Let's speak of the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, the Word is GOD Himself, understand? I quoted to you and to ALL what my Lord JESUS said in His PRAYER to the Father. JESUS said to GOD the Father: John 17:6 - " I have MANIFESTED thy NAME unto the MEN which thou GAVEST me out of the WORLD: thine they were, and thou gavest them me;and they -the MEN- have kept thy Word.
In fact JESUS MANIFESTED the NAME of GOD to the MEN. Your answer is an announcement, a declaration, or even clearly leaves a CONFESSION that you DO NOT KNOW the NAME of GOD the Father, NAME MANIFESTED unto the MEN by my Lord JESUS.
So, in a defensive position because you don't have an answer within the Scriptures, you come in unpolished manner to tell me that I "cannot be more in the know of Name than the Son". What you said is fake. What matters and prevails is what my Lord JESUS said: Matthew 11:27 - "No MAN knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any MAN the Father, save the Son,and he to whomsoever the Son will REVEAL Him. As you and ALL can see, it is by REVELATION,not by speculations, presumptions, and so on.
Your answer is an announcement, a declaration, or even clearly leaves a CONFESSION that you DO NOT KNOW the NAME of GOD the Father, NAME MANIFESTED by my Lord JESUS unto the MEN.
Furthermore, you cited the esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist NAMES of GOD (this is a blaspheme), such as JEHOVAH, YAHWEH, YHWH, ADONAI, EL SHADAI, HaSHEM as if were the NAMES OF"GOD",but there are more esoteric and kabbalistic names of"GOD" besides these, according the devilish esoteric and kabbalistic and spiritist Judaism,and you believe in this satanic doctrine and testify and spread their idolatries and sorceries here.
My Lord JESUS said: "No MAN knoweth the Son,but the Father; neither knoweth any MAN the Father,save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will REVEAL Him. As you and ALL can see, it is by REVELATION only, exclusively.
You've started a new thread, so I trust you've seen the answer I gave you in the other thread. And my answer was: "I can only think of how Jesus spoke about the One Who sent Him. Of course, Jesus called Him, God (Theos); Father (Pater; Abba - more intimate); Lord (Kurios)."
You've repeated here what you've written previously. So waiting in suspense, I would like to know 'what Name did Jesus manifest of God to men?' I also asked whether you believe that in Heaven right now, the risen Christ sits at the right Hand of God, or whether Jesus is alone in Heaven & God within Him (as I seemed to have understood one of your comments). Thank you.
Chris, my belief regarding JESUS sat at the right hand of the Father, it is not by your very poor testimony of Him, but by the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD Himself, GOD the Father, understand? Hebrews 1:1-3 among other biblical references.Take a look. The testimony of the Word -the Word is GOD - it is greater than yours, understand? Or isn't it?
You called God "(Theos); Father (Patter;Abba-more intimate); Lord(Kurios), well, by the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, you are saying nothing, your testimony about GOD in your post is irrelevant, insignificant, it was not by the Spirit of Christ, and it was not by the Spirit of Truth and John 16:12-15 confirm / endorse what I am just saying. Unfortunately you keep snaking in devilish doctrines and tares sowed by the Wicked one. --> By the way, "It is GOD that sitteth upon the circle of the Earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers- Isaiah 40:22. Indeed, this revelation which GOD did give to Isaiah explains or suggests why there is not Life in whole Universe except in the Earth, I mean out of the Earth there is not in whole Universe the variety of Life that there is in the Earth, because GOD is sat upon the circle of the Earth.
To finish, you have cited in your posts the NAME of GOD as being the esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist JEHOVAH, YAHWEH, YHWH, ADONAI, EL SHADAI, HaSHEM, so I quoted John 17:6 where my Lord JESUS in His prayer said to the Father that He had MANIFESTED His NAME to the MEN that He, GOD the Father, had given to Him, So I asked UNTO you: What is the GOD's NAME my Lord JESUS MANIFESTED to the men?
