bible after from Genesis.
You insist on teaching your beliefs which are biblical! Please get real about God�s Word and leave the interpreting to God!