Now, now, from your knowledge you said here the names mentioned above are NAMES of GOD, so I wanted to know which of these NAMES of GOD my Lord JESUS would have manifested to the men? The question is mine, not yours, I'm waiting you response.
Oseas. Your question: "from your knowledge you said here the names mentioned above are NAMES of GOD, so I wanted to know which of these NAMES of GOD my Lord JESUS would have manifested to the men?"
My answer is as given earlier. When Jesus spoke of God, or His Father, or the Lord, those are the Names Jesus used when speaking with His disciples or the people. I have still not been able to discern a straight answer from you regarding God's Name. The closest I see from your response, is that Jesus manifested God's Name as the "Word". I agree, that Jesus was God's Word in the Flesh which clearly implies that both the Word & the Spirit are within the Godhead & sent out from God, but did Jesus ever proclaim/manifest God's Name to the people as "The Word" (Logos)? No. He brought out God's Word & taught it, but never said that the Word was God's Name. The Apostle John did declare in John 1:1, that "the Word was God", but Jesus never proclaimed it as God's Name. If anything be said about the Word, it is Jesus' Name, the Word of God. And if the Name of God (Theos) is Logos, then it must also be Hagion Pneuma (Holy Spirit). Here then is the One God, Theos.
So, I assume that you have no answer to give me, whether Jesus is seated at the right Hand of the Father, or there is only Jesus present in Heaven. Your answer should be: 1. Yes, Jesus is seated at the Father's right Hand, or 2. No, only Jesus is there. Is this too difficult to answer, rather than going into a tirade that the evidences of God's Name in the OT are kabbalistic, devilish names?
You say "JESUS used the NAMES you have listed here in your prior posts speaking with His disciples or the people", but it is not true, it's fake of course. Actually you are stealthy preaching a false interpretation, your preaching is not different such it occurred in ancient event- Genesis 3:1-,a stumbling block for them which unfortunatelly may come to "eat" from you false testimony- Matthew 15:19.
The Word of GOD says not what you are saying. Now, now, the Word is GOD Himself, and He has only one NAME, ONLY AND ONLY ONE NAME,and His only NAME is not any of those which you have surreptitiously listed here as NAMES of GOD. Your thinking is from a human perspective, a stumblingblock- Genesis 3:1-, not from GOD's perspective- Matthew 16:23.
DIALOGUE BETWENN THE JEWS AND JESUS-Jo.8-41-45KJV
41 - The Jews said unto JESUS: We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
42-44 -> 42 -JESUS said to the Jews:- If GOD were your Father ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God;neither came I of myself, but he sent me. (If??? hum!)
43 - JESUS said to the Jews: Why do ye not understand my speech? 44- JESUS openly and emphaticaly said to the Jews: Ye are of your father the Devil.
Every names you have listed are NAMES of the God of the Jews, NAMES od their father (as they said he is- John 8:41). But JESUS claried unto them their father is the Devil, whose NAMES you listed before:
By the way, in Re.12:9, JESUS said:And the great Dragon(the red Dragon)was (will be)cast out, that old serpent,called the Devil,and Satan,which deceiveth the whole world:he was cast out into the earth,and his messengers were cast out with him.
By the way,"red Dragon" is the new name of the Devil in this current time of Apocalypse.
Isa.9:6-For unto us a child is born, unto us a Son is given: and the government shall be upon His shoulder: and His NAME shall be called THE MIGHTY GOD -JESUS-, Wonderful, Counsellor, The everlasting FATHER, The Prince of Peace.
So it appears Oseas, that you prefer to lean to your own extra-biblical beliefs rather than the pure unadulterated Word of God. I use God's Word, the Bible that we have in our hands, & in spite of that, you claim that those words are devilish. So who's in greater danger? For this reason, you continue to avoid my questions & incorrectly exegete from the Word of God, simply because your true colors will be revealed. So, in your warning to me, I would suggest that you seriously look at your claims against the Word of God, Jesus' Own Words, and not mine or anyone else's.
Jesus' accusation against the Jews & their father being the devil ( John 8:40-44) was because they refused to believe His Words & had set about to kill Him - nothing at all to do with the Names Jesus used and gave of God to the people (i.e. Names: God, Father, Lord). The Names of God in the Bible are true & valid Names (whether in Hebrew, Aramaic, or Greek), that God Himself revealed ( Exodus 6:3, Exodus 3:15), which those of the OT referred to, that Christ proclaimed, & spoke of & believed upon by His followers. Your agenda in this matter is dubious & malicious against the Holy Name of God & His Christ, when you say that the glorious Name of Yahweh, which was given to Israel, is of the devil.
And it's pointless referring to Isaiah 9:6 (if you're suggesting that Jesus (or the Word) is the Name of God - a matter you avoid clarifying), when many Scriptures throughout the NT show to us that the God of Heaven is still seated on the Throne, to Whom Jesus prayed, the people were pointed to, & to Whom Jesus ascended now seated at His right Hand. Please study the Scriptures fully, rightly dividing the Word, believing the Word, then we might have a true foundation for discussion.
It seems you have the Bible only in your hands,but have not the Word of GOD in heart.This explain why you believe in esoteric,and kabbalistic,and spiritists,AND FICTITIOUS names of God, which Satan stealthy introduced in the OT, in Torah,Jewish Scriptures-Tanack,as if were names of the true GOD,but are fictitious NAMES from your heart are JEHOVAH,YAHWEH,YHWH,ADONAI,EL SHADAI,HaSHEM.Terrible.
The words that proceede from your heart is from a human perspective,a stumblingblock-Genesis3:1-not from GOD's perspective- Matthew 16:23.Your testimony of GOD's Word signifies nothing and is good for nothing.In fact,what I reply here is because of the readers, not you.What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD,the Word is GOD Himself- John 1:1 combined with 1John 5:7,and around 2000 years ago He,even GOD Himself, was made flesh and introduced Himself among men by the NAME of JESUS- Matthew 1:21-understand?Isaiah had prophesied, saying:"The Lord Himself shall give you a sign;Behold,a VIRGIN shall conceive,and bear a SON,and shall call His name Immanuel-Is.7:14-(it means: GOD with us).
These Truth torment your esoteric,and kabbalistic, and spiritist spirit,GOD CURSED the Devil,the tree of good and evil,the figtree. JESUS,In His Ministry,said to the Devil:Man shall not live by bread alone, but by EVERY Word that proceedeth out of the MOUTH of GOD- Matthew 4:4. The Word is GOD, the Word is GOD Himself, and the Word of the MOUTH of GOD is LITERALLY written in 66 books, KING JAMES VERSION is an edition of the book of the Lord, it is called Bible.
Oh no, my Lord JESUS never accused anyone, as you said, also my Lord JESUS NEVER USED the NAMES of Satan you have listed here, these are more false testimonies of you of JESUS's Person, it's the spirit of you is acusing JESUS,he is the Accuser, he has blinded your eyes,your own devilish words leave clear you know not my Lord JESUS.
If the supposed"glorious name Yahweh,as you say"is in your heart, it means the Devil is in your heart.
It appears Oseas, that you are not prepared to answer my questions but feel moved to continue with your repetitive rant. I guess you have your agenda. So consider this discussion ended, from me anyway, unless you wish to provide me those answers, instead of beliefs from anti-scriptural sources. Thank you for your time.
I work with the Word of GOD, and I have already answered your questions several times.
I work with the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD Himself, don't you understand? Two thousand years ago the Word Himself was made flesh by the NAME of JESUS, yes, by the NAME of JESUS, as He promised to His people through the prophets- Hebrews 1:1-3, as I have said in answering your questions. But you are masked by a pretense, and you pretend have not seen, your lack of interest in the Word of GOD reveals who really dominates your life.
I reapeat. I work with the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD Himself, don't you understand? Why do you not understand my speech? It's because you are unable to hear the true and pure Word of Truth. Your lack of interest in the Word of GOD reveals who dominates you your life.
I repeat. I work with the Word of GOD, and I have already answered your questions several times, but not according your evil and disguised spirit, for the Word of GOD -the Word is GOD Himself- recommends saying: Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like unto him-Prov.26:4. And the Word states that "when the fool speaks pleasantly, believe him not / don't trust him: for there are SEVEN abominations in his heart. And my Lord JESUS clearly revealed, saying: Luke 11:23-24 and 26:
23 He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathereth not with me scattereth.
24 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out.
26 Then goeth he, and taketh to him SEVEN other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.
Furthemore, my Lord JESUS left very clear, saying: John 12:47-48:
If any man hear my words, and believe not, I Judge him not: for I came not to Judge the world, but to save the world. But already hath one that Judgeth him:...
Let's speak of the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, the Word is GOD Himself, understand? I quoted to you and to ALL what my Lord JESUS said in His PRAYER to the Father. JESUS said to GOD the Father: John 17:6 - " I have MANIFESTED thy NAME unto the MEN which thou GAVEST me out of the WORLD: thine they were, and thou gavest them me;and they -the MEN- have kept thy Word.
In fact JESUS MANIFESTED the NAME of GOD to the MEN. Your answer is an announcement, a declaration, or even clearly leaves a CONFESSION that you DO NOT KNOW the NAME of GOD the Father, NAME MANIFESTED unto the MEN by my Lord JESUS.
So, in a defensive position because you don't have an answer within the Scriptures, you come in unpolished manner to tell me that I "cannot be more in the know of Name than the Son". What you said is fake. What matters and prevails is what my Lord JESUS said: Matthew 11:27 - "No MAN knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any MAN the Father, save the Son,and he to whomsoever the Son will REVEAL Him. As you and ALL can see, it is by REVELATION,not by speculations, presumptions, and so on.
Your answer is an announcement, a declaration, or even clearly leaves a CONFESSION that you DO NOT KNOW the NAME of GOD the Father, NAME MANIFESTED by my Lord JESUS unto the MEN.
Furthermore, you cited the esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist NAMES of GOD (this is a blaspheme), such as JEHOVAH, YAHWEH, YHWH, ADONAI, EL SHADAI, HaSHEM as if were the NAMES OF"GOD",but there are more esoteric and kabbalistic names of"GOD" besides these, according the devilish esoteric and kabbalistic and spiritist Judaism,and you believe in this satanic doctrine and testify and spread their idolatries and sorceries here.
My Lord JESUS said: "No MAN knoweth the Son,but the Father; neither knoweth any MAN the Father,save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will REVEAL Him. As you and ALL can see, it is by REVELATION only, exclusively.
Wake up, it's midnight
You've repeated here what you've written previously. So waiting in suspense, I would like to know 'what Name did Jesus manifest of God to men?' I also asked whether you believe that in Heaven right now, the risen Christ sits at the right Hand of God, or whether Jesus is alone in Heaven & God within Him (as I seemed to have understood one of your comments). Thank you.
You called God "(Theos); Father (Patter;Abba-more intimate); Lord(Kurios), well, by the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, you are saying nothing, your testimony about GOD in your post is irrelevant, insignificant, it was not by the Spirit of Christ, and it was not by the Spirit of Truth and John 16:12-15 confirm / endorse what I am just saying. Unfortunately you keep snaking in devilish doctrines and tares sowed by the Wicked one. --> By the way, "It is GOD that sitteth upon the circle of the Earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers- Isaiah 40:22. Indeed, this revelation which GOD did give to Isaiah explains or suggests why there is not Life in whole Universe except in the Earth, I mean out of the Earth there is not in whole Universe the variety of Life that there is in the Earth, because GOD is sat upon the circle of the Earth.
To finish, you have cited in your posts the NAME of GOD as being the esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist JEHOVAH, YAHWEH, YHWH, ADONAI, EL SHADAI, HaSHEM, so I quoted John 17:6 where my Lord JESUS in His prayer said to the Father that He had MANIFESTED His NAME to the MEN that He, GOD the Father, had given to Him, So I asked UNTO you: What is the GOD's NAME my Lord JESUS MANIFESTED to the men?
Now, now, from your knowledge you said here the names mentioned above are NAMES of GOD, so I wanted to know which of these NAMES of GOD my Lord JESUS would have manifested to the men? The question is mine, not yours, I'm waiting you response.
Be careful or else get ready
My answer is as given earlier. When Jesus spoke of God, or His Father, or the Lord, those are the Names Jesus used when speaking with His disciples or the people. I have still not been able to discern a straight answer from you regarding God's Name. The closest I see from your response, is that Jesus manifested God's Name as the "Word". I agree, that Jesus was God's Word in the Flesh which clearly implies that both the Word & the Spirit are within the Godhead & sent out from God, but did Jesus ever proclaim/manifest God's Name to the people as "The Word" (Logos)? No. He brought out God's Word & taught it, but never said that the Word was God's Name. The Apostle John did declare in John 1:1, that "the Word was God", but Jesus never proclaimed it as God's Name. If anything be said about the Word, it is Jesus' Name, the Word of God. And if the Name of God (Theos) is Logos, then it must also be Hagion Pneuma (Holy Spirit). Here then is the One God, Theos.
So, I assume that you have no answer to give me, whether Jesus is seated at the right Hand of the Father, or there is only Jesus present in Heaven. Your answer should be: 1. Yes, Jesus is seated at the Father's right Hand, or 2. No, only Jesus is there. Is this too difficult to answer, rather than going into a tirade that the evidences of God's Name in the OT are kabbalistic, devilish names?
You say "JESUS used the NAMES you have listed here in your prior posts speaking with His disciples or the people", but it is not true, it's fake of course. Actually you are stealthy preaching a false interpretation, your preaching is not different such it occurred in ancient event- Genesis 3:1-,a stumbling block for them which unfortunatelly may come to "eat" from you false testimony- Matthew 15:19.
The Word of GOD says not what you are saying. Now, now, the Word is GOD Himself, and He has only one NAME, ONLY AND ONLY ONE NAME,and His only NAME is not any of those which you have surreptitiously listed here as NAMES of GOD. Your thinking is from a human perspective, a stumblingblock- Genesis 3:1-, not from GOD's perspective- Matthew 16:23.
DIALOGUE BETWENN THE JEWS AND JESUS-Jo.8-41-45KJV
41 - The Jews said unto JESUS: We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
42-44 -> 42 -JESUS said to the Jews:- If GOD were your Father ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God;neither came I of myself, but he sent me. (If??? hum!)
43 - JESUS said to the Jews: Why do ye not understand my speech? 44- JESUS openly and emphaticaly said to the Jews: Ye are of your father the Devil.
Every names you have listed are NAMES of the God of the Jews, NAMES od their father (as they said he is- John 8:41). But JESUS claried unto them their father is the Devil, whose NAMES you listed before:
By the way, in Re.12:9, JESUS said:And the great Dragon(the red Dragon)was (will be)cast out, that old serpent,called the Devil,and Satan,which deceiveth the whole world:he was cast out into the earth,and his messengers were cast out with him.
By the way,"red Dragon" is the new name of the Devil in this current time of Apocalypse.
Isa.9:6-For unto us a child is born, unto us a Son is given: and the government shall be upon His shoulder: and His NAME shall be called THE MIGHTY GOD -JESUS-, Wonderful, Counsellor, The everlasting FATHER, The Prince of Peace.
Jesus' accusation against the Jews & their father being the devil ( John 8:40-44) was because they refused to believe His Words & had set about to kill Him - nothing at all to do with the Names Jesus used and gave of God to the people (i.e. Names: God, Father, Lord). The Names of God in the Bible are true & valid Names (whether in Hebrew, Aramaic, or Greek), that God Himself revealed ( Exodus 6:3, Exodus 3:15), which those of the OT referred to, that Christ proclaimed, & spoke of & believed upon by His followers. Your agenda in this matter is dubious & malicious against the Holy Name of God & His Christ, when you say that the glorious Name of Yahweh, which was given to Israel, is of the devil.
And it's pointless referring to Isaiah 9:6 (if you're suggesting that Jesus (or the Word) is the Name of God - a matter you avoid clarifying), when many Scriptures throughout the NT show to us that the God of Heaven is still seated on the Throne, to Whom Jesus prayed, the people were pointed to, & to Whom Jesus ascended now seated at His right Hand. Please study the Scriptures fully, rightly dividing the Word, believing the Word, then we might have a true foundation for discussion.
It seems you have the Bible only in your hands,but have not the Word of GOD in heart.This explain why you believe in esoteric,and kabbalistic,and spiritists,AND FICTITIOUS names of God, which Satan stealthy introduced in the OT, in Torah,Jewish Scriptures-Tanack,as if were names of the true GOD,but are fictitious NAMES from your heart are JEHOVAH,YAHWEH,YHWH,ADONAI,EL SHADAI,HaSHEM.Terrible.
The words that proceede from your heart is from a human perspective,a stumblingblock-Genesis3:1-not from GOD's perspective- Matthew 16:23.Your testimony of GOD's Word signifies nothing and is good for nothing.In fact,what I reply here is because of the readers, not you.What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD,the Word is GOD Himself- John 1:1 combined with 1John 5:7,and around 2000 years ago He,even GOD Himself, was made flesh and introduced Himself among men by the NAME of JESUS- Matthew 1:21-understand?Isaiah had prophesied, saying:"The Lord Himself shall give you a sign;Behold,a VIRGIN shall conceive,and bear a SON,and shall call His name Immanuel-Is.7:14-(it means: GOD with us).
These Truth torment your esoteric,and kabbalistic, and spiritist spirit,GOD CURSED the Devil,the tree of good and evil,the figtree. JESUS,In His Ministry,said to the Devil:Man shall not live by bread alone, but by EVERY Word that proceedeth out of the MOUTH of GOD- Matthew 4:4. The Word is GOD, the Word is GOD Himself, and the Word of the MOUTH of GOD is LITERALLY written in 66 books, KING JAMES VERSION is an edition of the book of the Lord, it is called Bible.
Oh no, my Lord JESUS never accused anyone, as you said, also my Lord JESUS NEVER USED the NAMES of Satan you have listed here, these are more false testimonies of you of JESUS's Person, it's the spirit of you is acusing JESUS,he is the Accuser, he has blinded your eyes,your own devilish words leave clear you know not my Lord JESUS.
If the supposed"glorious name Yahweh,as you say"is in your heart, it means the Devil is in your heart.
I work with the Word of GOD, and I have already answered your questions several times.
I work with the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD Himself, don't you understand? Two thousand years ago the Word Himself was made flesh by the NAME of JESUS, yes, by the NAME of JESUS, as He promised to His people through the prophets- Hebrews 1:1-3, as I have said in answering your questions. But you are masked by a pretense, and you pretend have not seen, your lack of interest in the Word of GOD reveals who really dominates your life.
I reapeat. I work with the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD Himself, don't you understand? Why do you not understand my speech? It's because you are unable to hear the true and pure Word of Truth. Your lack of interest in the Word of GOD reveals who dominates you your life.
I repeat. I work with the Word of GOD, and I have already answered your questions several times, but not according your evil and disguised spirit, for the Word of GOD -the Word is GOD Himself- recommends saying: Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you also be like unto him-Prov.26:4. And the Word states that "when the fool speaks pleasantly, believe him not / don't trust him: for there are SEVEN abominations in his heart. And my Lord JESUS clearly revealed, saying: Luke 11:23-24 and 26:
23 He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathereth not with me scattereth.
24 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out.
26 Then goeth he, and taketh to him SEVEN other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.
Furthemore, my Lord JESUS left very clear, saying: John 12:47-48:
If any man hear my words, and believe not, I Judge him not: for I came not to Judge the world, but to save the world. But already hath one that Judgeth him:...
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